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By: YodaOldBoy (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:56:27 on Nov 12, 2008

Star Trek novels have never been considered canon (or with two n? think it's one... anyway) and if JJ's movie really is a reboot, I think it'd be a really good opportunity to make the new novels canon. The Star Wars novels are with the Expanded Universe and it's really cool to know you're not reading just someone's 'take' on the characters but their real story (yes, I know it does remain fiction :P). So if they could name someone in charge of the continuity, they could, just like Star Wars, create a tightly controlled official Expanded Universe with the new cast on the covers (ie. Quinto and Pine). Anyway, I do believe that, unless the story is specifically designed as a sequel of the new movie universe, the original crew will remain on covers (ie. Nimoy and Shatner).

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By: Aaron (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:02:50 on Nov 12, 2008

I'm betting, based on comments made by Marco Palmieri at TrekBBS, that aside from a direct novelization, the folks at Pocket Books will be staying away from JJ's take on things.

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By: TrippingOverGod (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:57:49 on Nov 12, 2008

Interesting choice for the cover - it's Nimoy Spock rather than Quinto Spock. By June, the new film will be a month old, surprised they aren't altering the book covers to reflect the new crew, it's not as if the content of the books can specifically set themselves apart from the original series crew as opposed to the film crew.

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  By: Scottrek (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:02:35 on Nov 14, 2008 | (1)

  Interesting point, but I, for one, am not surprised at all by the decision...I'd be more suprised by the reverse. As President-Elect Obama has reminded us, "there can be only one president at a time." The sentiment is also valid vis-a-vis the TOS cast(s), I think.
  
  The figurative "transition of power/changing of the guard" betweeen casts can really only happen after the new cast is "sworn in" by popular consensus (translation: box-office bucks).
  
  Even if the movie makes a ton of money, I share the thoughts of one poster below who believes Pocket Books won't really alter their current book lines for this. After all, the younger demographic Abrams is going for aren't the people who read the books, right? I imagine Pocket books aims to target readers already faithful to the Star Trek brand, who identify the original character likenesses/actors with this brand. Zachary Quinto may indeed be great as the new Spock, but he's not "my" Spock, and the original torch-bearer is still living! I could see Pocket Books changing their tune a few years down the line when the original actors aren't around anymore and Trek has been completely rebooted in the cultural consciousness--in other words, when people identify Kirk more with Pine than the Shat.
  
  I could see them spinning off an entirely new set of books (similar to the "Expanded Universe" concept posted below, or Marvel's Ultimate Universe) and just treating each line as a separate take on the same francise, with one catering to newer fans. I've no trouble with multiple continuities, etc. and actually think it's good for keeping a property fresh.
  
  I will say that, as a long-time fan (I began my Trek journey in '82 at age 6!) I find the prospect of revamping covers to reflect cast changes NOW to be too market-driven and even a bit disgusting on a human level. As one of my favorite sayings goes, "Hold your horses, folks." She ain't even out of the gate yet. Let's have the new cast walk around in the shoes of our favorite characters for a bit, THEN give them the reins.

  
  

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  By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 11:08:39 on Nov 12, 2008

  I was thinking the same thing - I dont think Pine and Quinto will replace Shatner and Nimoy and the original actors on the covers of novels or even in the comic books. It still will be the original Star Trek timeline look in those publications.
  
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    By: Omne (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:08:45 on Nov 12, 2008

    I agree, their look is iconic, especially Nimoy's Spock. Maybe if the movie (or movies) are successful you might see a migration to the new actors.

    
    

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