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The Wall Street Journal posted a new interview with Star Trek movie stars Chris Pine (Kirk) and Zachary Quinto (Spock) and here are a few excerpts of the article.

Chris Pine

WSJ: J.J. Abrams has said he's making the movie for future fans, not necessarily veterans. What's he doing to freshen the story that might rattle Trek fans?

Mr. Pine: I'm not well-versed in the Trek canon, but we're venturing into territory that's only been covered in these paperback novels they sell. It's definitely not going to please everyone. There's a scene where my character is in a bar and he's definitely inebriated and under the influence of his own arrogance. It's him becoming the Kirk everyone knows. In my book that makes the journey a little more interesting. If he's a clear-cut leader from the beginning, you don't have anywhere to go.

Why has this character become so mythic?

Kirk is still a little elusive to me. But what I think is so unique about this story is that, unlike other genre movies, "Star Trek" has always represented an incredible amount of optimism. In the late '60s, in a time of unrest, it represented this utopian world. As opposed to "The Dark Knight," which I enjoyed, but was so bleak and didn't speak kindly of humanity. Kirk is so iconic because he's the head of this fantastical utopian team. They aren't superheroes, they're men and women trying to achieve something good.

A lot has been made of the differences you bring to the Kirk character, but what aspects of the original did you keep?

There's a lot of humor, arrogance and decisiveness. I tried to bring in these qualities, but with this new element of a young man coming into his own -- he's a leader who doesn't know he's a leader yet. But the speech pattern? Absolutely not. In that territory it becomes an impersonation. I can only do my version of it.

Zachary Quinto

What things did Leonard Nimoy tell you about Spock to help you understand him?

Mr Quinto: It's been such an indelible mark on his life and he's metabolized it so gracefully. We spent some time watching episodes but it was an all encompassing experience. We'd go to his house. We'd meet sometimes at Paramount. I'm seeing him before the holidays. He's an advanced mind and heart and I want to hang out with him as much as possible.

A lot has been made of the differences you bring to the Spock character, but what aspects of the original did you keep?

Especially with Spock, more so than Kirk, there are characteristic movements. It's established in the mythology, this stillness and economy of movement. There are ways one holds oneself, such as the hands behind the back.

Why has this character become so mythic?

In this archetypal way, people respond to someone who's able to contain himself. He operates from a place of logic, but always with the betterment of others in mind. He's able to endure things and experience things from a place of balance.

More from Pine and Quinto on Star Trek can be found at the full interview.



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It's good that it won't please everyone... | Report this post to moderator
By: The TREKMAN!!!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:58:48 on Jan 05, 2009

I'm glad that the movie will not please everyone. That's what Nemesis was trying to do and look what happened to that...

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    By: jimbtnp (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:54:39 on Jan 05, 2009

    Who said that about Nemesis? You?

    Nemesis was the best of the TNG bunch IMHO

    back to the reboot...

    instead of focusing on a true new scifi human conditionesq adventure in the spirit of TOS they come up with some fanboy timetravel babble looking inward on ST

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      By: The TREKMAN!!!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 02:42:19 on Jan 06, 2009

      Nemesis was the fanboy movie.

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      By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 17:46:18 on Jan 05, 2009

      Judging by the box office Nemesis didn't please anyone that matters.

      It's funny how you thow "fanboy" arounds as some sort of insult, yet call Nemesis a good film when it was absolutely nothing BUT a nonsensical fanwank rip of TWOK.



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        By: jimbtnp (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:12:59 on Jan 05, 2009

        the ties to TWOK are loose and are at 50000ft - nobody but hardcore fans even compare teh two at that level there's so little in common


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          By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 18:14:27 on Jan 05, 2009 | Edit History (1)

          Yeah.

          A plot point by plot point rip = "little in commom." What color is the sky in your world?

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      By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:26:35 on Jan 05, 2009

      *Looks in.*

      *Sees the same old pointless whining.*

      *Shrugs shoulders.*

      *Leaves*

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Hear hear, Chris Pine! | Report this post to moderator
By: SirTrekker (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:51:18 on Jan 05, 2009

I always get a big smile on my face when any of the new movie's cast or crew say something like Chris Pine did in this interview. I don't want them to feel an obligation to cater to every element of Star Trek fandom. We're too fickle a fanbase for that to be even remotely feasible. The best we can hope for is that they've taken the elements that work and do the best to emulate them. After all, it's reasonable to expect a certain degree of similarity, but if you're looking for a carbon copy of what's already been done, you've got a long and unfulfilling wait on your hands. I don't want Abrams and Co. to apologize for the things they decided to tweak or change to make their story relevant and entertaining. The writers and producers and directors of Treks past did their jobs ably and gave us works of visual art we can enjoy for a long time, but their time has passed. It's time to let someone else take the reins for a while and have at least a modicum of patience and understanding, and give them a chance to win our hearts all over again.


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By: Ralphis (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:35:21 on Jan 05, 2009

I'm getting more and more pissed off over the fact that originally would could have seen this movie already! Twice! But no! We have to wait until May!

And to think... there's an alternate universe somewhere where the release date didn't get moved to May... and those mirror universe Trekkies have already seen the movie! Twice!

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    By: The TREKMAN!!!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:55:00 on Jan 05, 2009

    By now only twice? Hell, by now I think I would've see it at least four or five times!!

    I'm even planing on seeing the movie a few times opening weekend!

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I think Chris gets it.... | Report this post to moderator
By: OV-101 (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:11:11 on Jan 05, 2009

I was very impressed with Chris' comments. I think he really understands Kirk and what he represents. Even in TOS, there were rough edges to Kirk and he was an elusive character to a point. He was arrogent in TOS as well but it was tempered, or seasoned (sorry older men). I am so looking forward to seeing Pine's interpretation of Kirk. If we are all honest I think we will very much appreciate his work and will enjoy it.

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    By: Terry212 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:57:16 on Jan 05, 2009

    Overall, I am pleased by Pine's comments, too. I think when you see what actors perform the best on Trek, they're the ones who know little or nothing about the show. They're better able to bring something NEW to the game. We are SO used to how a Starfleet security officer or a counsellor or a captain or how a science officer will react to a given Trek situation, that it's harder and harder to imagine something fresh. These people come to the movie with very few preconceptions. If I were him, I'd do my homework and ask someone to put together a reel of 10 hours of the most Kirk-ish material....episodes that get a reaction out of him....but at the same time, you can't do Trek 11 as the character of Kirk we know and love. Pine's Kirk has yet to lose Edith Keeler, has yet to lose David or Spock or become jaded the way he is about Starfleet when he's in the Nexus. He has to be much more green and rough and it sounds like Pine has latched onto that. As for fans not wanting to see Kirk an arrogant, drunken youth...I think he misunderstands us as geeks who just want to see the good cartoon hero beat the mustache-twirling villain. He doesn't realize that Kirk-as-Troubled will go over really well, especially since we all know he'll overcome that callowness and lack of direction. I think Pine will be pleasantly surprised by fans' reaction to him, really.

    For me, I'm more concerned about Quinto taking that wolfish violence out of his acting and projecting that Vulcan reserve as something other than cold arrogance. There's a drollness to TOS Spock that I hope Quinto can tap into...but then again, if he's less comfortable in his own skin in Trek 11, that's probably fine, too. That's explainable. All the characters can be less refined at this point.

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      By: OV-101 (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:47:55 on Jan 05, 2009

      I know what you mean about Spock. IMO, I have to say Quinto had the hardest task of all. I believe that he will do a better job than Berman did when he tried, poorly, to do something similar in Enterprise. There the Vulcans were just assholes. It will be interesting to see if Quinto's Spock is as ashamed of him human half as Nimoy's TOS Spock sometimes felt. Maybe shame is not the correct word but it is the closest word I can think of....

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      "I'm a politician, which means I am a cheat and a liar, and when I am not kissing babies I am stealing their lollipops."
      -- Jeffrey Pelt, The Hunt for Red October

      "Liberals, Intellectuals, Peacemongers, IDIOTS!!!!"
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        By: Terry212 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:00:50 on Jan 05, 2009

        yeah, agreed. Berman did just make Vulcans assholes. They were condescending and they sneered a lot. They didn't show emotionless, they showed a near-violent frustration and impatience. They were constantly petty and sarcastic. I suppose the episodes where Surak's teachings are rediscovered by Archer go to somewhat explain how the Vulcans had fallen into something non-Surakian but how they could be much more rational in Spock's time. Of course, the TNG-era Vulcans were sometimes pretty testy, too. ENT had the worst offenders, though.

        Yes, I think Quinto has the hardest job...with Karl Urban as a close second. I don't imagine I'll be satisfied by Urban's Atlanta accent. It's a really tough accent to master for a non-native. I'm good with accents, but I'd have to sit and work on it for quite a few days and I live 5 hours south of Atlanta. Urban is from half a world away. I like the guy, but it's a tall order for an actor. I don't need a McCoy impression, but bad accents in movies are a pet peeve of mine...that and the fact that Hollywood can NEVER seem to cast a southerner in a southern role. Cold Mountain was like a THESIS in bad-accent casting.

        Based on the preview, I would imagine that Spock's struggle with his human half and dual heritage will be front-and-center in the movie. Even in the preview, we get the "you're of two worlds" speech to young Spock and we see him lose his temper and attack Kirk. I am frankly a little worried that they're kicking Spock's "shame" (a good word for it, I think) up one notch too many. It's hard to imagine him clobbering Kirk, particuarly in light of how Kirk needles him about emotions in TOS. It makes the needling a little mean-spirited if Kirk actually got a violent rise out of Spock in the past. It's like taunting an alocholic about whether he wants to do shots. It's in poor taste if you ever actually got the guy to drink and got him plastered and sent back to rehab. Am I making any sense?




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          By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:55:23 on Jan 06, 2009

          Don't forget, Spock was much more emotional in "The Cage," so maybe they're going with the angle that he hasn't quite managed to bring his human half under control yet.

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          It's like taunting an alocholic about whether he wants to do shots. It's in poor taste if you ever actually got the guy to drink and got him plastered and sent back to rehab. Am I making any sense?


          Totally. I only hope that it is not out of spite. I hope it is in more in line with TOS' "The Paradise Syndrome", where Kirk has to piss off Spock to kill the mean nasty, great feeling, spores. It was a tool and not just a meanless jabb. I don't want to see too much, as Data would say, petty bickering. Ok, maybe between Spock and Bones but that's it!! There were episodes in the TNG era that made out Vulcans to be jerks. For one, DS9's "Take Me Out To the Holsuite" was the best example I can think of. There was the other, episode name escapes me, in S7 where Ezri discovers a Vulcan assassin/sniper. Interesting episode but it sure put some hints into what was to come in Enterprise. I wonder?

          Great point about Karl. I didn't think how hard it would be to be Dr. McCoy. He was a very complex character, indeed. I always found the good Doc to be a bit Schitz (sp?). You never know what would piss him off. What I have seen so far I am pretty much pleased with Urban's work. I can get over the accent.

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      By: sid (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:28:33 on Jan 05, 2009

      I had some similar thoughts about key Kirk life changing milestones that they need to be sure do not appear in the young Kirk. I did not get the feel from Pine's comments that he was coached to avoid certain attitudes. Fortunately, the odds of stepping into some of these areas are not too high.


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By: David-Seattle (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:13:54 on Jan 05, 2009

On the contrary, I think it did demonstrate the goodness of humanity. Despite the corruption and terrorism, the people of Gotham are worth saving.

The horrific situation on the ferries articulated that.

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    By: LCARS (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:04:09 on Jan 05, 2009

    Is it just me or have a lot of film makers taken their shots at The Dark Knight with comments like this? I don't know maybe I'm in the small crowd but I really don't see why everyone says it's so dark and get hung up on that. Is the movie dark, yes, but if you really sit down and look at it the film it really does end on a positive note and does speak kindly of humanity as mentioned above. A lot of people get hung up on the "Batman is a villain" ending and they completely miss the fact that he chose to do that for the greater good, that by being labeled a villain he's better equiped to deal with the real villains and keep the good citizens of Gotham from killing themselves trying to emulate him. It's really a heroic sacrifice of sorts and very positive in th long run for Gotham.

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By: Captain's Blog (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:51:45 on Jan 05, 2009

Glad the new cast aren't doing impressions of the original actors - that would've made it seem like a parody.

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By: Vash_066 (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:39:07 on Jan 05, 2009

I'm glad to hear someone finally say it. Can't please everyone, and trying to do so will more then likely end up with a steamy pile of poo.

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    By: Gothampunk (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:05:59 on Jan 05, 2009

    I agree. Any character development will end up rubbing some the wrong way.

    In TOS, Spock was the only main character with any real history revealed onscreen. There were some tidbits here and there, but nothing substantial.

    Ther was a thread on here somewhere recently with a bunch of people bloviating ridiculously about how Roddenberry created some kind of monochromatic view of humanity. That ignores the fact that ST, as `unique as it was, was still very much a 60's network dramas. They were story-driven, and formulaic in how each story unfolded, in a way to keep viewers from switching channels. Shows didn't begin to emphasize character development until the 80's and 90's, led by cable shows which were freed from the constraints of the three act - commercial breaks format.

    So Kirk, McCoy, Scotty, Uhura, Sulu and Chekov can be seen as nearly blank slates. We'll see what happens and how the new audience responds. I'm betting on STXI being a decent hit.


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