She's venting. Must mean she's going through an early pon farr phase again.
In no am I saying this is what I think will happen or should happen, nor do I necessarily want it to happen; what if this is one big gag? What if The Shat does have some sort of cameo in it? For whatever reason they just want to surprise the viewers. I know it doesn't make sense to have a name like William Shatner in your flick and not promote it as such, especially with a role such as Captain Kirk, but one thing I noticed about the world we live in is that NOTHING makes sense these days.
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what if this is one big gag?
With the hundreds of millions of dollars invested into this film, would they be risking its image by a "gag" like this?
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For whatever reason they just want to surprise the viewers.
Someone, especially Shatner with his webcam, would have blabbed if he was in it. And if he was, what would be the reason to hide it? Maybe the simplest possibility is fact: we haven't heard anything because he is NOT in it. J.J. knows how to make a good film now, he isn't going to muck it up to make a minority of the die-hard fan base happy.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
...behavior in this thread, there is only one real question:
Who gives a flying f**k what Ms. Blalock thinks of the new movie or who is in it?
That is all, carry on with your 3rd grade playground BS.
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And dying to me dont sound like all that much fun...
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Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
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Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law
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Who gives a flying f**k what Ms. Blalock thinks of the new movie or who is in it?
Previous articles posted on this site were selected for the opinions of former Star Trek actors (e.g. Robert Picardo), or just to follow the current projects of franchise alum. There's a precedent for that type of "news."
As others here can recall, Jolene Blalock played a central character in the last Trek series.
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I know why Gustavo posts it, but that has nothing to do with why we should care what she thinks. She was a central character in the last show - one that had dismal ratings and was canceled early. So what?
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Growing up leads to growing old and then to dying,
And dying to me dont sound like all that much fun...
-John Mellencamp
Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law
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I know why Gustavo posts it, but that has nothing to do with why we should care what she thinks.
Examine your interrogatives.
If you do know why those type of articles are posted here, then you must know the larger "who" in "Who cares?" about franchise alum.
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I know why people pay attention to celeb gossip, too. That doesn't keep me from being quite positive that it's a bunch of crap. The childish, immature postings that have flooded this thread only serve to reinforce my position.
If Ms. Blalock was involved with the film and had access to the script and/or filmed scenes, then I would be interested in what she has to say. Right now she's just spilling BS out of her (admittedly perky) ass.
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Growing up leads to growing old and then to dying,
And dying to me dont sound like all that much fun...
-John Mellencamp
Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law
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That doesn't keep me from being quite positive that it's a bunch of crap. The childish, immature postings that have flooded this thread only serve to reinforce my position.
Did gossip about Trek alum ever warrant your antagonistic use of "Shatner-bater", for example?
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The childish, immature and stupid "teh movie will be epic fail without teh Shatnerz!" posts and threads which flooded this board for a while were ample reason for me to invent the term "Shatnerbater."
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Growing up leads to growing old and then to dying,
And dying to me dont sound like all that much fun...
-John Mellencamp
Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria.
The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law
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The childish, immature and stupid "teh movie will be epic fail without teh Shatnerz!" posts and threads which flooded this board for a while were ample reason for me to invent the term "Shatnerbater."
Note that those pissed responses from Shatner fans are typically launched at the film(makers), which is considered fair game in these forums. Meanwhile, the stalking Shatner-fan bashers will spontaneously launch into personal stabbing without provocation.
Which of these is the really stupid behavior?
Now with Blalock's pro-Shatner comment, the same knee-jerk peanut gallery is howling, "Who gives a flying f**k what Ms. Blalock thinks?", when there's nothing ridiculous about her opinion or the report of it here.
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Given that the film is still about 10 months away yet, and we've still seen virtually nothing, I'd have to say that the people having a hissy fit that the movie is definitely going to suck without the presence of William Shatner are the ones who are being stupid.
I will say, though, that neither behavior is necessarily mature (and I do admit that I've done my fair share of making remarks against the Shatner obsessed), but then, this is the internet. ;-)
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I'd have to say that the people having a hissy fit that the movie is definitely going to suck without the presence of William Shatner are the ones who are being stupid.
Dissing the film(maker) choices is fair game, even as a purely fanatical response.
It would be nothing less than childishly hypocritical for you to persecute others here for saying "Abrams word isn't worth a shit!", but then yourself turn around and righteously hiss "Blalock's word isn't worth a shit!"
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Hey, I learn from the best.....
And again, you're not cognizant of how you initiate the ad hominem assault.
This is part of your inability to learn even very common and basic things.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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...your immediate agenda is to assault members of this community.
Hey, I learn from the best.....
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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I needed a good laugh this morning.
Once again, instead of contributing to the site or participating in topical discussion, your immediate agenda is to assault members of this community.
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How do you expect us to take you seriously when we can't find ANY full-frontal nudity shots of you on the Internet?
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Hehe, I don't know what's more funny. That a Shatner apologist saw this article as a reason to come out of hiding and start posting again? Or that he titled his post "There you go..." as if Jolene Blalock was the final peice of the "why he should be in the film" puzzle, that we ALL needed to see to be convinced! I needed a good laugh this morning.
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"If a sixth Star Trek television series is ever realized, it will be set in the new universe." -- cdydatzigs, June 15, 2009.
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Shatner apologist? There's nothing to apologize for, since Shatner didn't do anything wrong. You should look up the word apologist.
Blalock's opinion is no more meaningful than anyone else's, but the fact remains that she has the same attitude many people are going to have, which is, "why the hell isn't Shatner in this movie?"
Abrams blew it on this one, and the Shatner debacle will be a shadow that hangs over this movie.
Of course, I doubt Abrams cares, since he has been using Shatner's name all along to promote his film.
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Abrams blew it on this one, and the Shatner debacle will be a shadow that hangs over this movie.
Sort of like how you (apparently) blew Shatner?
It has to affect more than a couple of people (i.e. yourself and Jolene Blalock) for it to be a "debacle".
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Abrams blew it on this one, and the Shatner debacle will be a shadow that hangs over this movie.
Sort of like how you (apparently) blew Shatner?
It has to affect more than a couple of people (i.e. yourself and Jolene Blalock) for it to be a "debacle".
You fall all over yourself to defend Abram's film, so by your own standards, you "blow Abrams". You're the last one to talk about anyone or anything, hypocrite.
Quote from Jolene Blalock:
If Leonard Nimoy is in it, shouldn't William Shatner be in it?
Alas, fair maiden, Abrams says Shatner didn't want just a cameo role.

Blalock at the New York Comic Convention, 19 April 2008
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How would Abrams know that Shatner didn't want a cameo role, when he never spoke to him directly? From an interview that came out well after Shatner was told (by NIMOY, not Abrams) that he wasn't in the movie? Abrams never even bothered to propose an offer or agenda that would include Shatner. He just lied and used his name. Whether Shatner would have said no to a cameo behind closed doors is irrelevant, since Abrams never bothered to even talk to Shatner. He didn't even have the balls to turn him down directly.
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Whether Shatner would have said no to a cameo behind closed doors is irrelevant, since Abrams never bothered to even talk to Shatner.
Public statements from Shatner and Abrams contradict that argument.
In at least one radio interview, I've heard Shatner say he spoke directly to Abrams "several times". And Abrams says, "[Shatner] said to me he didn't want to do a cameo."
This indicates they did speak about that specific issue.
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Now, now. Don't you know that it's lies. ALL LIES, I tells ye! ;-)
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Well, given the fact that the first role I have heard she is in is a straight to dvd sequel of a average scifi film.
Still, she did say that she has not read the script. WHAT!?
You mean that the guarded script should be sent out to every person who has ever worked on a STAR TREK series?
She does not appear to have paid attention to any of the interviews from the writers or Abrams or Nimoy as to why Shatner is not in it.
Still, she is nice eye candy!
Looks like someone is bucking for a "Boston Legal" guest role!
It's such common sense that pretty much anyone who knows anything about Star Trek will be asking the same question--why isn't Shatner in the movie?
That's because it's so obvious that he should have been in the movie that it's just what is expected. Dumb move Abrams. A lot of people besides her will be disappointed.
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Are you still here?
Common sense dictates that a man pushing 80 whose character already died on screen and was buried on screen isn't going to magically come back to life just to make happy a tiny subsection of fans that were going to see it anyway.
Paramount's doing a good enough job of trying to kill this franchise, we don't need your help.
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The whole Kirk is dead argument is one of the dumbest lines of thinking by the desperate Shatner bashers.
You are all regulars of this site. You know Nimoy is in the movie. You know the movie is about some guy time travelling back and trying to erase Kirk at different points in history, and you know that Nimoy/Spock is going to be travelling in different eras trying to stop Kirk from dying. Like it really is THAT hard to have Spock prevent the death in Generations while he's preventing other deaths of Kirk.
It's like some of you people are so desperate to stop Shatner from being in this movie that you are being purposefully thick in the head.
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The whole Kirk is dead argument is one of the dumbest lines of thinking by the desperate Shatner bashers.
You are all regulars of this site. You know Nimoy is in the movie. You know the movie is about some guy time travelling back and trying to erase Kirk at different points in history, and you know that Nimoy/Spock is going to be travelling in different eras trying to stop Kirk from dying. Like it really is THAT hard to have Spock prevent the death in Generations while he's preventing other deaths of Kirk.
It's like some of you people are so desperate to stop Shatner from being in this movie that you are being purposefully thick in the head.
Ok, I think I've stood on the sidelines on this one long enough.
I've said before that I don't really care whether or not Shatner is in this film, so long as his inclusion/exclusion serves the story that is being told. That being said, I agree with you that a scenario similar to the one you've described would be a reasonable way to erase Kirk's death in Generations.
My question to you is this: wouldn't such a scenario (as you have outlined) merely leave Shatner with a possible cameo near the end of the film? And if so, reports are that Shatner turned down a cameo...wanting a much larger role. If that is true, then what else was Abrams supposed to do? Risk ruining the story they have developed to resurrect a character, while beloved, died onscreen? Sorry, but I don't think so.
The problem here is that we don't really know what is going on. Both sides are talking but not really saying much. What's the truth? Who really knows? Maybe once the film is released, we'll find out what really happened. Until then, it's all pure speculation.
One more thing...and I'm not ripping on you personally, StillKirok...I'm really getting tired of people saying that Abrams lied about wanting Shatner in the movie and trying to work him into the story. This is the same crap that liberals have been saying about Bush and Iraq. I'm so over it!!! None of you know beyond reasonable doubt whether Abrams has lied about this! None of us really know what took place behind the scenes. You all are basing your opinions (as none of us have the facts) on what Shatner and Abrams have said. It's pretty clear to me that they have different opinions on the subject.
The bottom line is this: if Abrams offered to resurrect Kirk (as you've described) and offered Shatner a cameo and he turned it down, then it's on Shatner. Period! End of story! Let's move on!
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It's such common sense that pretty much anyone who knows anything about Star Trek will be asking the same question--why isn't Shatner in the movie?
Because Kirk is dead.
Perhaps you missed that film.
As for Blalock, I'd not pay much heed to the advice of someone who couldn't act their way out of a wet paper sack.
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Star Trek community says Jolene Blalock should mind her own business.
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What the hell is up with her lips in that photo?
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