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By GustavoLeao / 13:00, 26 September 2006 / Deep Space Nine

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The latest issue of Star Trek Magazine features a brief interview with Star Trek Deep Space Nine star Avery Brooks. Here are a few excerpts.



Q : How did you feel about how Star Trek Deep Space Nine ended for Sisko, with him joining the Prophets ?

Brooks : The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going to really kill Sisko. I took that very literally, and asked the producers, "Why are you killing Sisko ?"

The producers told me, "Look we thought you'd be thrilled because we had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko with another child on the way. You still have Sisko with a young man [Jake Sisko] trying to find his way, and you make him a God ! That wasn't fair.

To read the full article, get the new issue of Star Trek Magazine at your local newsstand.



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nothing new | Report this post to moderator
By: garak8888 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:26:15 on Sep 26, 2006

This is nothing new, he said the same thing shortly after the finale aired, and it is in the DS9 Companion, except he talked more about leaving Cassidy as a black single mother and the message that was.


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By: Trekker121 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 20:27:30 on Sep 26, 2006

The whole series there was a debate between the Prophets being just that Prophets OR "worm hole aliens." I liked that debate. It sparked the debate between religion and gods etc... It never answered the question wholly, however, are there gods or not? But that last episode seems to have given creedance to that side of the debate. Happens to be the other side of the debate than I stand on - but nonetheless I didn't like the validity it gave to something very un-Star Trek in my opinion. That being religion.

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    By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:34:13 on Sep 28, 2006

    As Arthur C. Clarke once said, any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic. I don't see "What You Leave Behind" taking sides in the gods v. aliens debate - it's still entirely possible that the Prophets are just aliens with an entirely different viewpoint and a long-term plan.

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      By: Trekker121 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 05:16:10 on Sep 29, 2006

      That is true - and frankly that is how I justified it to myself - but even the writers said to Brooks "We're making you into a God!" But you are right - Star Trek is full of justifican. Don't get me wrong - I still loved DS9.

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        By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:51:10 on Sep 29, 2006 | Edit History (1)

        DS9 really deserved an 8th season (even a short one) to wrap things up. WYLB felt somewhat rushed...but the last few minutes make up for it.

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        And dying to me dont sound like all that much fun...
        -John Mellencamp

        Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria.
        The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
        -Robert A. Heinlein

        Samuel T. Cogley, Attorney at Law


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By: John (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:22:52 on Sep 26, 2006

I agree with Brooks feeling he got shafted in the end. Behr did so well but dropped the ball on this one.


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    By: Dukat (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 22:24:37 on Sep 26, 2006

    This isn't new from Brooks, he has been saying the same thing since the finale was aired.

    I don't think his concern was Avery Brooks or the character having a poor ending, the way I have always heard him describe it was that he was very sensitive to being a black man, and a role model, who would be separated from his son and his unborn child.



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By: El4short (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 15:28:02 on Sep 26, 2006

As a parent, one of my favorite qualities about Sisko was his devotion to his son, and their wonderful relationship. I didn't care if he was a God or not -- what about his son? What about his new family? All they knew was that he was gone. It was a big blemish to an otherwise terrific finale.

To the point above, I agree -- it seems like the TNG-DS9-ENT regime didn't have a sentimental bone in their bodies, when I think back to the way they killed off so many great characters for no real purpose. Too make it worse, most of them got lousy farewell lines ... all Data says is "good-bye," and that's AFTER Picard is gone.


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By: Gary P (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:20:35 on Sep 26, 2006

At the end of the last episode, Kira walked around the space-station inferring normalcy after the war. She was a symbol of Sisko the prophet. When she saw Jake looking out the window, it reminded us that Captain Sisko was more than emissary, more than a captain, and more than a war hero. He was a father. Putting them together for the final scene was very fitting. I thought Sisko’s ‘transcendence’ brought out the shows spiritual nature.


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By: Postdoc (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:47:14 on Sep 26, 2006

It kind of took him out of the way for no real purpose, but like Kirk, Trip and Data, that's the preferred poignant ending they seemed to like. Too bad. I'm just tired of second guessing their bad (IMHO) creative decisions. Kudo to Brooks for questioning it, though.


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    By: Starbrelz (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:27:29 on Sep 27, 2006

    I thought it cheated Sisko, Kassidy, Jake, and the unborn child. It left the door open for great wrap up theatrical or TV movie... but you knew it wasn't gonna happen. The only Behr decision I didn't like.

    If they had one more episode they could have used WYLB part 1 as the penultimate epsiode, and fleshed out the WYLB part 2 into two hours.

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    By: mustangman289 (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:05:33 on Sep 26, 2006

    Don't forget about Tasha Yar and Jadzia Dax. They were taken out of the way for no real purpose, too.


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      By: Cmdr T'Nor (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:27:32 on Sep 27, 2006

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      Don't forget about Tasha Yar and Jadzia Dax.

      Actually, Denise Crosby (Yar) and Terry Farrell (Dax) both left on their own and it was therefore necessary to somehow write them out. This is particularly true for Crosby who left after only one season of TNG.

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        By: Gprime85 (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:39:21 on Sep 28, 2006

        Crosby said she felt she could do more than just stand behind the Captain and say "Yes, sir." "Hailing frequencies open, sir." "Aye, sir." Which is true, but I would have at least waited another season and not left right away.


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          By: Cmdr T'Nor (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:14:07 on Sep 28, 2006

          I wonder what impression she was under to begin with. I would think she knew that she wasn't going to be the captain and as such would be saying "Aye, Sir" quite often. But even so, the character of Tasha Yar often went on away missions, and was after all the Chief of Security. If she had remained with the show a short while longer, perhaps her character would have been drawn out some more.

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    By: baldmark (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:38:36 on Sep 26, 2006

    no one really dies in star trek, i never fealt sisko died in the final episode i took it as he was gone but one day he would return he had to be with the profits but they would return him much much later, thats how i fealt the final episode ended.

    any one in star trek can return, if kirk was back for the generations movie then hellow!!!!! any one can come back even DATA! in star trek anything is posible maybe in nemesis right at the beginning of the explosion "TIN MAN" swops in and takes data away and everybody thinks data died.

    i to hate that they have to kill in order to get emotion out of the fans when they can make better stories with deeper meaning of story telling


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      By: Sxottlan (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:12:41 on Sep 27, 2006

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      i to hate that they have to kill in order to get emotion out of the fans...

      That's just the problem though. These deaths don't generate any kind of emotion. They're just flat and lifeless. They just happen and we just move on.


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        By: John Smith 99 (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:33:56 on Sep 27, 2006

        The deaths that were the most moving were the ones that were reversed or happened in another reality - Spock's death in STII; elder Jake Sisko's death in DS9's 'The Visitor' - because they were so meaningful and had purpose.


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