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J.J. Abrams Says Star Trek XII Must be the Most Meaningful Adventure for the Crew of the Enterprise, Says Movies and TV Series Can Definitely Co-Exist

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By GustavoLeao / 14:50, 23 October 2009 / Star Trek: Nemesis

MTV posted a new interview with Star Trek director J.J. Abrams and here are few excerpts from the article.

"The second one has an obligation to go deeper and maintain the fun and adventure in the sense of optimism and scale that ['Trek' originator Gene] Roddenberry created," Abrams said. "But I do think it has to evolve and not become some polemic over-the-top, on-the-nose allegory. It needs to be something that is not just about the characters meeting each other and having their first adventure; it needs to be about having their most meaningful one."


These are the wide-ranging concepts that Abrams and writers Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci and Damon Lindelof are starting to explore. "We're literally just beginning discussions about the story and where we want to go," Abrams said. "We have some very broad stroke ideas that are very exciting. We're obviously going to do the best we can in terms of rewarding an audience."


One thing they likely won't do, according to Abrams, is call the sequel "Star Trek 2."


"I think we can't really do that, right?" Abrams laughed. "I don't know what you'd call it. It's a good question. I'm not sure."

"There's been talk about it but none of it has been mine," Abrams revealed about rumnors of new Star Trek TV Series. "Obviously I'm open to anything. The key to doing another TV show is what would the approach be that would be worthy of the audience. If there's a good idea that's fantastic."

"Obviously what you do in a film you couldn't do week to week in a series. The advantage of a series-- when you look at something as good as 'Battlestar Galactica' you see that, despite its great visual effects, there was a level of character and interpersonal drama that never would have taken place had that been a film. [A movie series and a TV series] can definitely co-exist," he said.

"The question is, who runs that show. Whats the vision of it? How does it work?" To MYV's suggestion that the studio would likely approach Abrams before anyone else, he responded in his usual humble manner. "I don't know. It would be nice certainly."

More from Abrams on Star Trek can be found at MTV and MTV Movie Blog

MTV also posted a video interview with J.J. Abrams in which he talks about Star Trek XII here



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By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:40:55 on Oct 24, 2009

With Lost on the way out, I think that a series would be ok--if Abrams does it.

I also would like to see a series with THIS CAST. None of them are so big that they can't be on TV, and I would much rather see a series with this crew. You could do so much more with a Kirk and crew series than you can with movies. It'll never happen--at least the part about this cast doing a Kirk and crew series, but in a perfect world, that's what I'd be happy with.


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    By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:48:03 on Oct 25, 2009

    I think if there is a new Trek series, it will not use Chris Pine and the rest of the movie cast. It will be another crew on another ship and so forth. But, well, I may be completely wrong, it is just my opinion.

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      By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:26:57 on Oct 25, 2009

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      I think if there is a new Trek series, it will not use Chris Pine and the rest of the movie cast ... But, well, I may be completely wrong.

      Nah, you're right.

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    By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:40:24 on Oct 25, 2009

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    None of them are so big that they can't be on TV...

    Not yet anyway. ;)

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So many things... | Report this post to moderator
By: Ralphis (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:10:28 on Oct 24, 2009

There's so many things I'd love to see in a new Trek TV show. And I'll list them... because I'm lame like that.

1) A post-Nemesis series based in the Primeline or Prime Universe or whatever we're callin' it. To tie-in with the movie (Star Trek '09) the pilot would deal directly with the destruction of Romulus. Wherever the show goes from there, I don't know.

2) A show set in the Alternate Timeline, but with a different ship. Maybe deal with the relocation of the Vulcan survivors.

3) I still like my Thrid Universe idea I posted awhile back. Set it post 2387 and incorporate the events of the new movie, but also pick-and-choose events from the Prime Timeline (with minor tweaks). It would be a hybrid timeline, but establish that it's separate from the movie.

4) *My favorite* Set the movie in a timeline where I'm getting laid on a frequent basis. Granted, it has nothing to do with Star Trek, but it's SUCH a good idea.

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    By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:38:56 on Oct 25, 2009

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    A post-Nemesis series based in the Prime Universe. To tie-in with the [new] movie, the pilot would deal directly with the destruction of Romulus.

    Even though I have been adamant in reminding everyone that we will not see the old universe on the big-screen or in it's own TV series ever again, I won't lie -- it would be neat to at least have a TV movie depicting what happened to Picard and company after Nemesis. They never did get their Star Trek VI-type send off. Sadly, I highly doubt even this will ever happen.

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    A show set in the [new] Timeline, but with a different ship. Maybe deal with the relocation of the Vulcan survivors.

    This is the most likely scenario for a new TV series. Set in the new universe on a different ship or somewhere else in the Federation at the time.

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    *My favorite* Set the movie in a timeline where I'm getting laid on a frequent basis. Granted, it has nothing to do with Star Trek, but it's SUCH a good idea.

    I won't argue with that.

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"I don't know what you'd call it." | Report this post to moderator
By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:22:41 on Oct 23, 2009

How about "Star Trek (2012)"?


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    By: VoR (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:42:42 on Oct 24, 2009

    The Dark Knight was a good idea instead of calling it Batman II, so perhaps something along that line of thinking. Everyone will know it's Star Trek, so Star Trek doesn't really need to be in the title.



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    By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:18:11 on Oct 23, 2009

    Putting the year of production in the title is the fastest way of dating a film. (See Galactica 1980). The only times you will see a year in the title is when the film takes place in that year. The sequel will likely follow the format of the TNG films (Star Trek: ______) or may set a president of not having the words "Star Trek" in the title at all, like Dark Knight for example.

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      By: Tupperfan (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:37:25 on Oct 23, 2009

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      (...) or may set a president of not having the words "Star Trek" in the title at all, like Dark Knight for example.

      Then I officially submit my candidature for the job of "President of Not Having the Words Star Trek in the Title at All"!

      I guess I'm setting a precedent by doing this, but I think I'd be the best for the job.

      Thanks everyone for letting me use this tribune and don't forget: Vote Tup!

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TV Series yes... eventually. | Report this post to moderator
By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:20:18 on Oct 23, 2009

As I discussed with someone over on the Shore Leave forum, I feel the powers that be will wait for the franchise to have two to three solid blockbusters under its belt to ensure audience and fan interest warrant the move. If Star Trek XII ends up being our Dark Knight in 2012, look for a series to be develped as early as the Fall of 2013. If not then, then perhaps Fall 2015 or later. This would give them a chance to introduce a minor yet memorable character in one of the films (XII or XIII), that the series could then be based on.

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  • RE: TV Series yes... eventually. | Report this post to moderator
    By: The Magrathean (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:57:47 on Oct 23, 2009 | Edit History (1)

    That "someone" you spoke with was me, and I'm glad to see you've shifted your predictions in light of new information from J.J. Hee hee, but you ought to be gracious enough to admit you shifted your position!

    Just 'cuz I got to rub it in a little, here are the relevant quotes from your earlier posts:

    "You're forgetting that we likely won't see a new series until the first three films (at the very least) have come and gone. At the rate we're going now, that means a Fall of 2015 premier for said series?"

    Also:

    "Rest assured, if a TV series comes out 5-10 years from now? ... Neither of them are so new to Hollywood where they'd risk f*cking this goldmine up."

    And finally:

    "CBS is not insane enough to create a "rogue" Star Trek television series of their choosing...so as not to ruin said franchise and alienate/confuse a valuable fan base."

    Ah, J.J. Thanks for having my back, man! :-)



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      By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:07:24 on Oct 23, 2009

      I knew it was you. I wasn't even going to acknowledge the forum thread! I am curious though what position I have allegedly shifted on?

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        By: The Magrathean (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:13:24 on Oct 23, 2009

        See my edited post above! :-)


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        • RE: TV Series yes... eventually. | Report this post to moderator
          By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:43:11 on Oct 23, 2009

          Welp, sorry to say but none of the quotes you listed from me indicate a shift in position and here is why:

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          ...we likely won't see a new series until the first three films (at the very least) have come and gone. At the rate we're going now, that means a Fall of 2015 premier for said series.

          First, Abrams never says a series would come after this next film. All he says is that a movie and television series could exist at the same time successfully. Second, if you noticed I put "likely" in my statement. Meaning that though it is possible a TV series could come sooner, it is more probable it won't until after a third film.

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          Rest assured, if a TV series comes out 5-10 years from now? ... Neither of them are so new to Hollywood where they'd risk f*cking this goldmine up.

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          CBS is not insane enough to create a "rogue" Star Trek television series of their choosing...so as not to ruin said franchise and alienate/confuse a valuable fan base.

          In these two cases you completely missed the context of my statements altogether. In the above quotes I am not saying that CBS wouldn't ever create a new TV series. I was saying they would not go their own way without input from Paramount, just because they own the TV rights. If you recall, you kept going on and on about how "CBS doesnt need any permission from Paramount, they can do what they want!" I was trying to quell that nonsense. "It'll never happen" in this case meant CBS going on its own without Paramount's partnership to create a TV series.

          Nice try though. ;)

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