RE: What Shatner Wanted | Report this post to moderator
By: The Real Dr McCoy (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:42:21 on May 11, 2008 | (2)

While I'm flattered that you felt that a response to my reply deserved its own top-level thread, you might want to consider what the usage policies here say about that sort of thing.

"Yet that's exactly what ST:XI was to be, since Team Abrams desperately wanted to put Shatner in their script. Abrams deemed this an appropriate goal, despite GEN."

No, wanting to include Shatner in the script if possible without making significant sacrifices to the storyline isn't the same thing. I've no problem with an attempt to find a way to include Shatner, nor do I think that doing so inherently would make the movie "a vehicle for catering to the whims of a relative handful of actor obsessed fanatics". I just don't think that effort should supersede the other overall goals of the movie. I don't think that anything that Orci or Abrams' crew have said evidenced nefarious motives, deceit, or putting their vision of the movie aside for the sake of casting for a single role. Most of those accusations stem from anger over a decision made movies ago, not from reasonable or well-supported arguments. They almost always boil down to the "Well, this is sci-fi and time travel. They said they wanted to, and if they didn't do it then they must have been lying" non-sequitur.

Abrams' and Co's comments have evidenced a desire not to sacrifice their larger goals for the sake of a single casting decision, something that efforts to try to accommodate the latter do not contradict. The kind of binary thinking that doesn't recognize the distinction is exactly the same type of nonsense that's behind the "Well, they said they wanted to do include Shatner, and now that they're not, so THEY MUST HAVE LIED!!!" bullshit. Frankly, that kind of infantile illogic is the kind of thing that negatively stigmatizes Trek fans, and I would hope that most are capable of better.

-The Doctor


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