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Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman on Canon, Spock Prime and Star Trek XII

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By GustavoLeao / 16:38, 2 February 2010 / Star Trek: Nemesis

BLOCKBUSTER Blog posted an interview with Star Trek writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman and here are excerpts.

BB: The time travel device allowed you to deviate significantly from known Star Trek history/canon. How did you decide how much to turn the dial in terms of changing back-stories and characters?

Bob: We tried to change as little as possible. There had never been an origin story of how these characters came together. So while there was canon established by a single line here or there about how they all met, this story had never been done. So that automatically gave us a degree of freedom. And then whenever we were violating something we knew absolutely had dimension, we knew we had the time travel element to get us through it. But theoretically they could have met the same way in the original universe - Kirk and Spock in the Academy - theoretically many things that happened in the movie could have happened in both continuities. It was just a matter of not changing anything just to reinvent it, but also not being hampered by anything because it had been mentioned once before.

BB: Related to that, Simon Pegg tweeted this the other day: "What blew me away about Alex and Rob's script. New Trek cannot exist without old. Nothing is discounted. Spock Prime validates all. So smart."

Alex: God bless Simon Pegg, is all I can say.

Bob: And God bless Leonard Nimoy, because he's right: that's what allowed us to do what we did. You know, Leonard came out of retirement on that character to do that for Star Trek. So, God bless Leonard Nimoy.

BB: That was obviously the pivotal point of the movie premise. How early in the process did you come up with that, or did JJ Abrams have that vision from the beginning?

Alex: No, not at all. We knew from the word go that we had to have [Nimoy] in the movie, and that if he said no we weren't going to have a movie. So when we presented our take to JJ and [Producer] Damon [Lindelof] about needing Spock, it became a conversation between all of us about how we were going to get to him, because we knew he had said he was never going to play that part again. And we explained why we felt like it was a necessary move; not only at a story level, but also because without Leonard Nimoy telling Trek fans that it was okay to move into this iteration, I think we as fans would have felt a little bit dubious. So we just knew that it was all about him, and JJ got on board immediately.

BB: Finally, we all know there's going to be another movie, and I believe you'll be working on it. What stage is it in right now?

Bob: We're all figuring out the story together. We're in what we call the coffee shop stage, where you go to a coffee shop and you talk about the story.

Alex: Until all the themes land and all the big ideas land, and you then start building the bricks on that.

The full interview, in which they talk more about Star Trek, is here.



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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:51:04 on Feb 03, 2010

I think it is perfectly fine that Kirk and company met under different circumstances in the new timeline. In fact one could easily argue that since the timeline was changed 25 years before the bulk of the movie takes place, the odds that the seven of them STILL ended up serving together is that much more incredible and highly unlikely. So I guess we should be thankfull things weren't more different than they already are. :)

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By: John (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:46:30 on Feb 02, 2010

I don't think the characters in the Prime time line met up like that at all, and if you watch TOS you get a sense of what probably happened. My theory is that Kirk joined Starfleet on his own (remember in The Menagerie he says he only met Pike when he left Enterprise), we also know that he didn't just jump to Captain as stated in Obsession. I suppose it is possible he met Sulu and Uhura at the academy, but doubtful. Spock was serving with Pike at the time Kirk was at the Academy. Now as to Kirk and McCoy, it is entirely possible it did happen simular to what we see in the movie, only difference would be that McCoy comes to the Enterprise in the second year of the 5 year mission (I hold the belief that Where no Man has gone Before takes place well into the first year).


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    By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:44:10 on Feb 03, 2010

    For all we know, McCoy was on some sort of leave during Where No Man...

    Or he could have been a doctor on board but not the chief surgeon.

    As for this movie, they wiped out all history, so that means nothing matters. The biggest issue is Chekov's age.


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    By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 02:00:47 on Feb 03, 2010 | Edit History (1)

    I totally agree with you John. My belief is that, in the prime universe, McCoy joined the Enterprise during the second year of the five year mission, replacing Doctor Mark Piper, who was the ship's doctor for the duration of the first year when the second pilot takes place. I dont think Kirk and McCoy met at the Academy at the prime universe - Kirk's buddy at the academy at the prime universe was Gary Mitchell. And Kirk, when he left the Academy, served as a Lt. on the USS Republic and the USS Farragut before being promoted to captain of the Enterprise. And yes, Kirk only met Pike and Spock in the Prime Universe when he took command of the ship.Thank God for Michael and Denise Okuda's Star Trek Encyclopedia CD-ROM !!!! LOL

    Gustavo

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