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By TRexx / 04:57, 20 February 2006 / Gaming

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The upcoming Star Trek: Legacy video game will place you in command of a task force of warships, testing your strategic and tactical skills with real-time combat, in a storyline that spans the entire Star Trek universe. After schmoozing with Bethesda Softworks PR ace Pete Hines (story), the intrepid reporters at Gamecloud probed Mad Doc founder Dr. Ian Lane Davis for further details. Here are excerpts from their Q&A...

Gamecloud: Star Trek: Legacy is being described as an action-strategy game. Why go for a hybrid game play instead of a full RTS title like the first two Armada titles?

Ian Davis: Star Trek: Legacy is the Star Trek game I've always wanted to make: the best possible gaming representation of Trek fleet combat. We started out asking, "How should Star Trek combat play out?" and built the game from there without pinning it into any one genre. We felt that tying it too closely to some predetermined genre's conceits would compromise the experience. If you say, "We're making an RTS game" then you're bound by RTS conventions that don't really make sense in Star Trek (e.g. you can't build a Sovereign Class starship in 30 seconds in Trek reality). When any game design question came up, we asked two questions: 1) Is this fun? and 2) is this Trek? Anything that didn't fit both of those categories was cut. Legacy is part squad shooter, part action game, part strategy game, but it's all Trek combat, all the time.

How would you describe the actual combat in Star Trek: Legacy?

I'd say it's "real-time, epic Starfleet battle at its best." Picture the coolest and most cinematic battles you've ever seen in any Star Trek footage -- then kick it up a few notches. Players will engage in large-scale combat in beautiful 3D -- where all the drama and power of your formidable fleet will come to bear against your sworn enemies. Set across the galaxy's most beautiful space environments (fully realized nebulas, wormholes, planets, and stars), Legacy's intuitive controls allow players to quickly select targets and destinations in this 3D world.

What can you tell us about the graphical features in Star Trek: Legacy?

We're truly breaking new ground in Legacy. We're bringing dynamic 3D battlefields to life on this one; the game's backdrop of beautifully rendered space environments, realized nebulas, wormholes, planets and stars is looking grand! Most importantly, we're adding in the kind of detail that really makes the gameplay come to life: detailed weapon effects and damage modeling (weapons searing with energy and charged shields that surge with every hit, ships with full damage modeling that break apart, strewing debris and sparks). I can't wait to see players' reactions when they get their first look at this. You will drool.

Read the complete Q&A with Ian Davis at Gamecloud.


Mad Doc's Star Trek: Armada II is available in the U.S.A., United Kingdom, and Deutschland.

 



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By: Flake (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:11:59 on Feb 20, 2006

If this is a success, and I don't see why it wouldn't be, they need to pick up the rights to BOTF and make BOTF2!!

A new FPS would be great as well. Perhaps taking advantage of the new Unreal game engine?

This one looks good though.


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By: Meglo (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:57:18 on Feb 20, 2006

I know this will sound like the obligatory ENT bash, but my only complaint is that it's being included with all the other series. If I end up playing this game, I will get rid of that ship ASAP. :)

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    By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:02:28 on Feb 20, 2006

    ...it might be fun to send the NX-01 into the sun.

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...on PC, xBox 360, & Nintendo DS! | Report this post to moderator
By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:12:26 on Feb 20, 2006

I'm very excited about this one being released on the Nintendo DS. While the interface with mos def be pretty cool, the truth'll be in the gameplay.

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By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:28:12 on Feb 20, 2006

Why does this have to be a COMBAT game? I enjoy combat games, but a STAR TREK game based on combat alone is pretty STUPID IMHO.

I'm sure the graphics will be great and all, but this is really something more appropriate for Star Wars. This game should have options for diplomacy and/or cunning ala Kirk.

I hope the company making this game loses money and goes out of business! This is a piss-poor representation and Star Trek deserves better treatment.

Who designed the game, Rick Berman?

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    By: fx7 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:53:07 on Feb 20, 2006


    I know what you mean....
    The last Trek games I played that felt like I was involved in a complete "Trek experience" were the 25th Anniversary game, Judgment Rites, and Final Unity.
    I would really like to see a new game that would go back to that style of gameplay.


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    By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:09:53 on Feb 20, 2006

    Have you even played Bridge Commander or Starfleet Command III? Both are excellent 'Trek combat games. You got no clue what you talkin' about boi!

    This is a piss-poor representation and Star Trek deserves better treatment.

    You've never even held/played the damn game. How in all great smurf do you even know?! Additionally, outside of the abovementioned games and the Armada series, 'Trek videogames have been piss-poor for quite some time.

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      By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:16:42 on Feb 20, 2006

      I'm sure it's fine technically speaking, perhaps even state-of-the-art. You guys go and enjoy playing it when it's released. As for me, I won't buy it unless there's something to it that redeems itself as a Star Trek item for me.

      You guys all seem to think that I should approve of this fucking game, and the fact is that I don't like the sound of it based on what I read. I'm not gonna like something just because you (collectively) seem to think that I should.

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        By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:21:17 on Feb 20, 2006

        Nobody's saying you have to like it. You did, however go off the deep end wishing bankruptcy on the company creating the game. That seems a bit silly, and, well, we're calling you on it.

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          By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:28:12 on Feb 20, 2006

          Well, you can go fuck yourself. Seriously. And make sure you have your Nintendo DS with you when you do.

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            By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:44:01 on Feb 20, 2006

            Dude. Why all the rage? Did someone forget to leave food and water for you in the 602 Club?

            Someone calls you on overreacting ("I hope they go out of business..." please...) and now I can go fuck myself. Are these examples of what "Star Trek is really about" that could be somehow incorporated into this bastardization of a game?

            To the reader, your initial reaction to this game ranked right up there with "WHY COULDN'T RICK BERMAN DIE?" on the sanity scale.

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            • and you accuse ME of going off the deep end? LOL! | Report this post to moderator
              By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:07:56 on Feb 20, 2006

              I'm overreacting?

              I stated my feelings. You and two others (so far, but I'm sure there will be more) didn't like what I had to say about it.

              And when I did offer a caveat in the form of suggesting that adding an overview and cutscenes that would at least make the story palpable in a Star Trek setting, that didn't seem to appease anybody. And now you want to argue my FEELINGS about this game and what it represents to me.

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              Dude. Why all the rage?

              You can't really be THAT clueless, it was this statement that you made:

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              Nobody's saying you have to like it. You did, however go off the deep end wishing bankruptcy on the company creating the game. That seems a bit silly, and, well, we're calling you on it.

              You're calling me on it? There's nothing to call me on whatsoever. You like the idea of this game and I don't. You're excited about it and I'm not.

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              To the reader, your initial reaction to this game ranked right up there with "WHY COULDN'T RICK BERMAN DIE?" on the sanity scale.

              Ummm... no. I did not wish death upon anybody. That is a bit extreme IMO. If you equate my wish that the company responsible for this game would go out of business with some troll who wishes Rick Berman would have died, then I think it is you who has gone off the deep end. But then, it's clear that we have ordered our personal universes differently.



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                By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:14:08 on Feb 20, 2006

                yo.

                i was merely reacting to your wish of death of a company (bankruptcy = corporate death) because you don't like the game's premise.

                i might add that i did so without wishing you to sodomize yourself while holding a game console...

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                  By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:17:14 on Feb 20, 2006

                  Okay, I apologize if you'll accept it.

                  I just thought the gerbil might be getting lonely :P

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                    By: Yesterday's Lemmiwinks (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:34:26 on Feb 20, 2006

                    See, I knew you were really a sweetie.

                    Of course I accept, and thank you.

                    Perhaps the gerbil is bored. He might enjoy some videogames... and perhaps it would be easier to get a portable to him than my Gamecube or PS2.

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                      By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:36:51 on Feb 20, 2006

                      Or... (shudders) an XBOX!

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    By: SpaceGoat (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:36:24 on Feb 20, 2006

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    Why does this have to be a COMBAT game?

    Likely so gamers aren't bored to tears.

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    I enjoy combat games, but a STAR TREK game based on combat alone is pretty STUPID IMHO.

    ...This game should have options for diplomacy and/or cunning ala Kirk.


    Then wait for Star Trek Online, the massively multiplayer Star Trek game coming up. ;)



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      By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:46:21 on Feb 20, 2006

      Well, this game sounds like something that Roddenberry would never put his stamp of approval on. And with all the war going on today, and the glut of games based on combat, I think Star Trek could have done without having to be associated with this garbage.

      This game appears not to offer anything innovative in terms of gameplay or subject matter. In short, it's garbage and I'm a little angry that Paramount has allowed this piece of shit game to happen. Star Trek is so much more than combat, so much more! Seriously, I hope they (the creators of this trash) go out of business quickly.

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        By: SpaceGoat (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:04:45 on Feb 20, 2006

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        This game appears not to offer anything innovative in terms of gameplay

        What are you talking about? No game previously has really allowed you to command a fleet of ships the way a Star Trek commander would, without silly RTS or adventure conventions. And, on top of that, no game has inserted the additional element of squad command.

        I'm looking forward to this game. I just hope it's not too ambitious for the developer to execute.

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        And with all the war going on today, and the glut of games based on combat, I think Star Trek could have done without having to be associated with this garbage.

        Someone's never seen DS9.

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        Seriously, I hope they (the creators of this trash) go out of business quickly.

        You're insane. :P

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          By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:13:22 on Feb 20, 2006

          DS9 isn't on the air right now, and besides, combat was not the focus of the show. It was about what the war did to the lives of the characters involved.

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          You're insane. :P

          No, I assure you I'm not. I just don't think this is appropriate for Star Trek. I don't know how to make that idea any more clear. Do you really not understand my point or is it just that you're defending it because you want to play the game?

          As I said, it would be different if it were a Star Wars game, because as the name implies it's Star WARS.

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            By: Bean (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:34:05 on Feb 20, 2006

            Did you stop to consider that maybe there are fans ot there who liked DS9 SPECIFICALLY because of the fleet combats and such? I loved the characters and story lines on DS9, but godamned if I didn't rewind and play the battle scenes over and over again a few times.

            Personally I was a huge fan of the Armada games and I'm looking forward to this game now. Just cause it doesn't fit into your vision of Star Trek is no reason to go off the deep end.

            As has been said about many games before (most much more controversial than this...) if you don't approve, don't buy it.

            As for Roddenberry, well, he's not really gonna make any more of a fuss over this than he did Enterprise and Voyager now is he ;)

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              By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:39:30 on Feb 20, 2006

              Hopefully, they'll insert a lot of cutscenes that emphasize what Trek is supposed to be about then, or at least make the premise of the game such that the user is a cadet using a Starfleet simulator.

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                Hopefully, they'll insert a lot of cutscenes that emphasize what Trek is supposed to be about then, or at least make the premise of the game such that the user is a cadet using a Starfleet simulator.

                ...at which point, everybody who doesn't have their own set of Spock (or Schpock) ears will fall asleep.

                I share your enthusiasm for a well-rounded 'Trek game... an RPG along the lines of SW: Knights of the Old Republic would be wondrous in the Trek universe (I'd be suprised if one wasn't already in the works.) However, some 'Trek combat games have proven to hold their own, and combat games sell. Period.

                No reason to wish others ill will... it'll help your blood-pressure in the end.

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                  By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:21:20 on Feb 20, 2006

                  Dude, it's a matter of personal preference. I'm sorry if you don't approve of my standards. Like I said, go buy the goddamn game when it comes out and enjoy the phasers and explosions.

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