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By GustavoLeao / 10:57, 8 June 2007 / General Star Trek

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Trek Movie Report posted an exclusive interview with Battlestar Galactica Ronald D. Moore, in which he talks about the future of the Star Trek franchise on the big and small screen. Regarding the subject of Star Trek XI Moore told the site that he is a fan of J.J. Abrams. "He is tremendously talented and I think he is going to do a really good job," Here are a few excerpts.

TrekMovie.com: Last week your old DS9 comrade Ira Behr told me (story) that he thought the plans to return to the era of Kirk and Spock was the safe bet, but that it was also ‘marching backwards to the future', do you agree with that assessment?


Ron Moore: think I understand Ira's point and there is a lot of validity to saying they are stepping backwards, but at the same time I think it is the smart move to do it. I think the Star Trek universe has grown beyond what you can get your arms around. You can no longer truly enjoy it for what it is because it is so big and it has so many cross sections and so much continuity that it is maddening. I think only the truly hard core fans can keep all that together. So I think it is time to brush all that stuff over and say ‘what were the roots of all this again? , what was this really about?' It was about the 5 year mission with these guys on this ship and let's start over and tell a new set of tales. So I support them I think it is a really good move.


TrekMovie.com: Beyond the film, there are a lot of new genre TV shows getting the greenlight these days. Do you think that Star Trek and it's kind of futuristic space based sci-fi can work on network television today?


Ron Moore: I don't know I think that is tough. It hasn't been done and they have given it a try over the years, even the original Star Trek didn't make it on network TV. The broadcast networks needs such a large general audience and science fiction on TV has been such a narrower appeal. It is a strange equation of which I have never understood because if you look at the top ten feature films of all time it is almost all genre stuff...look at Star Wars. Why it doesn't work on TV I don't know.

More from Moore can be found at Trek Movie Report.

UPDATE : Moore also talked to IESB and said he is okay with a complete re-imagining of Star Trek.

"I'm very supportive in what they are doing," Moore tells the IESB. "I think starting over on Star Trek is the best possible route that you can go."


So does that mean Abrams should re-imagine it just like Moore did Galactica? "I think that you can re-imagine it, yes, I think that you can absolutely re-imagine Star Trek. Now I don't know that you have to, it doesn't have to be a Battlestar version of Star Trek...I don't know how radical is what J.J. Abrams has in mind," said Moore.

The original report (plus a video interview) is here.

UPDATE 2 : Collider also talked with Moore and asked him if Abrams had called him about the feature and what does he hopes to see with the new movie. Finally they asked him if they were to do a new Trek TV show after the feature film would he be willing to return to the franchise. See the video interview here.



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By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:47:56 on Jun 09, 2007 | Edit History (1)

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I think only the truly hard core fans can keep all that together. So I think it is time to brush all that stuff over and say ‘what were the roots of all this again? , what was this really about?' It was about the 5 year mission with these guys on this ship and let's start over and tell a new set of tales.

Isn't that exactly what ENT was about? Getting back to the roots of Star Trek?

The 2 first seasons of ENT was perhaps not as inspired, as some people would have liked. But they were pretty much rooted in Star Trek's philosophy. The third season was a direct opposite in many aspects (a war show). But even then, it was this "X year mission with these guys on this ship" and it didn't require any previous knowledge of Trek to understand it.

Remember the 45/95 rule of aquistition? It says "expand or die". Maybe its true for Star Trek? Maybe it needs to get OFF THIS SHIP for a while and focus on planetary life? It might help the writers to come up with something we haven't seen before.

Truth is, I haven't got a clue what's up with people anymore... Maybe there's just no need for Trek. Maybe it just needs to rest.


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    By: Brannon (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:09:35 on Jun 13, 2007

    I think you are partially right when you say Enterprise was intended to get back to the roots of Star Trek...but you are a little off.

    Although the intent may have been to show the adventures of the first Enterprise, the series was just an attempt by Berman and Braga to keep their jobs, which was successful. And although in the beginning they both had great success with storytelling, in later years it was obvious they were just doing it for the paycheck.

    If you want evidence of that, just watch the first two years of Enterprise. And Season three, and Season four....

    Frankly, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

    Expand or die is a good axiom...but you have to be good to expand. That's why you don't see shows like CSI:The Black Donnelly's or Law and Order:The Nine, or visit places like Meineke Sushi Bar or H and R Block Spinal Surgery.

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    "This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we cant, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people-Yes We Can."

    "Yeah, I don't do cowering."-Barack Obama


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    By: Brannon (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:08:04 on Jun 13, 2007

    I think you are partially right when you say Enterprise was intended to get back to the roots of Star Trek...but you are a little off.

    Although the intent may have been to show the adventures of the first Enterprise, the series was just an attempt by Berman and Braga to keep their jobs, which was successful. And although in the beginning they both had great success with storytelling, in later years it was obvious they were just doing it for the paycheck.

    If you want evidence of that, just watch the first two years of Enterprise.

    Frankly, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

    Expand or die is a good axiom...but you have to be good to expand. That's why you don't see shows like CSI:The Black Donnelly's or Law and Order:The Nine, or visit places like Meineke Sushi Bar or H and R Block Spinal Surgery.

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    "With hope and virtue, let us brave once more the icy currents, and endure what storms may come. Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations."

    "This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we cant, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people-Yes We Can."

    "Yeah, I don't do cowering."-Barack Obama


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By: Captain Patti (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:04:43 on Jun 08, 2007

I am sorry but I don't see a need to reimage Trek and I personally don't care what Ron Moore thinks. This guy can say all he wants but he is no fan of Trek. Just a paycheck. I am surprised this posted interview was not Moores use crying and ranting about Trek and Sci-Fi as a whole.



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    By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:24:54 on Jun 09, 2007

    If you'd read Moore's editorial about Captain Kirk, published in the New York Times a few months ago, you'd know how stupid your statement really is.

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      By: Captain Patti (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:42:31 on Jun 13, 2007

      Just because he says or in this case posts an article doesn't make him a fan. When you look how poorly Generations was written and how the hero was treated and killed. It is very apparent that Moore and B&B held little for the character.

      I think Moore is just back peddling his bad writing.


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    By: Glassman Cometh (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:02:37 on Jun 09, 2007

    Yes he is a fan of Star Trek. I mean, what the hell is your point? This guy was a fan, like you, who got to actually write for Star Trek. And most of what he wrote was great.

    You are just a envious person because he is who he is...and you are who you are. Just....a fan.
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      By: Captain Patti (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:47:46 on Jun 13, 2007

      The guy is no fan of Trek. Lets kill the best character off by shooting him in the back? Oh yes that "fantastic writing". Most of Moores writing was weak.

      Who gives a shit if I haven't written for Trek. I at least didn't kill off the best character in the most ridiculous manner. Kirks death should of over shadowed Spocks. But it didn't. Moore himself is back peddling his bad writing for years now.

      Just because I point out Moore not being a fan makes me envious??? Whatever buddy.....Got any more great observations.


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By: sb2004 (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:11:35 on Jun 08, 2007

Moore makes a good point. TOS, Voyager and Enterprise were all network shows, and none of them did particularly well. Yes, Voyager survived its seven years by the skin of its teeth, while TOS and ENT struggled for several years before the axe fell. But TNG and DS9 thrived.

If Trek ever returns to TV, it needs to be as a syndicated show, or possible a made-for-cable show like BSG.

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    By: GreatCzarsGhost (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:35:52 on Jun 08, 2007

    From what I've read DS9 did lose ratings ever year that it was on TV even if the story did get better. Next Gen is the only show that held it's audience and ratings through most of it's run. Seasons 6 and 7 were lower than the ones before them though and Next Gen films have all had consecutive lower grosses(SST8- 92M, ST9- 70M ST10- 43M).

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    By: Glassman Cometh (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:51:03 on Jun 08, 2007

    Actually you may have something there...why can't SCIFI channel televise a new trek-series...yes, SCIFI is owned by UNIVERSAL/NBC but so what? Some kind of joint production could certainly be arranged...

    But...then again...I'd rather let TREk thrive in the theaters for at least two or three movies before I'd start going to the well to fast again...

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way to go RDM | Report this post to moderator
By: Glassman Cometh (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:26:29 on Jun 08, 2007

Just last week I was flipping through my TNG and DS9 companions and I am truly amazed at how many good stories this guy wrote for those shows. Oh, we can sit here and hammer him for killing Kirk, but that was studio driven and I actually think Generations gets better each time I see it.

I am a fan of his BSG, though it lagged last season I thought. And I also watched the first season of 4400 but it didn't really stick with me. I'd love to see IRA and RDM do some other project together. Ira is a good producer, RDM has great ideas that are usually character driven. I think pairing these guys together again would be a great idea for any network to try.

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