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William Shatner Says "I am Not Kirk", Plus Talks Comic Books in New Video Interview

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By GustavoLeao / 23:54, 19 October 2009 / General Genre/SciFi

Toronto Star posted a new interview with Star Trek star William Shatner and here are few excerpts.

"Why do you think people will be surprised to discover I'm so serious inside?" he asks harshly. "My God, does everyone think that I'm all of the characters they've seen me play over the years? Don't they know what acting means? No, I'm not Captain Kirk, no I'm not the man from Priceline." The silence smoulders.


"There's why I loved doing Boston Legal," he continues, in a calmer voice. "David Kelley allowed me to play both ends: Comic antics which hide a melancholy soul.... That's what I'm really all about."


The full interview is here.

Plus, a new video interview with Shatner in which he talks about his line of comic books, including TekWar, can be found here.



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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:59:24 on Oct 20, 2009

I think Shatner's candid comments tell us everything we need to know:

The real William Shatner is far more like Denny Crane than Captain Kirk. This is why Shatner won emmys for Boston Legal. He was playing himself.

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By: FSJGuy (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:16:58 on Oct 20, 2009

Stillkirok's head just exploded lol


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    By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:14:37 on Oct 20, 2009

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    Stillkirok's head just exploded lol

    Well, I'm not going to clean it up!


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      By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:43:21 on Oct 20, 2009

      Uh oh--cyberstalker alert!

      I'm well aware the man and the character are not one and the same. Of course, I never argued that they were. I also liked Boston Legal for showing the world how good of an actor Shatner is, and at least attempting to shut up the Shatnerphobes that have tried to argue that a man who has survived 50 years in Hollywood somehow can't act.


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        By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:29:59 on Oct 20, 2009

        Uh oh-drama queen alert!

        1.) I'm convinced you don't know the meaning of "cyberstalker", given that you've pretty much attached it to people making jokes about and/or replying to you on a public message board.

        2.) It isn't that Shatner CAN'T act. It's just that he's not a very good actor.

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          By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:36:44 on Oct 20, 2009

          Clearly there is some sort of obsession over me here. You of course, are the ultimate cyberstalker, following me from thread to thread.

          And the idea that Shatner isn't a very good actor is just stupid. Again, people who are not very good actors do not last in Hollywood for 50 years and get Emmy nods in their 70s.


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            By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:44:30 on Oct 20, 2009




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            Clearly there is some sort of obsession over me here.

            Nothing beyond you being a punchline of "jimbtnp" proportions due to your gross obsession with the man who once played Captain Kirk, as well as your delusions of your own importance to other people on here.

            Case in point...

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            You of course, are the ultimate cyberstalker, following me from thread to thread.

            Once again, you're displaying your delusions that people are "following" you due to their posting a response to something you posted. You do understand that message boards are a forum for discussion, right? Anything you say can be responded to by anyone on here at any time if they so choose.

            That's not "cyberstalking". That's how message boards work. If you don't want people like me, katefan, prometheus, Ichthus, etc. calling you out when you bring on the batshit crazy, then perhaps you should 1.) block us, 2.) start your own forum where you can bitch and moan to your heart's content, 3.) knock it off already.

            Furthermore, if anyone here is an obessive stalker type, it's you, given not only your "Shatner is God and anyone who doesn't cater to him is a liar and/or a hater" schtick, as well as your continually making it all about me, as you have done once again with this post, when virtually everyone on the site thinks you are a pathetic joke.


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            And the idea that Shatner isn't a very good actor is just stupid.

            And yet, it's still very true. Now, I'll grant you that when push comes to shove, he can get the job done when the situation calls for it ("City on the Edge of Forever" and "Wrath of Khan" come to mind). If you're seriously trying to tell me that you think the likes of T.J. Hooker, The Priceline Negotiator, etc. are feats of great acting, though, then all I can say is, again, you're delusional.

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            Again, people who are not very good actors do not last in Hollywood for 50 years and get Emmy nods in their 70s.

            You must not pay much attention to this kind of stuff, huh? Or you have really low standards of what constitutes "good" acting?

            Shatner is a good showman. He knows how to entertain people. But this great actor you think he is... just... no.

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            By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:45:12 on Oct 20, 2009

            Ahem...Elizabeth Taylor, Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne: these actors were only good at playing Elizabeth Taylor, Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne. Yet, they had long careers.


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              By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:43:43 on Oct 20, 2009

              Jimmy Stewart--a 5 time nominee and one time winner of Best Actor.

              Yeah, he was a pretty good actor.

              Elizabeth Taylor--a 5 time nominee and two time winner for Best Actress.

              Not bad.

              John Wayne--two time nominee and one time winner for Best Actor.

              So that's 4 Best Actor/Actress Oscars.

              And you think they were limited?

              You are putting Shatner in some very good company.

              Legends all of them.

              Quit while you're behind.


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                By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:55:17 on Oct 20, 2009 | Edit History (1)

                Yes they were limited. It didn't matter who they played. Their performance was the same. You saw Elizabeth Taylor, Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne. Despite their performances they did well in their careers. That doesn't make them great, however.

                All respect to Marion Morrison. :)


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                  By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:52:07 on Oct 20, 2009

                  I agree.

                  They really all were one-note actors.

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                  "If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry


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                    By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:36:55 on Oct 20, 2009

                    Indeed. I'd also throw in Clint Eastwood and Jack Nicholson. They've made some great, lasting, successful films, but they're always playing "themselves" in every movie.

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              By: Commodore Stickler (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:16:32 on Oct 20, 2009 | Edit History (2)

              Did I hear you just say that Kirk, T.J. Hooker, the priceline guy and Denny Crain area all just the same guy?

              Shatner: "Open hailing frequencies." Uhura nods. "This is captain James Denny Hooker of the Boston Legal Starship Priceline. Surrender, or I will fire phasers, arrest you, sue you and then give you a really good deal on a vacation!"

              That might actually make a good show.

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              By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:02:12 on Oct 20, 2009

              Hey, you lay off my man Marion Morrison!

              ...

              Wow, I just sounded like someone defending my transvestite boyfriend...

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        By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:54:24 on Oct 20, 2009

        Please, you need to watch TOS again. Shatner has turned in some rather bad acting then and the Priceline Negotiator is pure ham. I won't speak about Denny Crane as I never watched Boston Legal.


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          By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:30:16 on Oct 20, 2009

          I know what Shatner did on TOS. He created a character and starred in a show that became a billion dollar franchise unlike any other before or since. Without Shatner's work, Star Trek never would have become what it became.


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            By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:20:36 on Oct 20, 2009

            Yes, because Gene Roddenberry, Gene L Coon and D.C. Fontana to name a few had nothing to contribute to Star Trek's success. It was all William Shatner. Get Real!


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              By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:32:43 on Oct 20, 2009 | Edit History (2)

              Indeed. Going off his "theory" though that a single actor is responsible for Star Trek's success, I would dare say, IF any one person, it would be Mr. Nimoy, not Shatner, seeing as he was there since "The Cage". Of course, I suspect Mr. Nimoy is far too classy to ever dare attempt to make such a claim (especially given how crazy one would have to be to think it's one specific person who is responsible for it).

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                By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:40:47 on Oct 20, 2009

                If you ask Nimoy, and people have, he would tell you that Shatner is what made the show. Sorry, but without him bringing so much life and energy, the show isn't the success he is.

                You could even see Nimoy commenting on this if you have those old Sci-Fi channel Star Trek episode interviews. Of course, others were involved, but no Shatner, no Star Trek. Shatner was the star--the top bananna. You can't downplay what he did.


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                  By: Ichthus (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:57:42 on Oct 20, 2009

                  No, you can't downplay what he did but you can't say it was all him either. When people talk about TOS they talk about the stories, the social commentaries, the writers and the creator. The only time I heard Star trek is a success because of William Shatner was from you. The actors, not just Shatner, brought life to the efforts of the people behind the scenes. A successful series is a collaboration not a vechicle for one person.

                  By the way, if William Shatner was so great why didn't he have another long term acting gig until T.J. Hooker?


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                    By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:47:51 on Oct 20, 2009

                    Good points. I think Shatner is a good actor and I like the character of Captain Kirk, but Jeffrey Hunter as Pike could have done about the same job. Of course, we will never know and that will always be left to speculation, but seeing Hunter's performance in the first pilot tells me that Pike was very much cut from the same cloth as Kirk; heroic almost to a fault, intelligent, a physical man who kicked as and took names, and was quite popular with the ladies.

                    Hard to say how deeply Shatner's career was affected during the seventies due to his being typecast and how much was due to his acting ability.

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                      By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:16:21 on Oct 20, 2009

                      It was an ensemble show. Like Seinfeld, the actors involved had marginal success on their own, but when put on screen together? Magic. Of course Shatner was an integral part of Star Trek, but just as much so was Leonard Nimoy. It was Leonard that got more fan mail than anyone else, not Shatner. You can also throw in Deforest Kelley too. Kelley inspired people to enter the medical profession, something Shatner cannot boast. I am not knocking any of them individually, I am simply saying that it is the group of actors that made up the TOS cast that are responsible for launching the multi-billion dollar franchise -- not Bill alone.

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                        By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:53:02 on Oct 20, 2009

                        I think you are right. They don't call 'em The Big Three for nothing. And Koenig was a teen idol at that time as well.

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