Stewart was not happy about being left out of the Harry Potter series which - on film - is a showcase of British actors.
I don't see how CrapTrek doesn't fit his analysis of some of those other films.
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Nice to see comments on it from a Trek alum. We saw all kinds of interviews BEFORE the movie came out, but I can't really recall reading comments by Trek stars about their reaction. It's nice that Patrick Stewart saw it. I simply can't believe Shatner hasn't seen it...OR any of the movies or episodes that Patrick Stewart was in. Simply awful. I'm sorry...I like Shatner and love Kirk, but I just don't understand how you could not watch some of these movies when it's basically your life's work. I mean...he's really got NO interest? If he's SO uninterested, I can't see why he is upset about not being cast in anything.
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I mean...he's really got NO interest? If he's SO uninterested, I can't see why he is upset about not being cast in anything.
Maybe he only cares about Trek if he's in it. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn't make him horrible. It does fit with my perceptioon of his ego though.
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I'm sorry, can you source anywhere that he ever had any actual interest in Potter? Produucers MAY have had an interest in him, but any hint that he was interested?
If not, then you're just projecting your own bitter fantasies so you don't have to deal with what was said.
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I don't see how CrapTrek doesn't fit his analysis of some of those other films.
Because he's worked with Trek for years and grasps it at a level beyond your infantile baseless, hatred.
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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture." ---Pastor Ray Mummert speaking of those who favor Darwinian Evolution over Intelligent Design.
"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry
This is a really awkward interview. I mean, I love Star Trek, but it's FILLED with violence, noise, and special effects.
And from what I've heard about Up it isn't going to be an especially violent or noisy movie. Although I suppose you can't avoid the special effects since it is Pixar (but...but...it's such wonderful animation). And I haven't heard that it's supposed to be 'standardized' either, whatever that's supposed to mean.
And obviously he hasn't read much Harry Potter or he'd realize there's a LOT more to the new movie than any of those things.
Terminator...well, okay...THERE he has a point.
Sorry, I'm glad he liked the movie. I just think that some of the other things he said weren't thought through very well.
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This is a really awkward interview.
No, it was an honest and candid interview. You're not used to the actors who play these iconic characters give their normal, human opinions very much. I welcomed this actually.
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And from what I've heard about Up it isn't going to be an especially violent or noisy movie.
If you actually read his response, the "violence and noise" he mentions were descriptive of the other two trailers. When it came to Up he was remarking at how stanardized many of the animated CGI flicks have become. I mean, talking animals? He has a point.
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And I haven't heard that it's supposed to be 'standardized' either, whatever that's supposed to mean.
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And obviously he hasn't read much Harry Potter or he'd realize there's a LOT more to the new movie than any of those things.
He never said he did read the books -- he was solely commenting on the latest Harry Potter trailer which is very dark in tone and in feel. Hell, it's as if all of the Potter flicks are shot with a thick, blue-tinted lens now.
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Sorry, I'm glad he liked the movie. I just think that some of the other things he said weren't thought through very well.
He was candid and honest. I think it was your response to his remarks that weren't thought through very well. No offense.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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No offense taken. However, I'm not sure how you can define for me what awkward is...it felt awkward to me. If it felt 'candid' to you, that's cool, but it hardly changes the way I felt while I read it. I will also say that you probably shouldn't tell me what I'm used to. I've read plenty of candid interviews in the past, and found many of them to be quite enjoyable.
Next I think YOU need to reread it (I did on your request), because his wording clearly states that he found ALL of the trailers to be the same.
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All the trailers sounded and looked the same. Full of standardised levels of noise, violence and special effects and I thought, 'My God, nothing would attract me to any of these'.
In other words he IS including the Pixar trailer there, at least according to the sentence that he said. Now it may be that I'm missing context or that it's just an honest wording mistake on his part. I accept that possibility.
Also, in regards to Up and how it is standardized. Fine. I'll accept that's what he meant. I still think it's silly.
FINALLY I never said he said that he read the book. I just thought it was strange to accuse Harry Potter about appearing to be about violence, special effects, OR noise. Maybe my understanding of the books colored my viewing of the trailer.
Okay, now that I'm done defending my individual statements let me better explain my central point (which I notice you didn't argue). What I found awkward about the interview is the fact that he is complaining about violent, loud, special effects laden movies while at the same time praising Star Trek, which is itself violent, loud, and special effect laden.
I also found the wording to be confusing.
Look, I'm not attacking Patrick Stewart. I like Patrick Stewart. Hell, I love Patrick Stewart (don't judge me world!) The man is awesome, has a great voice, and is a fantastic actor.
But come on, surely in a comment thread under an interview I should be allowed to voice my thoughts on said interview. Isn't that the point? I'm not calling for his head. I'm not angry he liked Star Trek. I just thought he was a little confusing this time.
And that's as far as I meant it to go. If I misworded my response to sound too harsh...well, I'm sorry. I don't honestly care too much, which makes it funny to consider that I've had to go to such lengths to explain myself.
Heh. Such is the internet. Anyway. Time for me to try and go get a life (or failing that, watch some Star Trek...)
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I love how predicatble so many of you are. If Stewart had said he didn't like the movie you guys would have attacked him for being "bitter", "unappreciative of what the franchise did for his career" and told the guy to "go back to the stage where you belong."
So the guy praises the film genuinely and you retort with "of course he said that, he doesn't want to alienate the fans or the new regime" or "he is just selling out" blah blah.
If nothing an actor says is the right answer in your eyes, then you are either (a) jealous that you are not in their shoes [or could even fit into their costume] or (b) you're just b*tching for the sake of b*tching. There, you've been exposed.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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If he had loathed it, Mudfeld and geepee and the couple others like them would have been on a near orgasmic high praising their intellect and taste.
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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture." ---Pastor Ray Mummert speaking of those who favor Darwinian Evolution over Intelligent Design.
"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry
Bitterness.
This film iz teh suck. Everyone here is either just "starved" for Trek or a paid plant. You just wait until the new film comes out. Nobody's gonna like this....crap.
Well, they hate it to the tune of $336,524,279.
Oops.
Well, no one associated with Trek is gonna like it. THEY know what trek is.
Except Nimoy liked the script enough to come out of retirement. I mean, sell out.
Stewart likes it so of course he's just covering his ass because, in order to ever work for a film company you have to publically love EVERY film that's ever been released under their banner.
What amuses me most is how they've remained conspicuously silent on the endorsement of the film by Herb Solow, I think literally the last of TOS' creators left alive and as close as you'll ever come to Roddenberry. Liked it enough to endorse it and want to see these stories with these people continue
The louder and more absurd their wailing becomes? It's just music to the ears. Proof that JJ kicked the right (and most insane) segment of fandom to the curb.
Every rant is like a victory theme...the more absurd the rant the greater the crescendo,so enjoy it.
I know I will. :)
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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture." ---Pastor Ray Mummert speaking of those who favor Darwinian Evolution over Intelligent Design.
"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry
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Stewart likes it so of course he's just covering his ass because, in order to ever work for a film company you have to publically love EVERY film that's ever been released under their banner.
Now, you know you and I pretty much are on the same page when it comes to the idiot "fans" on here wailing every chance they get. Call me stupid but..your above Stewart remark was sarcasm right? It's hard to tell, lol.
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Call me stupid but..your above Stewart remark was sarcasm right? It's hard to tell, lol.
Absolutely. I mean you don't trash a STUDIO you might want to work for, but thinking it's realistic to think that an actor has to say, "Ohhhh... Friday the 13th: Jason takes Manhattan? Total masterpiece." just because a potential employer made it is absurd.
He couldve easily said, "It simply wasn't appealing to me but I'm thrilled that so many other people are enjoying it because Star Trek was a big part of my life and it's suceess in any form brings new fans to perhaps enjoy the work I'd done back in the day"
So, yeah. Total sarcasm intended. :)
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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture." ---Pastor Ray Mummert speaking of those who favor Darwinian Evolution over Intelligent Design.
"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry
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but thinking it's realistic to think that an actor has to say, "Ohhhh... Friday the 13th: Jason takes Manhattan? Total masterpiece."
Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Are you saying "Jason Takes Manhattan" WASN'T a total masterpiece? ;-)
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Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Are you saying "Jason Takes Manhattan" WASN'T a total masterpiece? ;-)
No, it wasn't. Jason X however? Boy, Kubrick himself woulda been envious of that one.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
Good of him to go and see the movie. Moreover, he liked it!
Now Shatner needs to go see this film. C'mon Shatner - your fans are saying Stewart's only kissing up to Abrams in the hopes of a role in the next one. Well, no harm in you kissing the ring at this point in time either, then! ;-)
This wouldn't surprise me if true:
So, what did you really think of the new movie, Mr. Stewart?
"...Full of standardised levels of noise, violence and special effects and I thought, 'My God, nothing would attract me to this.
"I love animated movies and I especially love Pixar but I weary of standardisation. I don't know what's happened... but I better not go on, you never know, they might want to cast me in Star Trek XII."
Of course Stewart will say he liked it. He has nothing to lose and perhaps something to gain by saying so. I doubt any Trek actor would risk a possible future role in the new Crap-Trek. JJ might not want actors from other Trek franchises anyway but he would certainly not bring them in unless they had endorsed the little Trek partition he squeezed out.
I doubt that Stewart has any real desire to do Trek again but it doesn't hurt him in the least to grease the pimp's hand with a disposable dollar.
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Yeah, because it can't possibly be that he took his grandchildren to see it, watched it, and... oh, I don't know... liked the movie. After all, it's not as if millions of people all over the world have been going to see it for the past month and enjoying/loving it.
And, clearly, any time one of the millions of people all over the world who've seen the film say they like it, it MUST just be that they're out to try to get something (money...work...etc.) from J.J. Abrams. *rolls eyes*
Christ man, you're beginning to make "jimbtnp" look smart.
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"Oh relax, Cupcake. It was a joke."- James T. Kirk
Patrick Stewart is a paid plant of JJ Abrams! RRRRRGGHHH!
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Even Picard himself liked it. ;-)
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"Oh relax, Cupcake. It was a joke."- James T. Kirk
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Jimbtnp, geepee, Mudfeld implosion in 4...3...2...
Sweet.
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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture." ---Pastor Ray Mummert speaking of those who favor Darwinian Evolution over Intelligent Design.
"If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He demands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty Humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being." ---Gene Roddenberry
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I bet at least one of them comments on how we still need to hear what Sisko, Janeway, and Archer think about it. ;-)
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Well, don't you know? It doesn't matter what the actors (say they) think.
First, actors are stupid, and they don't "get" Star Trek anyway. Just take Leonard Nimoy who sold out for this last craptacular excuse of a movie.
Second, no actor will ever voice any criticism because they are all afraid to enrage the mighty JJ Abrams who might not cast them in one of his future craptacular excuses of a movie.
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It doesn't matter what the actors (say they) think.
First, actors are stupid, and they don't "get" Star Trek anyway.
So anyone on this planet who either dislikes or doesn't "get" Star Trek is stupid? Can you be any more juvenile and wrong? C'mon now..
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Just take Leonard Nimoy who sold out for this last craptacular excuse of a movie.
The writers had to come to his house and essentially beg the guy to play Spock again. First you chastise the world for not "getting" Star Trek, then you call this $400 million film crap?
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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