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Orci and Kurtzman on Introducing Characters from Original Timeline in Star Trek XII

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By GustavoLeao / 22:58, 28 June 2009 / Star Trek: Nemesis

Sci Fi Scanner posted a new interview with Star Trek and Transformers 2 writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman and here are few excerpts of the interview.

Q: Are Transformers fans as ravenous as Trekkies?


BO: Transformers fans taught us how to deal with Star Trek fans. And they're both heavy duty. But Transformers fans taught us how to interact; how to turn the conversation constructive a little bit, and not just have it be, "You suck. Go jump off of a building please."


Q: Did you learn anything from writing Transformers 2 that's been helpful in formulating Trek 2?


AK: They're so different. You're putting on a different hat. And the choices that you make in Transformers with Michael as the director versus Star Trek with J.J. couldn't be more 180 degrees in the opposite direction. So I don't know that for me there's a natural corollary between them.


Q: Would you ever again want to draw characters from the "Prime" universe in the sequel, like you did for Spock?


BO: We can't be done with it completely. But I would start with what's happening to the crew now, and if that became a great thing organic to the momentum of where the first movie is going, then maybe. Anything is possible right now. That's really the juice and the curse of this path.

The full interview is here.



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RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. | Report this post to moderator
By: c.p. (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:59:15 on Jun 29, 2009

I think your verdict on this one is far too broad. You might want to narrow it down if you want to keep your batting average. Shoehorning a deceased Kirk Prime into this movie is light years away from "putting elements of the old universe" into a hypothetical Trek XII. I mean, they already did that in THIS movie. Did you catch the tribbles? Also, I think Kirk was in it and some spaceship--the name escapes me. Hell, they put elements of Star Wars, Lost and Cloverfield in it!

And so it's hardly inconceivable that, say, a Mugatu, or a Carol Marcus, for that matter, could find their way into the next film. It was more difficult to glean the Shatner thing (and I confess I was confused on if he was in or out for a long while) mostly because, hello, Abrams and Co. routinely said they were still looking for a way to put him in it. I certainly didn't take that as a covenant written in stone. But in absence of the prescience you claim to possess, I believed his sincerity. And lo and behold we now know, in detail, the scene that was written for him. I don't think anything you or I or anyone else "knew", nor even any nuggets of wisdom we might have cast into the ether, had anything to do with their decision to leave him out. They did it because it made a better movie. People like me only argued with some like you to recognize that there were more reasonable persons among us who were open-minded about including Shatner, not totally convinced it would work, but not convinced it wasn't doable, given our lack of knowledge of the plot at the time. And given the talent of the makers. That didn't make me a PatBorg (was that her name?) I would never masturbate to Shatner. Well, there was that one episode...

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RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by cdydatzigs @ 12:53:27 on Jun 29
    RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by c.p. @ 13:33:27 on Jun 29
       RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by cdydatzigs @ 13:38:14 on Jun 29
          RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by lnf @ 15:11:41 on Jul 08
          RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by c.p. @ 13:53:47 on Jun 29
             RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by cdydatzigs @ 18:48:53 on Jun 29
                RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by c.p. @ 08:41:31 on Jun 30
                   RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. by cdydatzigs @ 09:07:05 on Jun 30

RE: Before you get your typing fingers warmed up.. | Report this post to moderator
By: lnf (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:17:54 on Jul 08, 2009

cdydatzigs wrote:

Haha, you know I got the EXACT same criticism in 2007-08 regarding the whole Shatner thing. I felt he shouldn't be in the film and knew he wouldn't be. Eventually people started agreeing, the topic became moot and I ended up being right.

You weren't being prophetic, Shatner himself was the first to say he wasn't going to be in it. Get over yourself.

For 2009-10, I have a feeling I am going to have to endure the same fantasy-talk regarding people wanting to see elements of the old universe in the new films, TV series, etc.. I am hoping these folks will come to their senses quicker than the "Shatnerbators" did. ;)

Considering you fell all over yourself to defend Abrams, that makes you an "Abramsbator."

You're just pissed off that TOS still has fans, and Berman Trek is already forgotten.

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