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J.J. Abrams Defends His Secrecy Regarding the New Star Trek Movie

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By GustavoLeao / 16:24, 3 June 2008 / Star Trek: Nemesis

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According to a brief article at Jossip.com, Star Trek movie director J.J. Abrams finds himself at odds with rabid Trek fans who want to know "every gory detail about a movie that's still a year away."

He respects their hunger, but is convinced they are better off waiting until May 8, 2009. "Learning raw detail and experiencing that detail as it was intended are two totally different things," he says. "I would argue that not knowing those details in advance is a more refreshing way to live when it comes to entertainment."

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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:24:18 on Jun 06, 2008

Finally, a producer with the balls to stand up to the "gimme, gimme, gimme" internet fanboy culture. You're supposed to know about the movie when you experience the movie.


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It's the movie... | Report this post to moderator
By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:14:55 on Jun 05, 2008

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I bet the theatrical trailer is basically a two minute version of the movie and gives too much away... Trailers should now just feature specially shot footage or maybe cut scenes (or both).

That's actually less the trailer's fault and more the movie's fault. If all the good scenes of a film can be crammed into a 2-minute trailer? (see: Indiana Jones 4) -- then that means your movie is basically the one that should be faulted there...

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By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:37:28 on Jun 04, 2008 | Edit History (2)

Quote from JJ Abrams:
"I would argue that not knowing those details in advance is a more refreshing way to live when it comes to entertainment."


Ironically, Team Abrams ignore the Official Star Trek message boards to endorse the very spoiler-peddlers who'll print idle hearsay as fact.

You can't expect to lay with dogs but not get fleas, JJ. ;-)


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    By: Captain Aikens (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:38:04 on Jun 06, 2008

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    Ironically, Team Abrams ignore the Official Star Trek message boards to endorse the very spoiler-peddlers who'll print idle hearsay as fact.



    Sorry, but if it wasn't for J.J., I would disown everything "officially" Paramount at this point. Robert Justman passed away a few days ago and did the corporate goons at Paramount bother to post anything on the main startrek.com page?

    Of course not. Ever since they 'realigned' their interactive services division, the official website has been absolutely static.

    Does anyone remember when the page used to change on a daily basis? Paramount is squandering an amazing chance to keep fans excited and unified and instead seem to have washed their hands of it. The only thing they've managed to do is link it to the movie page.

    Once upon a time the site drew fans in and kept them up to date on events, be it Chase Masterson's latest album release or a treknology report on encrypted data streams, but now they treat it like a static archive and the few updates that do happen are never reflected on the site's front index page.

    In short, my growing resentment at Paramount for abandoning the site continues to color my perception of a once beloved franchise and the only counter to that is JJ's relentless enthusiasm.

    That, and the occasional rerun on Sci-Fi/Spike/G4 that reminds me why I fell in love in the first place.


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JJ is absolutely right | Report this post to moderator
By: JamesT (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:28:04 on Jun 04, 2008 | Edit History (1)

Nemesis, for example, was a bad film, but was made worse by the absolute and relentless dissection of the script prior to release.

Balls to a few impatient fanboys - they can wait and so they should. The film will be so much stronger for it.

JJ is spot on with his handling of this project and I have faith in his judgement.

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    By: Grupp (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:22:40 on Jun 04, 2008

    Yes, JJ is correct. Hold off on the details. I also agree that the trailer should be random clips, even out takes so nothing is given away. So many movies now are encapsulated within that 2 minute trailer, it is not worth going to see. Live and love the suspense.


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By: Captain's Blog (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:31:57 on Jun 04, 2008

I bet the theatrical trailer is basically a two minute version of the movie and gives too much away... Trailers should now just feature specially shot footage or maybe cut scenes (or both).

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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:38:45 on Jun 04, 2008

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Frankly, I ruined First Contact for myself by knowing too much about it.

BINGO. That is exactly why I find it so refreshing that J.J. is keeping the jist of Star Trek in a secrecy vault -- a privelage only Star Wars films previously enjoyed. Let's put it this way... waiting for the film in May of 2009 might be a good thing in that you don't want to be the guy who had the ending for Sixth Sense ruined for him. If this is eating at you gentlemen, take up a hobby or something to distract you. :)

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  • RE: What if you knew about the ring falling through his hand? | Report this post to moderator
    By: Captain's Blog (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:21:20 on Jun 04, 2008

    The Star Wars prequels trailers gave lots away. They might have gone down better if they hadn't.

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I fully agree. | Report this post to moderator
By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:08:30 on Jun 04, 2008

Nomore spoilers, thank you. And no need for spoiler warnings when there are no spoilers at all.


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Mystery Meals | Report this post to moderator
By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:26:46 on Jun 03, 2008 | Edit History (1)


Using the food analogy: There are spoilers, and there are appetizers. The former is generally haphazard filler, while the latter is designed to stimulate desire and complement the main meal to come.

Hearsay spoilers are whatever scraps that may be gleaned from a pan or dumpster -- random ingredients which might not be fully baked or properly garnished. They do not represent the completed entree or presentation.

The chef's (Abrams) appetizers can quell the feeling of starvation, whetting the appetite without ruining his feast's pièce de résistance.

Wishful thinking? Movie trailers are one appetizer dish.

Abrams has demonstrated he's a legitimate creative, something of a connoisseur at his craft. He's now also gatekeeper to the Star Trek franchise, with super-sizer access to the goodies vault. There's no practical limit to what he could cook up as fun finger snacks. There has never been more immediate and widespread (Web) multimedia access to popcorn-loving moviegoers.

Come on, JJ, think outside the "mystery box" which fascinates you so. ;-)


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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:54:55 on Jun 03, 2008 | Edit History (1)

He is absolutely right... movies are created to have their plots and stories delivered in a certain dramatic context. When you have little tidbits leaked and spoiled here and there, the rabid unknowledgeable fans misinterpret things and jump to conclusions. People can post on here saying certain producers and actors said this and that, to try and stregthen their argument.. "selling it" with hibrow vocabulary.. but what it comes down to is this. 'Star Trek' is JJ Abrams' project to make, not ours, and he has every right to want it delivered to us when it is actually FINISHED.. no matter how rabid a fan some may be. That's not deception, that's good art.

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Hook, Line, and Sinker | Report this post to moderator
By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:43:02 on Jun 03, 2008

Quote from Jossip.com:
He respects their hunger, but is convinced they are better off waiting...


Abrams doesn't respect that "hunger" when he uses it to bait fans for marketing schemes that advance his agenda.

Without an official go-to source, the thirsty fan will drink whatever koolaid is served by bloggers who seek a sense of power by their own celebrity as a seeming "insider". Walter Koenig recently panned the parasitic "blog personality". Aggressive gossipmongers can make their gullible readers believe there's no other credible source of news.

Get with the program, JJ. Create an informative (and fun) blog under Bad Robot auspices, otherwise just accept that you've already played a role in driving fans to gossip sites which spout hearsay with authority.


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By: sb2004 (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:16:35 on Jun 03, 2008

Good for Abrams, and for what it's worth, I agree with him. It is certainly a refreshing throwback to the pre-Internet age when spoilers were few and far between. We heard about a movie, read magazine articles a few months before, saw the film, and was pleasantly surprised. Occasionally a spoiler would leak out (pre-released reports of Spock's death in Wrath of Khan was actually the first example of a major "spoiler" I ever encountered), but most of the time you never knew what was coming.

Unfortunately we live in a different time now, one which has developed an entire culture in which spoilers are not just as much a part of the anticipation process as those magazine articles used to be back in 1980-81.

I've already heard some grumblings of the "what are they trying to hide?" variety, plus some have already confused the "code of silence" with the same sort of shorthand "we know this film sucks" that studios use by refusing to allow critics to see the film before release. And you know there are hackers out there who won't sleep until they managed to obtain a leaked script to post to their blogs and forums.

I'm not saying Abrams should cave and allow spoilers. In fact I hope he sticks to his guns till next May. I just hope he's ready for a pretty tough battle over the next 12 months.

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    By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 19:24:18 on Jun 03, 2008

    I disagree with Mr Abrams regarding spoilers on sites like TrekWeb, TrekMovie or AICN. I think spoilers are here to stay and I think we will see the entire script on the internet before the movie opens. Just a guess, of course. Lets wait and see how long he keeps his secrecy.

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      By: steveleenow (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 00:03:35 on Jun 04, 2008

      It would have been nice to have some "behind the scenes" footage along the lines of what Spielberg et al did for Indiana Jones - every few months new photos or a video from the set would be posted to the official site. Both movies are Paramount so hopefully we'll start seeing more on Star Trek as the production moves along and we get closer and closer to the release date.

      I don't want a leaked script but official photos and / or production diaries or something interesting would be fun. It could give some nice teases in regards to what is yet to come.

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        By: Jean-Luc (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:50:10 on Jun 04, 2008

        I've learned my lesson from reading in the paper that the Enterprise was going to be destroyed in TSFS and reading the GEN script ahead of time, but I agree there should be officially released not-so-spoilerish material.

        I think we will see some good stuff released (and leaked) and we probably would have seen some already if the release date was still Christmas. But since the film's almost a year away their schedule was pushed back six months. I have a feeling that come Christmas we're gonna get a few cool presents from JJ.

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          By: Dan1701A (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:42:41 on Jun 04, 2008

          I don't have a problem with J.J. holding back right now. After all, we're still a year away from the release date. I agree that it would be nice to have another trailer this summer and maybe another one at Christmas, but that would be enough for me.

          I think that spoilers were partly to blame for the box office failure of Nemesis. Yes, the movie sucked but the spoilers turned off a lot of people from wanting to see it before it ever came out.

          If nothing else, J.J. knows how to work the media.


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            By: steveleenow (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 11:24:12 on Jun 04, 2008

            and Paramount seems to be improving too - they did a good job on marketing both Indy and Iron Man, both of which are among this year's biggest money makers.

            I suspect we'll start seeing more "controlled information" on this project, in the form of official web videos, etc. as the year goes on, especially between the time of late fall till the date the movie opens.

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              By: Dan1701A (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:43:57 on Jun 04, 2008

              I don't think we're going to see much information aside from another trailer or two. It would've been nice if J.J. had filmed production diaries like the ones Peter Jackson did for The Lord of the Rings trilogy and King Kong and Bryan Singer did for Superman Returns, but he didn't (I'm assuming).

              Unfortunately, the internet has spoiled some of the magic of going to the movies, IMHO. Sometimes I long for the days when you were lucky if you saw a photo or two in a magazine before a movie came out. There are too many media geeks who try to find the smallest piece of spoiler material to get hits on their websites. It's sad. I'd rather go into a movie theater with a clean slate. As a result, I avoid most of the spoiler material as much as I can.


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By: VoR (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:10:04 on Jun 03, 2008

A new trailer would be nice though..... =)

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    By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 06:09:12 on Jun 04, 2008

    I thank Abrams for his restraint. I imagine that he can't wait to get this movie out to the fans and the general audience. For far too long ST movies have basically been released before their official release date, whether through the leaking of the transcript, or through magazine articles. I want to know as little as possible before I walk into the theater sporting my tricorder, phaser, and Spock ears. ; ) (Just kidding...not that there's anything wrong with that. :P).

    I'm a patient man, and I can wait. Though another teaser might be something to keep us fans satisfied. It's like one giant Christmas Eve waiting for this movie to be released. : )

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