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Ronald D. Moore and David Eick on End of Galactica, Pegasus Telemovie and Caprica

By GustavoLeao / 18:30, 1 June 2007 / General Genre/SciFi

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In a conference call with reporters on Friday, Battlestar Galactica executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick talked about the end of the series after the fourth season, as announced yesterday.

"I think it was somewhere around the midpoint of [last] season, when we were working on the story where we'd gotten to the algae planet and discovered the temple" devoted to the final five Cylons, Moore said "And by the end of the season, we had taken that moment and moved it to the revelation of four of the five Cylons, and one of our characters had actually been to Earth and seen it. But that was sort of the moment where we started to feel like, if we don't start to pay this off and don't really reveal those secrets and move in that direction, we'd get to a place where it would feel like we're jerking [around] the audience."

About the decision to end the series, Eick said "This is a decision that took some time to arrive at, and like all decisions this large, there were a number of questions we had internally and a creative agenda we wanted to serve. I think we all had to collectively decide when we wanted to be definitive about it. That time is now,"

The network wasn't exactly thrilled with the idea of giving up its most buzzworthy show, but Moore says once he and Eick made their case, Sci Fi didn't stand in their way either.

"They didn't really fight with us," Moore says. "They expressed concern that the show might be able to go on longer and wanted to make sure we weren't passing up opportunities to continue telling stories, but they were very accommodating. When David and I were very clear that this was what we really, definitively wanted to do, they supported us."

Regarding "Razor", the November telemovie about the story of the Battlestar Pegasus, Moore said "Some of the events of the Pegasus' back story during the original Cylon attack are dramatized, and some after the death of Adm. Cain [Michelle Forbes] while Pegasus is still in the fleet are covered,"

Regarding the proposed prequel series Caprica, Eick said "I don't think we know the immediate answer, it's not on the immediate front-burner. No one has said to us definitively that it is dead. It's something we believe in wholeheartedly as it would not only capture a lot of 'Battlestar Galactica' fans, but shore up a whole new audience to the mythology, because it's a very different type of show."

"The end of season three showed a glimpse of Earth; you actually saw it. And you will see more of it," Moore says. "We're going to get to a place that we're going to call Earth by the end of the series."

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By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:59:06 on Jun 04, 2007

Maybe someone should tell RDM that he's already reached the point where the audience feels they've been jerked around.

RDM's gonna have to rip off Blade Runner's replicants. "Skin jobs" on Earth kill all humans and then feel deep, profound remorse. Some "skin jobs" leave Earth to search for the long lost twelve colonies to make amends. They discover the "toaster" Cylons and teach their primitive machine bretheren their faith and how to "upgrade to Windows Vista" (i.e. build their own "skin jobs"). The "new and improved" Cylons then renew their war against the twelve colonies and Baltar's "Final Five" try to set things right by forging peace between the Cylons and what's left of humanity.

IMHO, that's the only back story and conclusion that can be derived from what we've seen thus far that has a chance of leading to an interesting 22 episodes (two of which are already wasted on a Pegasus backstory).

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By: Plaid Ninja (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:34:20 on Jun 04, 2007

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Maybe someone should tell RDM that he's already reached the point where the audience feels they've been jerked around.

I've never felt that way about this show.

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  By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:24:12 on Jun 05, 2007
  
  When I see compression artifacts on a DVD, I hate to watch it again. A raging inferno on HDTV just looks terrible to me and I cringe when I have to watch it. Paramount Video overcompressed DS9 and Klingon foreheads seem to move about, just not in sync with the actor's head. As a result, I've only watched my DS9 DVD's once.
  
  I guess you're the type who can tune out problem parts in the story, like the "they have a plan" in the intro where, by the third season, the Cylons obviously have no coherent plan. I envy you.
  
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    By: Plaid Ninja (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:47:17 on Jun 05, 2007
    
    I never said I didn't find there were some problems with the story, only that I didn't feel like I've been jerked around. Theres a full season left. As in 25% of the show is still unaired. But I guess you're the type that makes blanket assumptions about people and lays them out in the most insulting way possible.
    
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      By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:58:12 on Jun 05, 2007
      
      Oh, ok. By not explaining yourself, I was expected to ignore you because your post was just contradictory and not meant to convey any actual intelligent conversation.
      
      Noted for future reference.
      
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        By: Glassman Cometh (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:29:14 on Jun 06, 2007
        
        Actually he did...what he is saying is what I too have a problem with: people who bash a show, especially an arcing story like this, before it is finished...let us wait until the show is over, in one year, and then if I felt I was jerked around I too will join your chorus...but so far BSG has been about 75% really good, and that's about 100% better than Voyager and Enterprise combinined...
        
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        By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:41:55 on Jun 06, 2007
        
        Perhaps I've been less than clear. There is no Cylon "plan"! What ever RDM thought the "plan" was, obviously changed after New Caprica. That should be very clear by now. There is nothing that can possibly redeem a single, consistent, unwavering Cylon plan in Season 4! Thus, I feel jerked around.
        
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        By: Plaid Ninja (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:22:01 on Jun 07, 2007
        
        I'm still confident that there has been a plan, and that the plan revolves around cylon-human hybrids. Not knowing what the goal is can make for some confusion, especially given how the cylon methodology has changed. Again, without knowing all the pieces its a little hard to say. I'm a bit more curious as to what the "great miracle" is supposed to be.
        
        Cavil: Let me point out that it doesn't matter if we find Earth in five days, or if we find Earth in 5,000 years. We're machines. We'll still be around to savor the great miracle.
        
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        By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:28:29 on Jun 08, 2007
        
        Thanks for proving my point... that quote is exactly the definition of "jerking the viewers around".
        
        But I'll call your bluff... "exactly what kind of non-changing plan would that be that exactly fits with everything we've seen on the screen?" I still say that you can't come up with it. Not because it "just hasn't been revealed yet", but because whatever it was, it clearly and seriously deviated from it after New Caprica. In other words... the Cylons have gone from "Plan A": put humanity out of it's misery, to "Plan B": chase humanity's remnants and Baltar's "Final Five" to "Earth".
        
        I'm betting RDM's gonna pull a "Plan A and Plan B really weren't the Cylon's Plans at all... it's really been Plan C all along!" Especially after this interview.
        
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        By: Plaid Ninja (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:33:19 on Jun 12, 2007
        
        I suppose its a matter of perspective. Sure you can go along with the jerked around theory, but again that's just not how I see it.
        
        I see it as the Cylons have a general plan, more of a destination than a step by step. This plan has changed and deteriorated due to various factors, not the least has been interactions with humanity in various ways.
        
        So no, I still don't feel jerked around. Yeah, the show isn't perfect, but its pretty damn good.
        
        Voyager jerked me around. Enterprise jerked me around. But BSG has nothing but love from me, except for The Woman King, which made Helo look like a freak even though he was just doing the right thing. Bad writing/directing.
        
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By: Capricorn Two (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:58:43 on Jun 02, 2007 | (1)

There's no doubt with NBC picking up THE BIONIC WOMAN for the fall TV schedule led to their final decision. There was no way DE could divide his time and creative energy and managerial duties (and time for his family!) effectively. Creatively, DE is a good foil and partner to the creative factor. His absense for a period in S3 - due to writing and filming the BW pilot - was felt. RDM is a talented man but Eick balanced him. And I'm sure NBC U would prefer DE focusing his time on BW-remake fully with the hopes of it generating buzz, ratings and profit.

I have no problem with their decision. It's business. It's been a good run and it'll be nice to see what comes next in the final season.

And a word of advice to RDM and DE: once the series concludes: put the battlestar in dry-dock, turn-off the lights, secure the bulkheads, and never look back: no prequels, sequels, spin-offs or one-time movies. You've done a wonderful job and you both should be proud of your work on BSG: but once you leave, keeping going into new endeavours and never return to this universe.

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By: plasmaboy (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 06:28:39 on Jun 02, 2007

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Moore says. "We're going to get to a place that we're going to call Earth by the end of the series"

what the heck does that mean??? sounds like its not really earth (our earth ) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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By: JagMan (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 20:29:14 on Jun 01, 2007

You could see Moore and Eick wearing water ski's as they jumped a shark to the beat of "All Along the Watchtower". The finale for season 3 of LOST made my jaw drop, the BSG finale not-so-much.

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By: Glassman Cometh (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:39:51 on Jun 02, 2007

I totally agree..here is how I rated the finale's that I watched..

1. Heroes
2. LOST
3. Boston Legal
4. BSG (honorable mention)

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  By: droopymcc (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:17:48 on Jun 02, 2007
  
  In my opinion, the Lost finale was simply incredible on all levels: storytelling, acting, writing. It was phenomenal. The BSG finale was also quite good with some hints of Earth and the revelation of 4 cylons. That speech Tigh made when they all met was great.
  
  The Heroes finale was just terrible, I found. The series was uneven from the start, with some characters being way more interesting than others...but it started gathering steam and the weeks leading up to the finale was fantastic. Then comes the finale and nothing. There were plenty of instances that defied the internal logic the show build and worst of all, they denied us a cool superhero fight. I was waiting most of the season for a payoff fight between Peter and Sylar but no. It didn't happen. Here's hoping Heroes comes back with a bang next year.
  
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By: Rhiannon (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:53:03 on Jun 02, 2007

The end of LOST s3 made me angry. Again I learnd nothing that really IS a fact about the island and what happens there.
In Galactica I finally saw four of the final five Cylons and they had a stunning idea to bring back Starbuck (who I really believed to be out of the show).
I wasn't that thrilled with Galactica's third season like I was with the first two. But at least I get some little answers here.
In LOST I simply feel lost! I only liked that Ben Episode this year (The Man Behind The Curtain).

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  By: Brannon (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:37:33 on Jun 02, 2007
  
  Doesn't mean it's earth in our time frame. Maybe it's the Earth of the future or earth of our past.
  
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  "With hope and virtue, let us brave once more the icy currents, and endure what storms may come. Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations."
  
  "This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we cant, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people-Yes We Can."
  
  "Yeah, I don't do cowering."-Barack Obama
  
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