He said "James T. Kirk"..... not William Shatner.
So I don't trust him. I haven't trusted Hollywood since Jon Peters attempted to "re-imagine" Superman.
(Read up on it, it's out there. Giant mechanical spider. Oy.)
This is a revelation???
FWIW, Robert Orci had the following to say on the Transformers movie message board on April 5th:
Q: How is the Star Trek project coming? And how is it comprable to Transformers? Is it similar in that you are having to reinvent it to some degree while trying to keep the core elements the same, or are the two projects pretty different in your mind?
A: Trek is going great. Starting to draw up a production schedule, budget, etc. Different in my mind than Transformers, where continuity was less rigid.
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Hey, thanks for posting that. If you have anymore Orci quotes from the message board, please email me (gustavo@trekweb.com). Thanks again,
Gustavo
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One great thing about the Star Trek universe is that you can pull anything off. Technically, but not ethically, you can mess with any element and still come up with a valid explanation, such as alternate time lines or realities.
Still, any differentiation from the canon we are familiar with, will result in some confusion among the audience. Trekkers will ask WHY did this happen? So, if canon needs to be bent, it needs to be for a good reason.
On the other hand, if Abrams claims that his story takes place in the timeline we are familiar with, then all the details have to be right.
Personally I am mostly concerned with the ethics. You can always come up with a technical explantion. But not an ethical one that holds water. As I've said before, I want the movie to respect canon. What I really mean is that it respects Gene Roddenberry, and is not just a money-making movie.
To respect canon is to respect "what was", which is closely related to respecting Roddenberry, and that is to respect the Star Trek audience.
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Canon, schmanon...........
After years of Berman and Braga's meddling, canon means very little...
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There's a difference. All they said is that they personally have respect for existing canon, but that doesn't mean the script will FOLLOW canon. You can respect a thing personally without adhering to it. They're two different things. We shouldn't be making assumptions either way at this point.
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I believe his age is mentioned in the episode where they are exposed to the "virus" that causes them to age prematurely (except Chekov), I might be wrong though.
J.J. do the right thing. Bring back William Shatner + save Kirk from the nexus.
If you can pull that off Star Trek will be back on the map.
William Shatner is James T Kirk. James T Kirk is William Shatner.
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James T. Kirk is William Shatner is the same as saying Sean Connery is 007.
Things change. Flow with it, dude.
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"This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time - to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth - that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we cant, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people-Yes We Can."
"Yeah, I don't do cowering."-Barack Obama
Good idea. While the hope will be to get new fans to see this movie, retaining those fans who hate to see canon messed with will be important. And Abrams does not even need to speak of some obscure reference, just to not interfere with other stories.
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exactly. My huge thanks to Abrams and his team for stating that they'd respect canon. It would very much hurt to have TOS or other parts of Trek directly invalidated by ST11. I'm glad that he's stating that he can tell a simple young Kirk story without undoing TOS, etc. We see so very little of the characters' lives and the inner workings of the various planets including Earth that it seems easy to avoid egregious canon violations. With a young Kirk, all you have to do is not invalidate what we know about his brother, Sam, his time in both Iowa (right?) and that colony where Kodos was governor, the Kobiashi Maru, his service on the Farragut, and the fact that he makes Captain younger than anyone (although I don't know if his exact age was ever determined in TOS). That's easy. NONE of those things need to be mentioned explicitly. They just need to avoid saying he's never been off of Earth, that he's an only child, that the Enterprise is his first and last posting, and stupid stuff like that. It seems so easy to do. They should just hire a few geeks on the cheap who would proofread and bring canon errors to his attention---although it sounds like he and his cohorts are pretty avid Trekkies, so unintentional canon violations aren't that likely.
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