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By: sb2004 (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:02:30 on Nov 14, 2006

The reaction to Shatner suggesting unknowns as Kirk and Spock suggests I'm right that viewers and Trekkies in particular will be more accepting of someone fresh in the role than someone who is already known for other characters.

I can't see how Abrams will get Kirk and Spock to appear unless maybe it's some sort of flash-forward to some time prior to Generations. Even then I don't think it'll work. Nimoy could probably get away with playing Spock from 10 years ago, but Bill Shatner has physically changed since 1994, and even though there is that TV commercial showing his current face on his 1991 body, I really don't think that'll pass muster for a big screen film.

If Abrams really wants to do a reboot, he'd be better off dropping the idea and starting fresh across the board.

Al

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By: BFlix (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:22:00 on Nov 22, 2006

3) Any news on the upcoming Star Trek movie with J.J. Abrams?
I met with Mr. Abrams, and they have a really good plot going. [They’re] trying to fit in Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk -- the elderly ones. How you get a dead captain to communicate with [his] younger [self]? That’s going to be very arduous plotting. I’m going to be interested to see how they solve it. - http://blog.meevee.com/my_weblog/2006/11/meevee_exclusiv_2.html#more

I hope they don't go the time travel route. The flashback concept might be cool, but like someone already mentioned, it would have to have some sort of relevance. What about the film spanning many years? Starting when they were young up to their older years. That might be too complicated a story though, huh? Either way I'll want to check it out

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By: Grizzlor (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:17:34 on Nov 14, 2006

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... this isn't going to be a "flashback" film where Leonard and William are chatting about old times and we see their first adventure together. That being said, I'm not sure how else they could do this ... unless the whole film features those two. I'll be interested to see the official release once Paramount knows what they're doing (i.e. once they get a script).

A flashback film is what I don't want, unless they somehow make canon that Kirk either did not die in Generations, or something. Because if they stand by that, then they have to pretend that the two are as they were back in the late 80's and early 90's. That is patently ridiculous. I say just throw a kind of a whitewash over Generations, it stunk anyway. I know that to the general public, they probably won't see a difference. But to CGI those two guys to look like 15 years ago would be really lame. As I said, if they bring Kirk back, in a way that resolves or ignores Generations, I am cool with just about anything JJ does in the film, as long as they don't rekill Kirk or Spock.

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By: Dingo's Kidneys (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:00:36 on Nov 14, 2006

I'm amazed that the Great Shatner has poked along for most of his mediocre career, from Kingdom of the Spiders, to T.J. Hooker and the Trek movies, and hasnt become a huge star until his 70s. Priceline was the best thing that every happened to him!

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GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!.... You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! -- William Shatner on Saturday Night Live (1986)

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By: StillKirok (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:15:18 on Nov 14, 2006

It's called good writing. It's not too hard to address Kirk's death. Hell, they could make some sort of parallel story that involves Spock saving Kirk in something related to their first adventure, and the movie goes back and forth.

Or, they could even find Kirk still in the nexus. After all, when Kirk stopped Soran in Generations, a new timeline was created where Picard never went into the nexus, so arguably, Kirk is still there.

Let the lousy writing work to their advantage.

Turn a negative into a positive. Spock manages to get to the nexus, where he remembers his first adventure with Kirk before finding him.

That's just off the top of my head.

Make no mistake--Shatner returning as Kirk would add millions to the film because for the first time in over a decade, there's actually a REASON to see a Star Trek movie.

You don't get that without the return of Kirk.

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