Loving the alien.
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another lost post...
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Of course, this is just my immediate impression, but it seems they gave this crew a more 90's TNG look--with the hairstyles, the uniforms and maybe even with the lighting. It's much more "familiar"-looking anyway. Compare these to the photos and trailer footage we’ve seen of our heroes.
What we know is the Kelvin is from a generation before Kirk and their scene kicks off the movie. So this could be a pretty cool way of starting us all out with a familiar feeling and then, when the timeline gets screwed up, we fast forward to a 2008 modern but "unfamiliar" look--for Trek.
If it holds true, that could be a very clever way of segueing to a new vision, if only in a stylistic sense; a vision which ironically depicts a time period from before the retro look of 1966 Trek.
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Of course, this is just my immediate impression, but it seems they gave this crew a more 90's TNG look--with the hairstyles, the uniforms and maybe even with the lighting. It's much more "familiar"-looking anyway. Compare these to the photos and trailer footage we’ve seen of our heroes.
What we know is the Kelvin is from a generation before Kirk and their scene kicks off the movie. So this could be a pretty cool way of starting us all out with a familiar feeling and then, when the timeline gets screwed up, we fast forward to a 2008 modern but "unfamiliar" look--for Trek.
If it holds true, that could be a very clever way of segueing to a new vision, if only in a stylistic sense; a vision which ironically depicts a time period from before the retro look of 1966 Trek.
I actually thought these new screen shots have a more TOS feel to them with the shadowy lighting. One of the guys even has that 60s Brylcream haircut. They even have a TAS feel with the weird alien on the bridge like in TAS. heh Even the Kelvin itself more closely resembles the TOS starships.
Really curious to see this.
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He posted one too many,
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people casting for trek seem to mix up ethnicity a lot...
examples:
british actor playing the french captain Picard
Chinese actor playing Korean Ensign Kim
Korean actress playing Japanese Ensign Sato...
..Korean actor playing Sulu (whom we always assumed was Japanese)
probably more that I can't think of right now....Canadian Shatner playing American captain Kirk doesn't really count...different nation yes, but not ethnically different
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Don't forget all those humans who've been portraying Klingons for all these decades.
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Sulu was meant to be Asian, no specific nationality. George Takei is of Japanese descent and John Cho is Korean by birth. Roddenberry's original vision of Picard sounds a lot more like John Rhys-Davies than Patrick Stewart.
If you *really* want to quibble, Kirk is an American with kind of a Scots-Irish last name being played (in the original series) by a French-Canadian actor of Ukrainian Jewish origin. In your view of things, it might "count" a lot more than you realize.
Or, you could just calm down and enjoy the performances of these fine actors, no matter what their ethnicity.
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William Shatner is not a French-Canadian, he is an Anglo-Montrealer. He does apparently speak french (never heard him), but that's definitely not his first language...
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people casting for trek seem to mix up ethnicity a lot...
This is not really a revelation. Producers of films cast the best actors who LOOK the part of the character they want. As to whether the actor's actual ethnicity matches is completely irrelevant. In addition, such things as calling out Patrick Stewart playing a Frenchman? We know his parents are of French heritage, including the vineyard. But for all we know him and his brother could have developed their english accents from schooling, tutors or a 24th century influx of British transplants to France that lived next door? Have to use your imagination and quit nitpicking so much..
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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I used to know a German girl in her 20s who spoke English with a perfect London accent. For a long time I assumed she was British, until she was talking about visiting her family. Turns out she went to college in the UK and absorbed the accent.
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while everyone's argueing over his ethnicity, no one noticed he's a captain and wearing a blue tunic!
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LOL, maybe they revolve the colors every era:
Kelvin Era:
Blue-Command
Gold-Medical, sciences
Red-security, enginering
TOS era:
Gold-Command
Blue-Medical, sciences
Red-security, enginering
TNG era
Red-Command
Gold-security, enginering
Blue-Medical, sciences
I bet that Alnschloss K’Bentayr belongs to the same species as Lt. Arex form Star Trek: The Animated Series (TAS).
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Reed: What do you think of T'Pol, hmm? Do you think she's pretty? I think she's pretty.
Trip: Oh, God.
Reed: You ever noticed her bum?
Trip: What?
Reed: Her bum. She's got an awfully nice bum.
Trip: To Subcommander T'Pol. (toast)
Reed: Awfully nice.
I love how you guys assume that because the character is born in Cuba, that he simply MUST be of Cuban descent! Did you ever think that maybe his parents moved to Cuba and gave birth to him? Can you say with certainty that "Robau" is spanish, as opposed to Persian or some other middle eastern name?
And with all of that said, he could have been simply saying that he is the first ACTOR of middle eastern heritage to play the captain of a Starship. Think people.
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-- Steve
"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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His nationality is Cuban. Regardless of whether he is of Middle Eastern descent, he is still Cuban. The point some people are taking issue with (though I don't necessarily agree with it myself) is that the film-makers haven't openly revealed him to be Middle Eastern. Whether his family line was, at some point, Middle Eastern is a nonentity and isn't relevant to this discussion, because the point of contention here is whether or not the studio are playing it safe and using a more neutral nationality, and whether they're not willing to take a risk and openly state that Robau is from a Middle Eastern nation.
And on that note, how about you think more carefully before you call people retarded, in case some of us happen to put you into that category as well?
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Good point, the same way there's people of various origins in most occidental countries...
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I see what you're saying regarding the filmmakers intentions...but my point is that he's already middle-eastern...I just don't see the logic in making him cuban if for no other reason than that it's a 'safer' ethnicity or that he somehow looks cuban
I think it would've been fine to leave Robau as an middle-eastern person...the decision to make him cuban, cheapens the integrity of the character
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I think it would've been fine to leave Robau as an middle-eastern person...the decision to make him cuban, cheapens the integrity of the character
It probably would have been fine to portray Robau as a Middle Eastern character - but for one thing, there was never any definitive proof that he was going to be that way in the first place, only rumours, so criticising the film-makers for not following through with something that we really don't know was their intention in the first place is pointless.
Furthermore, I don't understand how Robau's being Cuban "cheapens the integrity" of the character. We're looking at a united Earth in the 23rd century, so if you're saying that his being Cuban somehow makes him ethically grey, that doesn't stand up in the world depicted in Star Trek.
What's up with the helmsman? Is he moonlighting as a Time-Life operator? :)
It reminds me of some of the Federation Council aliens in Voyage Home.
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There was a pretty cool pic of the hangar bay, with shuttles very reminescent of TOS shuttles.
I, like the posters below, think they went for a Where No Man Has Gone Before look.
Looks promising!
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Am I remembering correctly...at 1st when the captain of the Kelvin was cast, weren't some saying he was the 1st Arab starfleet captain...
...I guess that was wrong...he is the 1st Cuban starfleet Captain...
Is he also the 1st Captain from a former Communist country? (I'm assuming in 200+ years Cuba doesn't have a communist government anymore)
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Am I remembering correctly...at 1st when the captain of the Kelvin was cast, weren't some saying he was the 1st Arab starfleet captain...
...I guess that was wrong...he is the 1st Cuban starfleet Captain...
Is he also the 1st Captain from a former Communist country? (I'm assuming in 200+ years Cuba doesn't have a communist government anymore)
One would assume. It's clear though that the future United Earth economy is neither communist or capitalist, but some sort of mix or something completely different altogether.
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There once was a man named Scorned,
whose posts were more offensive than porn.
He posted one too many,
got kicked out on his fanny,
and all the while he had been warned.
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Am I remembering correctly...at 1st when the captain of the Kelvin was cast, weren't some saying he was the 1st Arab starfleet captain...
...I guess that was wrong...he is the 1st Cuban starfleet Captain...
Is he also the 1st Captain from a former Communist country? (I'm assuming in 200+ years Cuba doesn't have a communist government anymore)
Unless you count "Captain" Chekov from STV... but I'm still waiting for someone to start the age-old argument about whether the Federation IS a communist government.
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I like the 3-D exterior tour of USS KELVIN feature on the Web site. More that I see of the KELVIN - more than I like the balanced design. I appears the bridge has a window as opposed to a view screen (not sure, though) and the phaser turrets or cannons are retractable (again, not sure by the image).
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Thats because it is a window.. the Enterprise has the same feature, with data that appears on a transparent overlay of the window inside the bridge. If you look at the image of Spock standing in front of it with his hands behind his back, you can see the top of the saucer and NCC- number out the "viewscreen" window.
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-- Steve
"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
I like the contrast of the guy who played the main terrorist in Iron Man now being a Starfleet captain.
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From these photos, I wonder if they might look more like "The Cage" in terms of coloring and general styling (not the turtlenecks, obviously).
One second there's no news, and the next there is!
That's a pretty cool looking alien.
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