Looks to me Nero's ready to fight in the UFC.
I see what you're talking about. But I find it highly unlikely that they would release so obviously unconvincing makeup as part of the first wave of images from the movie.
Two possibilities come to mind: 1. Nero is the victim of some accident that required skin grafting. 2. The "skull cap" is actually part of his Romulan wear... a variation of the gold Centurion helmet seen in TOS.
how come nero looks more vulcan?
he dosent have the romulan brow or the pasty pale skin
then again why di the romulan ambassodor in st 6 not look like the modern/tng rommie? st6 and tng were on at the same time rite? does this mean the klingons will look like the crappy tos kind? uugg
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how come nero looks more vulcan?
he dosent have the romulan brow or the pasty pale skin
then again why di the romulan ambassodor in st 6 not look like the modern/tng rommie? st6 and tng were on at the same time rite? does this mean the klingons will look like the crappy tos kind? uugg
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how come nero looks more vulcan?
he dosent have the romulan brow or the pasty pale skin
then again why di the romulan ambassodor in st 6 not look like the modern/tng rommie? st6 and tng were on at the same time rite? does this mean the klingons will look like the crappy tos kind? uugg
I prefer the TOS idea of Romulans looking just like Vulcans. Being indistinguishable means they can be infiltrators, etc. I thought the TNG idea of adding a ridge was a poor one. It was cool in TOS when you could say "are you a Vulcan I can trust, or a dirty Romulan spy?" You could also think that Vulcans were liable to go Romulan-evil at any moment because they were the same except for some mediation techniques. ;) I'm fine with going back to that and pretending the ridge never existed. They never really commented on it in TNG; they just added it.
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I guess it was Berman's way making the Rommies look less evolved or more primative in comparison to the Vulcans. Like the Caveman look (not a Geiko plug). That's one thought I had.
These images are getting thrown out so fast that it is hard to take it all in. I am pretty impressed so far. The only think I don't like about Nero is that he reminds me too much like Shinzon from Nemesis. Bad flashback, man....
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I have to agree that the addition of the Romulan brow ridge was a poor choice. Made no sense.
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how come nero looks more vulcan?
he dosent have the romulan brow or the pasty pale skin
then again why di the romulan ambassodor in st 6 not look like the modern/tng rommie? st6 and tng were on at the same time rite? does this mean the klingons will look like the crappy tos kind? uugg
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how come nero looks more vulcan?
he dosent have the romulan brow or the pasty pale skin
then again why di the romulan ambassodor in st 6 not look like the modern/tng rommie? st6 and tng were on at the same time rite? does this mean the klingons will look like the crappy tos kind? uugg
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TNG was on during the releases of STV and STVI, but the TOS movie series was produced by completely different people who had nothing to do with TNG. There was some crossover, but not much. The makeup people were different.
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You know, in this photo, Urban looks a lot like Gary Mitchell.
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I have the feeling this story is a blend between DS9's "Valiant" (you know the episode with the kids from Red Squad trying to act like adults on a ship behind enemy lines. Awful episode if you ask me!) and VOY's "Year of Hell" (A Krenim temporal ship is manipulating time to restore their empire. An OK two-parter with a seasoned "baddie" at least, he was basically longing to get his wife back).
Urban NAILS the McCoy look! I had some serious doubts about him int he role, but he looks fantastic here. This just might be my favorite of all the photos so far released.
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interesting how the two photos so far of Nero have him all brooding, looking ahead, one fist clenched, the other holding onto that staff.
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interesting how the two photos so far of Nero have him all brooding, looking ahead, one fist clenched, the other holding onto that staff.
I'm disturbed that the back half of his head is obviously a baldcap. Why didn't they make that the same color as his face/forehead? It's so obviously fake. I mean, it's a really good Halloween costume, but NOT a really good film makeup job. I'm hoping that they CGI something in there and that the final product will look less fake.
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I agree with those below. Your pessimism has taken over, I'm afraid. He shaved his head for the part (not that there's not prosthetics anyway). I think maybe what you're seeing--in that first picture and not this one because you can't even see the back of his head here--is a tattooed line on the side of his head. That might make it look like a line where the "baldcap" begins and ends (though for the life of me I don't see why you'd ever need half a baldcap).
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I agree with those below. Your pessimism has taken over, I'm afraid. He shaved his head for the part (not that there's not prosthetics anyway). I think maybe what you're seeing--in that first picture and not this one because you can't even see the back of his head here--is a tattooed line on the side of his head. That might make it look like a line where the "baldcap" begins and ends (though for the life of me I don't see why you'd ever need half a baldcap).
Dude, I'm not pessimistic. I've been looking forward to the movie. You seriously think the only alterations done to Bana's head are pointy tips on his ears and the tattoos? No...the ears are part of a skull-cap. The tattoo starts on his real face and continues on Bana's skullcap. He shaved so that it would be possible to put the baldcap ON or because he didn't realize that they wouldn't just put EARS on his ears. Maybe they had to cover most of his head because it was hard to do the tattoo. See how in the late night talk show, there's a lot of 5-o-clock-shadow black hair growing in? But in the picture, there's not? See how he has VERY pronounced ridges above his forehead in the Trek picture, but not on the talk show. The whole look and shape of his head is different in those pictures, not to mention the color of his skin. I simply can't believe that all of you don't see it. It's not "pessimism," it's prosthetics.
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You must be a lawyer. If you know there are prosthetics involved, there are those who look for their fakeness. These are probably the same people who listen to the words of a song. Me, I just look at the picture, I just listen to the sound. I mean we all know it's faked. He's not REALLY a Romulan.
I still don't see the baldcap. I see a tattoo that may follow where a couple of prosthetics have been applied as creative coverup. If that accentuates a "flaw" for some, I guess there will still be many of us who will just look at the tattoo and think, "Cool tat. I bet that was painful."
Glad you're not pessimistic, though.
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You must be a lawyer. If you know there are prosthetics involved, there are those who look for their fakeness. These are probably the same people who listen to the words of a song. Me, I just look at the picture, I just listen to the sound. I mean we all know it's faked. He's not REALLY a Romulan.
I still don't see the baldcap. I see a tattoo that may follow where a couple of prosthetics have been applied as creative coverup. If that accentuates a "flaw" for some, I guess there will still be many of us who will just look at the tattoo and think, "Cool tat. I bet that was painful."
Glad you're not pessimistic, though.
Hahha. I'll give you points. I AM a lawyer. And I do listen to words of songs. I like words of songs. In fact, I write words to songs. (iTunes; ego tree). I'm not a "pessimist." I'm looking forward to the movie and I think Abrams was a good choice to run it. Really. I don't know why you don't believe me. I just said the makeup for Nero looks a little fake; to me, it does. That's all. I know he's not really a Romulan. Hell, I love the Gorn and that looks REALLY fake. It's just that Nero looks more fake than some of the TV Romulans or Star Trek 6 or something. No biggie. I'm excited as hell about the movie. I'm not one of these weirdo bitter people. I mean...sure, I'm a little nervous that an hour into it I'll be thinking, "ahhhh, these don't feel like the characters I know and love," but actually I think the casting was really well-done. There's one actor I preferred for Spock (the guy who played Brutus in HBO's Rome), but Quinto is a strong second choice.
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My brother's a lawyer and I've been having these fights (not that we're fighting} with him since was old enough to be cynical. Which in his case was quite young. :) I bet Nero will look very real when we see actual footage and not a couple of stills out of context. But--TV Rommies look more real than that picture of Nero above? Hmmm, indeed.
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My brother's a lawyer and I've been having these fights (not that we're fighting} with him since was old enough to be cynical. Which in his case was quite young. :) I bet Nero will look very real when we see actual footage and not a couple of stills out of context. But--TV Rommies look more real than that picture of Nero above? Hmmm, indeed.
Well, to ME, the TV Romulans or the ST6 Rom Ambassador looked more real. I am hoping that you're correct that through lighting or CGI, they'll smooth out the transition from forehead to plastic so that it's harder to notice on the movie screen. It's not like I don't have suspension of disbelief, but it's just a TINY distracting that I can see the line. It makes it like a halloween costume.
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(Aside) Your Honor, this witness has not offered adequate credentials as an expert on Romulan physiology, nor on set lighting, nor on makeup, nor on Halloween costuming of the twenty-first century. He will if asked, I believe, ADMIT that he has not seen this character in it's context, that is, in motion picture form, nor under testimony, which you could demand, has he had occasion to study the differences between still and motion photography and the effects thereof on perceived fakeness in the motion picture makeup arts.
If that's the prosecution's case, I move for a mistrial.
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(Aside) Your Honor, this witness has not offered adequate credentials as an expert on Romulan physiology, nor on set lighting, nor on makeup, nor on Halloween costuming of the twenty-first century. He will if asked, I believe, ADMIT that he has not seen this character in it's context, that is, in motion picture form, nor under testimony, which you could demand, has he had occasion to study the differences between still and motion photography and the effects thereof on perceived fakeness in the motion picture makeup arts.
If that's the prosecution's case, I move for a mistrial.
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THat's only because you're not a lawyer. Direct observations are admissible, and a mistrial's not easy to get. Joking aside, I hope you're not saying that I need to be a makeup artist to say something looks a little fake. I've been pretty relaxed about this, saying I hope it looks better than it does in the photos, but my understanding is that these are OFFICIAl promo photos and I can see the bald cap. I can't recall being able to see anything like that in the prior 10 Star Trek movies.
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I hope you're not saying that I need to be a makeup artist to say something looks a little fake.
Certainly not. As you directly observed, I'm no lawyer. But I am willing to stipulate that one need not be familiar with makeup to conclude Bana's appearance as a fictional alien is faked.
I do appreciate ALL your direct observations, including this new one that no Star Trek movie promo picture in the last 30 years has been as fake as this one, because it gives me a chance to be catty and you a chance to cement a relaxed remark for future ridicule. (And no, I'm not crazy enough to sift through all my old StarLog magazines to prove you wrong, so rest easy as the victor on that one.) :)
You know, you're one of my fav's on this site. We've had many thoughtful conversations, though your natural combativeness (and mine) shines though without much hindrance. So I hope we can still be virtual buddies. You're closest to my sensibilities, I think, this one aside.
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"I'm disturbed that the back half of his head is obviously a baldcap."
I'm disturbed that you think that to be true, even though Bana completely shaved his head for the film.
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