Quote from Simon Pegg:
There's a lot of little ironies in there that you'll pick up on if you know the series, and you know the mythology.
Lots of little ironies, eh, Simon?
But to Canada's National Post you're all, "It's an irony-free zone."
Liar, liar, pants on fire!!
;-)
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Quote from Simon Pegg:
I think that to suggest that we can't still get there is just kind of giving up.
No surprise that a comedian has a keen understanding of human nature.
The cynicism in question is from what a people feel about themselves and their immediate situation, not whether they see outsiders (foreigners) as agreeable. And people tend to wallow, seeking pastimes that resonate with their state of mind, for better or worse.
The gravest losses of 9/11 came afterward, as the homeland government increasingly looks upon its own mainstream citizens as though they are criminals.
"US citizens could be investigated without just cause under a new plan from the Justice Department ... these moves are about solidifying temporary powers that were put into place following the terrorist attack in New York in September 2001"
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Uh-oh. He used the word 'gritty'. Irrational Battlestar Galactica conflations to begin in 5, 4, 3, 2...
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The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on
my skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their
breath and disappeared, my heart went cold, and
only hollow rhythms resounded from within.
'Maybe, in the post-9/11 world, we're a little too cynical that this kind of world could possibly exist in the future. What do you think about that?"
What an idiotic question. The threat from communism in 1970 was far, far greater than the threat from terrorism today. Then we faced nuclear annihilation at a moment's notice. Today we face the same thing that every other civilization has faced since the dawn of time - random acts of violence. Are we really so soft that the remote chance of a few people being blown up causes us to be MORE CYNICAL than the very real chance of all life on earth ending in a nuclear fire?
If so then we don't deserve to keep going because it's survival of the fittest, not the whiniest.
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These days, I think "post-9/11" encompasses much more than simply the threat of terrorism. 9/11 is morphing into a symbol of a certain lost innocence, looming threats of environmental, economic, health and geopolitical natures, and America's generally diminishing influence in the world.
I feel you are right insofar as the actual threat of terrorism here at home (which is difficult for me to say, having been downtown on 9/11 and lost several friends and neighbors), but I think that one must consider that a) people's unreasonable fear of terrorism is largely the result of self-serving politicians and some in the media, thus not necessarily because people are "soft" or "whiners," and b) "post 9/11" means more that fears of terrorism.
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Obviously, JJ's Star Trek is going to have [his] stamp on it. It'll be contemporary, and gritty, but it'll be very much Star Trek. The bridge was the bridge, it was incredible, but somehow it didn't look like it was built in the '60s. The production design was so cleverly pitched, in that it was completely credible, but still very much like you'd expect.
We had advisors on-set the whole time. If we needed to know what happened on ... an away mission and only a certain amount of people went, then who carried the tricorder -- we got it all from the people that really know. And JJ was absolutely at pains to make sure that it's totally and utterly [right].
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These two excerpts further back up my theory that the new Star Trek will follow and respect the existing canon. The characters' back stories, relationships, names and events will all be true to what has already happened. Only the visual aspect of the TOS-era will be subject to a reboot. We will finally have a TOS-era that actually visually fits within the gap between Enterprise and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
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-- Steve
"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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These two excerpts further back up my theory that the new Star Trek will follow and respect the existing canon. The characters' back stories, relationships, names and events will all be true to what has already happened. Only the visual aspect of the TOS-era will be subject to a reboot. We will finally have a TOS-era that actually visually fits within the gap between Enterprise and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Well, gee, I think you're on safe ground insofar as characters' names and back stories go. After all, since the movie presumably falls before Kirk's command of the big E, there's not much to go on, anyway -- Other than Spock, TOS offered extremely little character background. We know a bit about Kirk (Iowa, the Academy, a brother), and next to nothing about the rest.
Events? I doubt there will be any reference to events in Enterprise at all. I could be wrong, but why would the writers go there? Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman have very little else to contradict, because we just don't know very much. That said, I would be surprised and amused to hear references to "Starfeet Control" and "the United Earth Space Probe Agency." And I'll eat my propeller beanie if there's a reference to WW III, the Eugenics Wars, Khan, or Voyager 6.
The visual look? I'm prepared to be blown away. Whether it "fits" between Enterprise and TMP, I guess that will be a subject of fanboy debate, Obviously, it's going to be recognizable in the context of TOS, but grittier. I can't wait!
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I think you're on safe ground insofar as characters' names and back stories go. Events? I doubt there will be any reference to events in Enterprise at all. And I'll eat my propeller beanie if there's a reference to WW III, the Eugenics Wars, Khan, or Voyager 6.
Which is exactly my point. I never said they were going to reference anything that has been seen already. I just said that I don't think they are going to violate any existing canon. "Canon" being anything that was seen on screen in the 700+ television episodes and 10 films. Canon can also be anything not seen on screen, but listed in official Star Trek publications like the Chronology and Encyclopedia. The reason why these count and the novels and comics don't, is because much of the information comes from Michael Okuda, Rick Sternbach and even Gene Roddenberry -- the very people who would have put such info on screen anyway.
This new film I believe will keep all of that intact with the exception of the visual style. As I have said before, I believe this new film will VISUALLY fit in more realistically with what we have seen from Enterprise before it and The Motion Picture after it -- on the timeline. The 1960s TV show look doesn't visually fit in whatsoever.
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-- Steve
"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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This new film I believe will keep all of that intact with the exception of the visual style.
Well, from what you've written, I guess you're really not going out on a limb with your theory then. Since we know the writers, Abrams and the actors all say they are going to be respectful. And since the movie is temporally placed in a period about which there is virtually no "canon." So I doubt anyone could conclude anything different.
But, as I've written, I'll bet the farm that this movie, and any subsequent production in the franchise. will never reference any of the fallacious future history of any Trek that's gone before. Why violate a conceit that this will be a portrait of our possible future?
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I'll bet the farm that this movie, and any subsequent production in the franchise. will never reference any of the fallacious future history of any Trek that's gone before.
There's no such thing as "fallacious future history" in sci-fi that accepts time travel.
The timeline you know and love may be the one that was born of "unnatural" temporal interference.
That story just hasn't been told... yet.
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They really do mean it when they say this film will be a bit darker and more gritty to reflect the times. What The Dark Knight did for Batman, this movie will do for the universe of Trek.
Wait until you see the new, enhanced tribbles... They will chill you to the bone!
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That's a thought. Vicious, redshirt maneaters!
How will I ever sleep at night.....
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"Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid."
-- John Wayne
"Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence."
--Dr. Leonard McCoy
"I'm a politician, which means I am a cheat and a liar, and when I am not kissing babies I am stealing their lollipops."
-- Jeffrey Pelt, The Hunt for Red October
"Liberals, Intellectuals, Peacemongers, IDIOTS!!!!"
- General Decker, Mars Attacks
"It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires, both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
- Q from Q Who
My bad, here's the correct Toronto Fan Expo link (not Polaris 22).
I don't see Pegg listed at the website, though.
Anyone who doesn't want to sign up with Hardcore Nerdity just to hear Pegg's interview can scarf the 27-megabyte MP3 file HERE (right-click and save).
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