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Star Trek star Leonard Nimoy sent this exclusive message to the TrekWeb community, regarding some of the negative feelings expressed by some fans about the new movie in this website. Here is the message :

"About two months ago my wife,Susan, and I saw a near finished version of the new Star Trek movie. Some special effects and new score were not yet in place. Susan can be a very honest and tough critic. When it was clear that the story was wrapping up she turned to me and whispered, " I don't want this movie to end !!" There are some directors who can manage a grand scale and some who can deliver great personal character elements. Not many can do both. JJ Abrams is one of the few. He has given us a wonderful film."

TrekWeb wants to thanks Mr Nimoy for his kindness and his time to writing this brief message. Thank you.



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By: Captain's Blog (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:23:23 on Dec 08, 2008

You tell 'em, Leonard.

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By: Disposable Red Shirt (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:55:48 on Dec 05, 2008

Nimoy has always been a class act. I can't wait for the movie to come out and trust his judgement as to the quality of it. Thanks for all the wonderful years Leonard! Live long and prosper. :)

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By: geepee16 (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:20:06 on Dec 05, 2008

While i am happy to see Nimoy taking time out of his retirement to address us here - a rarity, i admit - let's not get carried away. After all, he even had nice things to say about Star Trek V. He has nothing to gain by being critical of this film now. Why would he be? Most sensible actors would not trash an upcoming film. In fact, many times, actors are contractually obligated to promote a film. For the opinions of Mr and Mrs Nimoy, let's wait a few years.

It is proper to thank him for his time but I think many are using this piece of PR to justify their belief that this movie will be good.


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    By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:50:16 on Dec 05, 2008

    "...he even had nice things to say about Star Trek V."

    No he didn't. You made that up. Read "I am Spock".

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      By: lnf3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:34:05 on Jan 11, 2009

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      "...he even had nice things to say about Star Trek V."

      No he didn't. You made that up. Read "I am Spock".


      He didn't make anything up, you constant liar. He's complimented many things about the movie, including the opening ride in the desert. Nice try, supporter-of-Berman.


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        By: SuperDave (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:46:44 on Jan 12, 2009

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        Nice try, supporter-of-Berman.

        You continue to say idiotic things about Jeremy that further reveal that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

        Since when has he been Berman supporter?

        Not that you'd know, having only been here since October. Jer and I have been here for years.

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          By: lnf3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:54:26 on Jan 19, 2009

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          Quote:Nice try, supporter-of-Berman.

          You continue to say idiotic things about Jeremy that further reveal that you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

          Since when has he been Berman supporter?

          Not that you'd know, having only been here since October. Jer and I have been here for years.


          He lost his credibility the day he said "William Shatner isn't an actor", then named himself after a character Berman CREATED. The fact she was one of the most wooden characters in Trek history makes it even funnier.

          I know you want to stick up for your buddy, but there's no way he can weasel out of that. But maybe he can just post the same picture 8,000 saying "I like William Shatner's balls in my face" as a retort. He did it many times before.

          And I've been here since a year after Trekweb was created. So you can't do the "My inbred buddies were here longer, thus making them automatically right." defense.


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      By: geepee16 (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:12:22 on Dec 05, 2008

      I am Spock was published six years (i think) after the nice things he had said in build-up to Star Trek V. My point in this thread is that we won't really know what Nimoy thinks of the new film until after the need for hype/promotion/PR has passed.


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        By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:04:20 on Dec 05, 2008

        For all of it's flaws, ST V had some great character moments between Kirk, Spock & McCoy.

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          By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:28:40 on Dec 06, 2008

          That may be. But Nimoy still hasn't ever had any "nice things" to say about it.

          And, yes, there's some good moments. But Leonard is absolutely right: it's a bad film. And it's okay to say so. We dont cut any slack for any other movies that have "good moments", but are otherwise bad, so the same should be true of TFF.

          We're letting nostalgia and our affection for the classic cast color our judgment, causing us to try and retcon any TOS "badness" into seeming not-so-bad by pointing out what little good there was in it. The original series has plenty of goodness (more than any of the sequels shows) to praise. We dont need to try and make the bad seem better than it was.

          Look, Star Trek V sucks. We all know it. And, frankly, it had no choice but to suck because they were riding a bad script. Shatner's creative instincts were all wrong from the very beginning. This isn't a Star Trek Nemesis thing were a re-write could have made it better. The whole story was fundamentally flawed, and it was never going to succeed no matter how it was done. And Shatner bares the blame for that. It was his idea, his story, his baby.

          Look, unlike Nimoy, Bill's just isn't a film-maker. And--also unlike Nimoy--he's not even an actor; Shatner is a "personality", a "movie-star". He never had any business behind that camera in the first place.

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            By: SuperDave (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:56:49 on Jan 12, 2009

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            The whole story was fundamentally flawed

            I think on a conceptual level, there was some promise there. But in the end, there was probably no way a "search for God" movie could have paid off the way the Shat envisioned it. Better to have left the end extremely ambiguous perhaps...maybe Sybok makes it through the barrier but no one else...I dunno...just bulshitting....

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            By: lnf3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:32:56 on Jan 11, 2009

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            That may be. But Nimoy still hasn't ever had any "nice things" to say about it.

            And, yes, there's some good moments. But Leonard is absolutely right: it's a bad film. And it's okay to say so. We dont cut any slack for any other movies that have "good moments", but are otherwise bad, so the same should be true of TFF.

            We're letting nostalgia and our affection for the classic cast color our judgment, causing us to try and retcon any TOS "badness" into seeming not-so-bad by pointing out what little good there was in it. The original series has plenty of goodness (more than any of the sequels shows) to praise. We dont need to try and make the bad seem better than it was.

            Look, Star Trek V sucks. We all know it. And, frankly, it had no choice but to suck because they were riding a bad script. Shatner's creative instincts were all wrong from the very beginning. This isn't a Star Trek Nemesis thing were a re-write could have made it better. The whole story was fundamentally flawed, and it was never going to succeed no matter how it was done. And Shatner bares the blame for that. It was his idea, his story, his baby.

            Look, unlike Nimoy, Bill's just isn't a film-maker. And--also unlike Nimoy--he's not even an actor; Shatner is a "personality", a "movie-star". He never had any business behind that camera in the first place.


            Nimoy most certainly HAS said "nice things" about the movie, you liar.

            And as for your comment of Shatner not being an actor: There goes what little credibility you ever had. Especially considering one of your former screennames was a character played by people whose acting ability makes a plank of wood seem animated.


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            By: Crossbow (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:17:25 on Dec 06, 2008

            You people are still bitching about STV? get over it already. 5 movies have come since then. So get a life buddy!


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              By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 21:31:52 on Dec 06, 2008 | Edit History (3)

              *sigh*

              We "people" are not bitching about anything. I was responding to someone else; and you are ignoring the context of that narrative flow, thus resulting in this pathetic excuse on your part to promote yourself as the latest self-appointed "voice of reason"--commenting with the same transparently absurd "telling-it-like-it-is" bullshit folksy wisdom--I've seen a million times before.

              So...kindly piss off.

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                By: lnf3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:30:13 on Jan 11, 2009 | Edit History (1)

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                *sigh*

                We "people" are not bitching about anything. I was responding to someone else; and you are ignoring the context of that narrative flow, thus resulting in this pathetic excuse on your part to promote yourself as the latest self-appointed "voice of reason"--commenting with the same transparently absurd "telling-it-like-it-is" bullshit folksy wisdom--I've seen a million times before.

                So...kindly piss off.


                All you do is bitch, you liar. Your sloppy photoshops of "I Like William Shatner's Balls In My Face" provide plenty of evidence of that.

                As for the "piss off", are you going to MAKE him? Or are you just going to back down like you always do?


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                By: Crossbow (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:18:27 on Dec 07, 2008

                I near claimed to the voice of reason. But for people to complain about STV after all these years is pretty pathetic. I see a bruised ego on your part. Too bad it is unwarrented. So you can kindly piss off yourself.


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                  By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:43:47 on Dec 07, 2008

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                  But for people to complain about STV after all these years is pretty pathetic.

                  I fail to see how it is any more or less pathetic than the idiots who continually bitch and moan about things in a movie they haven't actually watched yet, and that won't be released to theaters for another five months.

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                    By: Crossbow (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:03:10 on Dec 08, 2008

                    Oh yes the tired comment (it is all the boards in the UK and trekmovie.com) about how you have to "pay to see the movie before you can comment on anything about it". Just silly I am sure in your life you have looked at movies and said "uh oh" before seeing it and don't even try to lie and say you haven't.

                    For people to slam STV and Shatner after all these years is nothing short of being petty and pathetic. It came out. It wasn't that great. So get over it. But for all the Anti-Shatner people out there it is their shield to continue slamming him. Oh by the way are you going to slame Shatner too? Let me ask you..Have you actually MEET him? Shouldn't people who slam Shatner at least should of meet him first before saying a thing?


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                      By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:48:26 on Dec 08, 2008

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                      Oh yes the tired comment (it is all the boards in the UK and trekmovie.com) about how you have to "pay to see the movie before you can comment on anything about it". Just silly I am sure in your life you have looked at movies and said "uh oh" before seeing it and don't even try to lie and say you haven't.

                      It's called being open-minded. In my experiences over the years, when it comes to film, it has proven, more often than not, to be worthwhile to keep an open mind until I've actually seen the finished product (As I explained to another poster a few days ago. See "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale" as perfect examples where my initial reactions, sight unseen, turned out to be way off).

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                      For people to slam STV and Shatner after all these years is nothing short of being petty and pathetic. It came out. It wasn't that great. So get over it.

                      I am over it. I actually never had an ax to grind about it to begin with. However, it can be fun to sit back and point and laugh at the places where the film was beyond awful. It's kind of like Mystery Science Theater 3000, in that way.

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                      But for all the Anti-Shatner people out there it is their shield to continue slamming him.

                      None of us are Anti-Shatner. We are however openminded enough to accept the fact that Star Trek can, has, and hopefully will continue to get along just fine without him. Nor are we going to condemn a film sight unseen just because he hasn't been included, despite the fact that he agreed to kill off his version of the character 14 years ago (I know, I know, "It's sci-fi, and they brought Spock back.").

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                      Oh by the way are you going to slame Shatner too?

                      No, I am not. Why, because at the end of the day, guess what? My life doesn't revolve around William Shatner.

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                      Let me ask you..Have you actually MEET him?

                      Nope. Can't say I have. Nor do I care to.

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                      Shouldn't people who slam Shatner at least should of meet him first before saying a thing?

                      So, you only ever slam people who you've actually met then? Oh...right...you slammed me higher up in this very topic and we've never met.

                      Again, I'm going to have to say...pot, meet kettle...

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          By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:06:56 on Dec 05, 2008

          Indeed. Apart from the "singing" (if you want to call it that), that's the one aspect of that movie I truly enjoy.

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          By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:34:57 on Dec 05, 2008

          "For all of it's flaws, ST V had some great character moments between Kirk, Spock & McCoy."

          Absolutely. The weird thing about STV is that it had some of the worst moments in any of the films, and also some of the best. And the Kirk-Spock-McCoy interactions were the best thing about it.


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          By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:58:44 on Dec 05, 2008

          I gree. Star Trek V has very good character development and wonderful moments between Kirk, Spock and McCcoy. The movie presents their friendship in a wonderful way, and Mr Shatner does a good job directing, despiste the poor special effects and the anti-climatic ending. A good movie, in my opinion.

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            By: geepee16 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:11:15 on Dec 06, 2008

            I don't mean to bash ST:V (which would just continue going off-topic). I just want to say that this is PR and it doesn't matter if it's Nimoy, Orci, Abrams, whoever. Think of Nimoy and anyone else associated with the project as still under obligation to build it up. Trashing a movie yo uwere hired to appear in before release is akin to betrayal in Hollywood. A younger actor would feel a studio's wrath for that kind of sabotage.

            That being said, I have no doubt Mrs. Nimoy liked the film. Perhaps Nimoy did as well.

            If he seems puzzled by the negativity surrounding this film, he need only be reminded of his initial reaction to the news that TOS was being remastered. I believe his exact words were, "Shame on them." He later was given a better idea of what was going on and supported it. All we have to go on with ST:XI makes me say 'Shame on them.'

            I have said before that Star Trek's TOS cast and stories were good enough the first time around. What they are doing now is like taking down a retired athlete's jersey from the rafters just to see his number in action again. Trek should move forward. Do the story in the 34th Century if necessary.

            I wonder - in any case - what the Nimoys thought of Kirk grabbing Uhura's boobs?


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        By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:39:44 on Dec 05, 2008

        I dont think this is a PR move from Mr Nimoy. I talked to him and he was really curious about the negativity expressed by some here at TrekWeb. I think he is being sincere and honest and I think we should trust his worlds about the new movie. Trust me, Mr Nimoy is a great guy and a very gentle man
        (well, I dont think I need to say that anyway).

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By: aquirius (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:24:48 on Dec 05, 2008



I appreciate Mr. Nimoy's comments. I hope he is right. I have been watching the original 6 movies of Star Trek with deep nostalgia this past week. Star Trek, even the first six movies had meaning and relavent to the world. I read about the ST6 script changes, and how contraversial the dialog was. They intended Uhura to say "You wouldn't want your daughter to marry one would you?" But she refused, so it was nixed from the script. That was such a racially inflamitory comment. But the writers wanted it in the movie as a commentary of our prejudice.

Those were the days when Star Trek had substance. The Next Generation movies and Enterprise were all about fluff and some entries had a pro-war message.

This new movie looks like it is geared toward teenages, someone called it Star Trek 90210. I hope this is not the case. Even if the cast is very young, it can still prove to be really entertaining.

Just remember Gary Mitchell's anidote about his first days at the academy, the cadets told him, "Watch out for Lieutenant Kirk, in his class its think or sink."
Gary also called Kirk "a stack of books with legs". Kirk wasn't aimless, he was ambitious.


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By: lowblow (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:45:13 on Dec 04, 2008

I'm immensely pleased that Mr. Nimoy took the time to address TrekWeb, but I'm also embarrassed that he apparently saw some of the nonsense on here.


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    By: Capricorn Two (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:03:51 on Dec 04, 2008

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    I'm immensely pleased that Mr. Nimoy took the time to address TrekWeb, but I'm also embarrassed that he apparently saw some of the nonsense on here.

    Life has, as you know, been always filled with commentary that is based upon the non-sense and the ridiculous. What has been posted here on TrekWeb - those who outrightly reject the film even before they have seen it - is derived from fear of change. That's natural. But here are some who just hate others' success and accomplishments (i.e. Abrams & Co.) and will say and do anything to bring down others and taint the general euphoria of the audience. You will never change their minds. Your best course of action is to ignore them.

    I'm sure the Trek Community and the non-Trek audience will see what ST:XI is come May: a fun romp of a film that utilizes the best of STAR TREK and makes its own mark and impression in the canon.


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      By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:05:41 on Dec 05, 2008

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      Your best course of action is to ignore them.

      But verbally bitch-smacking them for their stupidity is so much more fun. ;-)

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        By: lnf3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:24:07 on Jan 11, 2009

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        Quote:Your best course of action is to ignore them.

        But verbally bitch-smacking them for their stupidity is so much more fun. ;-)


        Too bad Bermanites like yourself aren't witty enough to actually be able to do it. After all, if you had that kind of creativity, you wouldn't have supported 15 years of terrible Star Trek.


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By: msspurlock (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:11:38 on Dec 04, 2008 | Edit History (1)

...is in the tasting.
The more I see of this film, the more there is to like.
I'm excited at the whole prospect.

However, as much as I respect Nimoy's instincts, I'll wait for the finished product.

BUT I also won't badmouth it without having seen it.

And I won't automatically like it on somebody's say-so, any more than I would vote for someone because a celebrity tells me I should.

A lot can happen between rough cut and release, so to me it's still the proverbial "pig in a poke" as all films are, prior to release.

If the trailers are an accurate indication, though they seldom are, we are looking at a true restart of Star Trek. Not the so-so "franchise" of Berman, but the exciting, wonder-inducing original legend.

If they can pull that off, I might stand in my seat and cheer.


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By: Gothampunk (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:03:47 on Dec 04, 2008

With all the nonsense posted on here sometimes, it would not have been a shock for the website to be dismissed by Mr. Nimoy. That it is taken seriously enough to merit a message from him is in no small way due to your hard work, peacemaking and fair play. Hats off to you for this well-deserved recognition.

And a bow to an icon, Leonard Nimoy. Not since STTMP have I been so eager for a film. Ya hoo!


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    By: Grupp (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:03:01 on Dec 04, 2008

    There are 6 months of hand wringing left before we get the opportunity to see how Star Trek is going to be realized for my grandchildren. I introduced Trek to my kids early on and let the stories convey some wonderful ideals better than I probably ever could. TOS was and is still especially good at that, but then again I am heavily biased. I have, however, enjoyed something from all the series (and love reading the books). I look forward to carrying on the journey with the "next generation". Having been introduced to Mr. Abrams' work by my kids, I have incredibly high hopes for what he will put up on the screen. Hearing comments from Kevin Smith, and now Mr. Leonard Nimoy himself (who I am not about to dismiss for even a second) gives me further hope that the franchise that I have loved from the beginning is in good hands. There will always be naysayers and continuity whores who enjoy making a fuss, but in the end it really is easy to simply ignore them. I'll make my own mind up, as will my progeny, and I'll also wager the vast majority of you will - next May. I can hardly wait!!


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    By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 16:22:08 on Dec 04, 2008

    It was a pleasure to speak with Mr Nimoy and having him send a personal message to TrekWeb. What a gracious, beatiful gesture from his part. It was a honor to speak to this man who has been a hero to myself since I was a child watching Star Trek in the early 80s. A truly magic moment in my life and I just have to thanks Mr Nimoy again. And a thank you to all the TrekWeb community. You guys are the best.

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      By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:43:32 on Dec 05, 2008

      Nimoy rocks. And great work Gustavo for getting Nimoy to address Trekweb.

      I hope Nimoy's direct message to this online community will help to quell some of the childish back and forth that's going on here about the new movie.

      I'm really excited for this movie because it is offering a fresh direction for Star Trek. Abrams and his team have done a lot to address the fans (all of us) and I, for one, have appreciated it. Who knows if I will actually like this movie, but I am extremely hopeful and look forward to seeing a new audience embrace Star Trek. Star Trek is a wonderful optimistic concept and it deserves to have a broader appeal.

      Thanks to both Nimoy and Gustavo for this direct message to Trekweb. :)

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      awwwwww... HUGZ!!!!

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By: Irving Morrell (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:02:10 on Dec 04, 2008

Thank you Mr. Nimoy for the personal message.


And congratulations to the moderators here at trekweb. You have produced a fine website I visit everyday. Mr.Nimoy's message may be addressed to the crowd critical of the movie, but it also shows that trekweb has become an important speaking forum for Star Trek fans....


Gratulacje!!!


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By: sb2004 (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:16:25 on Dec 04, 2008

Between Nimoy's comments and that of Kevin Smith of a similar nature, I don't think there will be any doubt that this will be a good film. It's one thing to be critical on a technical level, but I do agree that those who seem to actively want this movie to fail, or who think it will suck because XYZ is not the same as it was in TOS (I've been critical to a degree from a canon-concern standpoint too, but I've never equated it with the film being bad by any means).

I think it's going to be a very good film. The question is whether the mainstream public and the fanbase will embrace it. And we won't know that for another 6 months.

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    By: BWilliams (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:54:34 on Dec 05, 2008

    Unfortunately, Smith's comments hardly qualify as "intelligent", since he has never had any experience whatsoever with Star Trek (and thank goodness for that!). Just goes to show what smoking too much weed will do to a person.

    Nimoy, on the other hand - that was awfully gracious of him to offer his thoughts on the new movie. His thoughts are right on target with Roddenberry's in wanting to see someone take Star Trek in a fresh direction.

    I'm not ruling out this new project, and so far I've been impressed with what little I've seen. I'm still not used to other actors playing familiar roles - but then again I've been used to other actors in equally familiar roles (Superman, Batman, James Bond, Tarzan, and the Star Wars prequels, to name a few). I for one am planning to reserve judgments until the film's release.


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By: dough (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:08:43 on Dec 04, 2008

The one thing about Star Trek has been that it has taught me to be open minded to new ideas.
The only complaint I've had is for more trailers and previews of this new movie, but I can be patient and wait until May.
I'd like to thank Mr. Nimoy myself for taking the time to post here, that was very appreciated.


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By: Kamen Rider Blade (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:04:03 on Dec 04, 2008

In the unlikely event of Mr. Nimoy actually seeing this comment, thank you, sir, for taking time out to address some of the fussiness that a certain segment of the users here continue to display.

I for one, can not wait for May, 2009 to get here to finally see what Mr. Abrams has in store for us. It should prove most interesting. :-)

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By: HotStove (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:03:58 on Dec 04, 2008

I'm not surprised that Nimoy and/or Paramount chose to post here. Remember, for every one person that posts here there are probably a couple dozen that don't. TrekWeb is not a fly-by-night Trek web site either: Back in the late 1990's, Ron Moore would host question-and-answer sessions concerning DS9 here that were phenomenally entertaining.

If nothing else, Paramount and Abrams recognize the power of the internet, and Mr. Nimoy's post is another cog in the P.R. machine. Nothing wrong with that - I like being catered to!

As to the veracity of Mr. Nimoy's post: Besides that infamously funny "Bilbo Baggins" video he put out in the 70's, I've never seen him do any bad work. From "Golda", to "Vincent", even "Three Men and a Baby", he seems to care about his craft. My $10 movie ticket says he's right, and I'm looking forward to this new "Trek", especially since he's involved.

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By: Ollie (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:00:29 on Dec 04, 2008 | Edit History (1)

I can appreciate LN's comments. But it actually makes me wonder why they were needed in the first place. And why the praise in his comments. Is there a bit of a nervous attitude forming amongst the top execs involved with the movie?

See... I am not a hater. I am an analytical observer. I find the attitudes to the movie to be WRONG on both extremes of opinions. If you are against the movie, usually you hate but without any real reason. If you love it, you also have NO real reason to love it... no one has seen shit about the actual feature length movie yet.

But as I said, I find the need for these comments from LN suspect. I certainly hope I am wrong. It is so hard to keep an open mind on this movie knowing who wrote it.

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    I can appreciate LN's comments. But it actually makes me wonder why they were needed in the first place. And why the praise in his comments. Is there a bit of a nervous attitude forming amongst the top execs involved with the movie?

    Your being paranoid.

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    Your being paranoid.

    [e]But as I said, I find the need for these comments from LN suspect. I certainly hope I am wrong. It is so hard to keep an open mind on this movie knowing who wrote it.[eq]

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By: SirTrekker (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:51:39 on Dec 04, 2008

Somebody buy that man a beer!

The fact that Leonard Nimoy was compelled enough to talk to the TrekWeb community directly regarding the rampant negativity doesn't put a certain segment of fans in a very appealing light. I admire his diplomacy; he is certainly a class act. If I was the one addressing the naysayers, I think I'd be much less forgiving. I just have too low a tolerance for uninformed yet deliberate narrow-mindedness.


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By: brett (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:16:57 on Dec 04, 2008

hopefully he and his wife are correct.


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    By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:41:56 on Dec 04, 2008

    *sigh*

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        By: SuperDave (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:27:14 on Jan 12, 2009

        That's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever read. Jeremy is the furthest thing from a troll on this board; he's been here nearly longer than any of us and is one of the most well-respected posters on Trekweb.

        Sounds like classic deflection to me.

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          That's one of the most ignorant comments I've ever read. Jeremy is the furthest thing from a troll on this board; he's been here nearly longer than any of us and is one of the most well-respected posters on Trekweb.

          Sounds like classic deflection to me.


          Again, I've been here since a year after Trekweb was created.

          "Most well-respected"? To who? The four people who call every voice of dissent "Shatnerbators" and "douchebags", then go high-five each other on Chronic Harlot's website at their cleverness?

          And again: he lost his credibility the day he said "William Shatner isn't an actor", then named himself after a character Berman CREATED. The fact she was one of the most wooden characters in Trek history makes it even funnier.

          I know you want to stick up for your buddy, but there's no way he can weasel out of that. But maybe he can just post the same picture 8,000 saying "I like William Shatner's balls in my face" as a retort. He did it many times before.

          The guy's a troller. Most of his postings are just drive-by postings of him saying "Shut the fuck up", or a stolen article and then he cowardly runs away.

          Just because they won't ban him, doesn't change those facts.

          Guess it's time for you four-or-five "You're criticizing the movie so you're a Shatnerbator!" desperados to go talk about how the 'majority of the board' is complaining about the movie, while simultaneously saying critical people are the minority.

          I swear, you guys are worse than Christians when it comes to false oppression.

          The reality is this: TOS fans get smacked down on Trekweb. Thus, most TOS fans aren't ON Trekweb. The vast majority of criticism of the new film, is on general entertainment sites. They're the ones that came up with Trek 90210, Brokeback Trek, etc.

          But you four-or-five guys won't go to THOSE places, because then the actual reality would come crashing down on you.

          So it's easier to just keep posting on a non-TOS Trek site like this one, tell people to "shut the fuck up" (without backing up your words), high-five your buddies on another site at your cleverness, and then complain how oppressed you are.

          This is nothing new, really. People who criticized the Star Wars prequels got the same treatment on Star Wars boards. So the Original Trilogy fans left those boards, too. I'm sure the Prequel Trilogy guys loved that, but it didn't change the reality: Prequel Trilogy fans are the MINORITY, and their movies SUCKED.

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      By: brett (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:13:03 on Dec 04, 2008

      why sigh?


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        By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 17:52:34 on Dec 04, 2008

        Because you're actually implying that LEONARD NIMOY doesn't know what Trek is.

        Or what good Trek is.

        That's "why" for heaven's sake.

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          By: brett (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:25:27 on Dec 04, 2008

          what does heaven got to do with this?

          really. i think you guys just took it the wrong way.

          i certainly hope that i like it as much as he did.
          (maybe that sounds better?)

          if i don't then im pretty sure that i will wake up the next morning to find that all of my star trek dvd's have not spontaneously combusted.

          i love leonard nimoy. them man changed my life.

          he also made me very frightened of big foot and u.f.o.'s.

          i do think that my reservations are based on a solid foundation. so his endorsment is encouraging. we will all have to wait until the movie comes out.

          there is nothing wrong with being open minded.
          im not going to like it out of some loyalty to star trek. if i like it then i like it.



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            By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 18:42:41 on Dec 04, 2008

            That your post displays anything BUT an open mind is telling indeed.

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By: Jean-Luc (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:01:07 on Dec 04, 2008

Frankly I'm very surprised this was sent specifically to Trekweb, but they say the squeakiest wheel gets the grease.

As someone else stated, I'm a little embarassed that someone of significance has read some of the flaming comments around here regarding a film no one here has seen yet.

We don't have the influence of Trekmovie, so I feel like we're bees in a hive that someone has cracked open and looked in on.

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By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:24:00 on Dec 04, 2008

Come on. Where are you?

Where are you now that Leonard Nimoy, a man who has not only breathed life into an iconic Trek character, but breathed life and his creativity to the majority of the TOS film franchise. A man who has enough respect for Trek and his character to not take roles as Spock in material that was beneath either has praised Quinto.

Has praised the film.

Has signed off on what will probably his last outing ever as Spock with the sense that the film franchise is in good hands.

And has actually come HERE to do it.

Now what will you say? Come on. Tell the man he's wrong to his face. Tell him he has no clue what Trek is. Come on, tell the man.

Where are you all now?

PS--meant to post this new and not as a response to CH...though it still works both places. :)



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By: Locutus (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:14:40 on Dec 04, 2008

I'm embarrassed to think that Nimoy actually reads some of the comments posted on here. Even for the nay-sayers, Nimoy's involvement is definitely a plus.

I always thought Spock, even more-so than Kirk, was the core of the franchise. And certainly, Leonard Nimoy is more of an artist than the Shat. I can't wait to see him don the ears one more time.

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By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 11:14:21 on Dec 04, 2008 | Edit History (1)

So to all the whiny mouth-breathing haters: you may now shut the fuck up.

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    By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:15:16 on Dec 04, 2008

    Your carefully reasoned and ably argued replies always crack me up.

    After watching the two trailers, I think Tom Cruise just might have been a better choice to play Kirk in this Saccharin Trek that JJ seems to have produced.


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      Stop using the word "reason". You dont know what it means.

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        Like your "shut the fuck up" comment shows reason?

        And once again, are you going to MAKE him stop using that word? Or are you just going to back down like you always do?


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      "After watching the two trailers, I think Tom Cruise just might have been a better choice to play Kirk in this Saccharin Trek that JJ seems to have produced."

      And that comment pretty much illustrated why Nimoy felt the need to defend the film.


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    By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:20:47 on Dec 04, 2008

    Come on. Where are you?

    Where are you now that Leonard Nimoy, a man who has not only breathed life into an iconic Trek character, but breathed life and his creativity to the majority of the TOS film franchise. A man who has enough respect for Trek and his character to not take roles as Spock in material that was beneath either has praised Quinto.

    Has praised the film.

    Has signed off on what will probably his last outing ever as Spock with the sense that the film franchise is in good hands.

    And has actually come HERE to do it.

    Now what will you say? Come on. Tell the man he's wrong to his face. Tell him he has no clue what Trek is. Come on, tell the man.

    Where are you all now?

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      By: Landru's Ghost (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:10:45 on Dec 05, 2008

      Sorry, we're too busy facepalming at the hate all the SUPPORTERS of the new movie spew against those who will never accept this abomination as Trek. Go ahead, tell us we don't matter and to shut up again. Tell us we're not real fans. Tell us we're embarassing. Never once stop and think that those peopleyou are flaming think the exct same things about you, they're just in the minority here.


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        Sorry, we're too busy facepalming at the hate all the SUPPORTERS of the new movie spew against those who will never accept this abomination as Trek.

        It's not hatred. It's that we're all just really fucking beyond sick of hearing the same exact bit of whining from the same handful of you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... every single god damn time a story even remotely having to do with the new movie comes up. Case in point, people have been bitching for how long now because, OMG, how dare J.J. Abrams not have Shatner (who agreed to kill off his version of Kirk 14 years ago) in the movie? I mean, seriously folks, we get it. You'd prefer Shatner be in it. You don't need to keep bringing it up.

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        You are. Completely condemning a movie that won't be out for another five months because Shatner isn't in it, or because the bridge is lit too bright, or the warp nacelles are all wrong, or because Chekov has curly hair instead of a Davy Jones wig, or because scene _ of the _ episode of season _ "clearly" shows that _ couldn't possibly have happened, or whatever other petty bullshit the naysayers have latched onto to "justify" their hatred of a movie that they haven't seen and that, again, isn't out for another five months. It is all of you who are perfectly displaying why the world generally views Trekkies the way that it does.

        [eq]Never once stop and think that those people you are flaming think the exct same things about you.[eq]

        Well, of course they do. Because, you know, it's those of us who are open-minded enough to actually give a movie we've never seen a chance before praising or condemning it(whichever it ends up deserving) who are clearly the ones being foolish. *rolls eyes*

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          By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:52:58 on Dec 06, 2008

          Have I ever told you how awesome you are, Kamen?

          Come hang out with us over on ST(R), dude. You'd fit right in. :)

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            Have I ever told you how awesome you are, Kamen?

            Come hang out with us over on ST(R), dude. You'd fit right in. :)


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        By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:34:16 on Dec 05, 2008

        "Sorry, we're too busy facepalming at the hate all the SUPPORTERS of the new movie spew against those who will never accept this abomination as Trek. Go ahead, tell us we don't matter and to shut up again. Tell us we're not real fans. Tell us we're embarassing. Never once stop and think that those peopleyou are flaming think the exct same things about you, they're just in the minority here."

        Come on, man--the bile spewed to date has, by and large, been spewed by those bashing Abrams and the film without having even seen it. It's not the film's supporters that have made the boards here so negative that Mr. Nimoy felt the need to come here and defend it--it's those crying incessantly about Abrams raping their childhood, and Shatner being lied to, and canon this and canon that, and blah blah blah blah, someone get me a violin. Now, I agree that people shouldn't be telling you to shut up, as you DO have the right to your opinion--but calling a film YOU'VE NOT YET SEEN an abomination is ridiculous and absurdly melodramatic.


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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:04:13 on Dec 04, 2008

You're the man, Mr. Nimoy. Thanks for creating such an immortal character, and for everything you've done for Trek.


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By: Logic Incarnate (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:48:06 on Dec 04, 2008

Its really touching to see this, thankyou Mr Nimoy.

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By: Bean (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:34:52 on Dec 04, 2008

This is priceless. Nimoy himself addressing the whiners lol. I mean, he's the man, and he actually took the time to address the negativity and the doubts about the new movie being expressed here.

On the other hand, does it not tell you all something that Nimoy needed to address us here personally at all?

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    By: Tupperfan (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:49:06 on Dec 04, 2008 | Edit History (1)

    Well, dude, here's my spin-doctor op at work. Every body should thank me, and I can't wait for the bonus I'll get with JJ's next check!

    I had no choice, that's what happen when you take a lil' vacation!

    Seriously, I always have a little doubt when an actor needs to send a "personal" message to a fan forum, but I guess it's plausible. Trekweb has history, not only as a big Trek message board, but also as a place where there's a lot of anger and whining, which might affect Paramount's marketing of the movie within certain circles.

    I don't think they still can afford to lose the fan base...

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      By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:50:29 on Dec 04, 2008

      It certainly wouldn't be unprecedented. RDM used to hang around here in the DS9 days, as has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread.

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        By: Bean (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 17:57:44 on Dec 04, 2008

        Yeah, but RMD isn't all he's cracked up to be. DS9 wasn't really that good, it certainly wasn't good Trek. And BSG is as overrated as it overhyped. So just because he hung around this site doesn't mean anything. The movie is still gonna be a huge flop and isn't representative of Trek.

        Oops.. sorry, just filling in for Jim who seems to be remarkable quiet today...

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          By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:26:03 on Dec 05, 2008

          "DS9 wasn't really that good, it certainly wasn't good Trek."

          Well, I certainly respect your opinion, but personally, I consider it the best of the six series (Nana Visitor's over-acting aside).


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            By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:02:13 on Dec 05, 2008

            It's safe to say that Bean took a dive into a pool filled with Sarcasm and came out dripping with it. :p

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By: OV-101 (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:29:30 on Dec 04, 2008

I so cannot wait to see this movie! I am also excited to see Leonard as Spock at least one more time. It will be a great movie and I think I too will be saying the same thing after watching...."don't want it to end...".



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By: Blessedwith3 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:14:47 on Dec 04, 2008

Who knew?

That is so awsome..

Thank you Mr. Nimoy for your gift to us fans out here. Shalom!

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Thank You Mr. Nimoy | Report this post to moderator
By: timmer33 (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:13:36 on Dec 04, 2008

I know you wouldn't have done this film if it wasn't a quality script that had the important elements of Trek (from TOS) in the story. I am shocked sometimes at the pessimism diplayed by some TrekWeb users --- a *very* vocal minority --- toward a project that a discriminating actor/writer/director like yourself has endorsed. We all know that if it wasn't in the spirit of TREK, and if it didn't have a talented director at the helm, that you simply wouldn't do it.


To all the naysayers about this movie --- it's now time to WAIT until you see the film before you start saying negative things about it.

Thanks again Mr. Nimoy.

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    By: jurasturrel (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:20:07 on Dec 04, 2008

    Can't wait to see it. Mr. Nimoy has high standards as a performer and a lot of class. I don't think he'd come out of retirement if he thought the script was bad. I'll be there opening night!

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Thanks, Mr. Nimoy | Report this post to moderator
By: Terry212 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:08:48 on Dec 04, 2008

Many thanks to Leonard Nimoy. He doesn't need to tell us his WIFE is a tough critic....Nimoy's own decision to pass up Generations and to refuse appearances that don't advance the character give him a strong degree of credibility. I love that this movie was written around Nimoy specifically, which shows it wasn't merely stunt-casting....and I love that he still loves the fans and the character enough to come out of retirement. He is certainly a man whose presence and gravitas seem only to increase as he ages. Spock was always "wise," and how much easier is THAT to play at his current age and with the way his voice sounds these days.

Though I am a bit puzzled by some of the liberties that APPEAR to have been taken in Trek 11 that didn't need to be taken (chronology of Pike, Chekov being only a few years younger than Kirk, etc), these are relatively minor points and I'll get over it. Overall, the movie looks fun and generally in the spirit of the characters. I think anyone who goes on and on about how terrible this movie will be is just...an odd person. There's no way to tell this movie will be terrible based on the track record of those involved or anything revealed in the trailer. Some people just romanticize anything they saw in their youth to an unhealthy degree. If you think older versions of Trek are holy and can never be added to, stick with your old DVDs and enjoy them. That's you're right. To go on and on about how Abrams is the Antichrist, though, is just odd at this point. If people want to criticize the movie after its release, more power to them. There's a tiny chance I'll be ONE of them...but overall, the indications appear good.

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Thank You, Mr. Nimoy | Report this post to moderator
By: Beamer (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:04:56 on Dec 04, 2008

Thank you, Mr. Nimoy, for taking the time to send your comments regarding the upcoming film.

As a lifetime viewer (well, I was 4 in '66 anyway), I have literally "grown up" with the franchise. While I have not always been pleased with what has been produced, I have always been a supporter of the genre of Star Trek.

With this new movie, some changes will commence. That is not altogether a bad thing. Your involvement in the franchise and specifically with this movie gives great hope that this will be both a respectful continuation and a vibrant beginning for a new era of what The Great Bird began so many years ago.

Thanks you, again, for caring enough to comment.

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Thank you, Mr. Nimoy | Report this post to moderator
By: JagMan (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:00:11 on Dec 04, 2008

And who are we to argue?

Now they need to let Mr. Shatner take a look.


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    By: Locutus (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:19:56 on Dec 04, 2008

    I don't want to hear the Shat's opinion on the movie. I fear his judgment may be clouded by his own hubris in not getting a part in the film. We all know Mr. Nimoy has "no ego to bruise," but the same cannot be said of the Shat.

    Especially in light of his most recent tirade against Mr. Takei, the Shat's judgment just seems way out there in left field these days.

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