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Director Kevin Smith Compares New Trek Movie with The Dark Knight and Watchmen

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By GustavoLeao / 13:43, 19 September 2008 / Star Trek: Nemesis

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FirstShowing.net posted a new interview with director Kevin Smith (Clerks, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), in which he talks more about the new Star Trek movie, since he was given an early screening of an early cut of J.J. Abrams movie, as reported before. Here are excerpts of the article.
 
Smith was asked to compare the new Trek movie with The Dark Knight and Watchmen and here is what he said "Watchmen and Star Trek are amazing too, but Dark Knight, I think, it's just an imminently watchable film [...]."
 
"But man, those other two, Watchmen and Star Trek, come close. I mean, I'm not a huge Trekkie, so I'm not like, oh man, you must see this before you die. But for what it is, in terms of a reboot, he did a fantastic job with it. Because it sounded like, when they announced it, 'why do you want to go back and do little Kirk and little Spock?' But man he did it and it made it viable and it doesn't get rid of anything that it had before, it kind of makes way for the continuity, so it all fits in that world still. It doesn't negate the series, the series of movies, anything, it's all part and parcel with it."

The full article is here.



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By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:52:34 on Sep 20, 2008

Rayna wrote:
"you have absolutely no idea what I meant about the planned fanbased gigantic titanic sized boycott, which shall be forthcoming soon"

I wish the five of you luck. Perhaps you can get your group together with the "Daniel Craig Is Not Bond" boycott crowd and have enough people between you to play a game of baseball.


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By: The One (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:02:48 on Sep 20, 2008

If a cynic like Kevin Smith has nothing but good stuff to say about the new Trek, then that carries a lot of weight with me. Can't wait for next May!


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By: jimbtnp (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:09:42 on Sep 19, 2008

TDK? Great

an overrated bore fest


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    By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:37:47 on Sep 20, 2008

    You gotta love the American Idol crowd. A movie is a "borefest" when it doesn't contain enough exposions or light saber duels for their liking. This is the same kind of person who didn't know why 2001: A Space Odyssey was ranked higher than Star Wars on that 'Best Sci-Fi Movies of All Time' list a few months ago...

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      By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:09:47 on Sep 20, 2008

      Quote from cdydatzigs:
      You gotta love the American Idol crowd.


      Again, someone disses a movie, you spew ad hominem, without provocation.

      You, especially, are in no position to accuse others of limited awareness. You're at the bottom of the monkey-brain barrel.


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      By: Rayna Kapec (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:43:46 on Sep 20, 2008

      Then why are YOU being a part of the American/Australian/Canadian/etc/ Idol crowd thou protests so loudy about???


      When it comes to Star Trek there is no comparrison with that cheesefest Batman, my Gods what a campy series!

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        By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:13:11 on Sep 20, 2008

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        Then why are YOU being a part of the American/Australian/Canadian/etc/ Idol crowd thou protests so loudy about???

        I'm not.. in 7 years I have seen maybe 2 episodes.

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        When it comes to Star Trek there is no comparison with that cheesefest Batman, my Gods what a campy series!

        Yeah, if you recall... we were talking about the FILMS here, not the 1960s TV shows.

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          By: Rayna Kapec (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 16:33:29 on Sep 20, 2008

          Oh sorry I thought you meant that Adam West Burt Ward embarrassment!

          UNLESS IT WAS MEANT AS A COMEDY, IM NOT SURE....

          You know something?, I liked the movies "funny" enough, that had two very different (yet good!) actors play The Joker!

          :-)

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    By: DixonHill (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:17:15 on Sep 20, 2008

    TDK is one of the greatest films ever. You're opinion is welcome but it is that of a very very small minority. Most people have been stunned by the movie. I've seen it 8 times in theatre and counting...it's a cinematic orgasm beyond compare...


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By: Rayna Kapec (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 22:00:58 on Sep 19, 2008

and there shall be a huge boycott about this so calld tos trek reboot without William Shatner in it!

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    By: HotStove (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:39:54 on Sep 20, 2008

    To quote your esteemed Mr. Shatner...

    "GET A LIFE!"

    You'd better bring a book to keep you company while your one-man picket line shuts down Hollywood as we know it. Best of luck to ya. Take care. Don't let the turbolift doors hit you on the way out.

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      By: Rayna Kapec (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:57:49 on Sep 20, 2008

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      First off as a woman, a female Trek Leader I am deeply insulted by your calling it a "one-man" anything, and second, your a silly worthless moth of a man who perhaps should be crushed for such ignorant pre-judgment against me, as you have absolutely no idea what I meant about the planned fanbased gigantic titanic sized boycott, which shall be forthcoming soon @ the CBS/Paramount studios in particular against this so called "Star Trek" 11 movie!, but you shall hear! oh yes my precious one! We of the movement can assure you of that, but as for myself I will write no more for the present on this subject, as I grow annoyed at your foolishness, for you don't outrank me, and you don't have pointed ears!
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        By: HotStove (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 18:55:54 on Sep 20, 2008

        *yawn*

        You might want to start your anti-sexism crusade against William Shatner's most famous soliloquy, which ends like this:

        "...where no MAN has gone before."

        I think you're just ticked that you can never be a starship captain.

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    By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:06:29 on Sep 19, 2008

    "and there shall be a huge boycott about this so calld tos trek reboot without William Shatner in it!"



    Um...no. No, they're won't be. Any such effort will be as completely ineffective as the supposed boycott of Casino Royale, which had no effect on that film's success either.


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By: rassmguy (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:50:11 on Sep 19, 2008

For some reason, Kevin Smith's quotes about this film are the ones I look most forward to. I think it's because he seems the most sincere, having no personal stake in the film's success. When he dislikes another filmmaker's work, he makes no bones about it, so I tend to think he really is as enthusiastic about this one as he seems to be in interviews.

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    By: johncarpenterfan (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:29:30 on Sep 21, 2008

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    For some reason, Kevin Smith's quotes about this film are the ones I look most forward to. I think it's because he seems the most sincere, having no personal stake in the film's success. When he dislikes another filmmaker's work, he makes no bones about it, so I tend to think he really is as enthusiastic about this one as he seems to be in interviews.

    As much as I love Kevin Smith, it has to be noted that he is indeed a good friend of J.J. Abrams', which is probably how he got to sit in on a screening of it! Something to keep in mind when you're reading all this praise from him (although hopefully what he's saying is indeed from the heart and not just to "help a brother out"!).


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    By: Uroboros (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:33:36 on Sep 19, 2008

    OK..I'm going to go out on a limb here. Actually I take it back, if there is a a safer bet; take it. But the new Star Trek movie and The Dark Knight in the same sentence? I think not!

    I mean really..what else that JJ Abrams and/or his team of writers have done can compare to The Dark Knight? And we're suppose to believe that his Star Trek is suddenly going to be on that level? WTF..how long before someone compares the new Trek movie to the Second Coming?

    I know it's too early to say how good or bad the new Trek movie will be. But it seems that the people involved (and people like Smith) are trying way too hard to sell this movie to us.

    Oh it's right up there with "The Wrath of Khan", It compares to "The Dark Knight". It's right up there with Jesus AND Buddha. :)


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      By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:00:15 on Sep 19, 2008

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      I mean really..what else that JJ Abrams and/or his team of writers have done can compare to The Dark Knight? And we're suppose to believe that his Star Trek is suddenly going to be on that level?

      Well for one, Kevein Smith (who screened the film and has deep connections with the comic industry) made the comparison here, not Abrams and Co. Second, Smith was probably comparing them in the sense that Christopher Nolan's films are a wildly successful reboot of a Batman franchise that had gone astray. He prolly views Abrams' film as being so revolutionary in style (for a Star Trek film) that it could very well have the same effect. I don't think that is much of a reach at all.

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      WTF..how long before someone compares the new Trek movie to the Second Coming?

      There will be no Second Coming as Jesus died two millennia ago, remember? The only way he is coming back to life is in a comic book, a la Superman. :)

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