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By Steve Krutzler / 12:14, 14 April 2005 / Enterprise

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The cast and crew of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE -- and for many, all of the modern STAR TREK series -- gathered last night in Hollywood at the Roosevelt Hotel to celebrate the end of a STAR TREK season one final time. Scott Bakula, John Billingsley, Dominc Keating, Linda Park, Anthony Montgomery and Jeffrey Combs joined producers Brannon Braga and Rick Berman on the red carpet for interviews with the press before joining colleagues like Manny Coto, Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, Mike Sussman, Chris Black, Merri Howard, Gary Graham, LeVar Burton, Brent Spiner and a host of others inside the event.

"Ultimately I think all culture is a synthetic process," John Billingsley told TrekWeb as he entered the party. "It has to always be about what you want to talk about in concert with what the world is doing. And ultimately what I think made season three more interesting, what they tried to do that. Season four, more interesting. They tried to do that. It was headed in that direction, but it was just maybe a little too late."

NEMESIS screenwriter John Logan was present and he expressed confidence in a new feature film with an all-new STAR TREK cast.

"I think it could definitely work," Logan said enthusiastically. "I believe even though I'm very sad that ENTERPRISE is ending its run, that the journey will go on eventually. I hope and I believe there'll always be a call for STAR TREK, so in a few years, a new movie, a new
cast, a new Enterprise, a new captain, absolutely!"

We asked many of the cast to assess why ENTERPRISE wasn't able to capture the same level of audience attention as the other series. Dominic Keating says more character drama early on could've helped, but, "If we'd done character driven shows it's likely that you all would be asking why we didnt do more action-packed shows."

Anthony Montgomery reflected on whether showcasing the secondary characters more could've helped.

"As an actor of course I have to say yes to that but, no," he said. "I think exactly what they did with the show was fantastic. They integrated us as far as I'm concerned the best that they could. Would I have liked to have seen more? Of course I would, I'm an actor. But i'm to have been a part and continually be a part of American history."

Scott Bakula firmly believes that the business of television these days just didn't add up to a positive environment for ENTERPRISE.

"The landscape of television has canged a lot," Bakula explained. "When you think about when VOYAGER came on -- that is now
eleven years ago-- and the televeision that was available then, the Internet that was available then, which it was not... the marketplace has changed dramatically."

Co-creator and executive producer Brannon Braga admitted that some missteps may have been made along the way.

"I think the concept of the show is great," Braga affirmed. "I think our aim to revolve it more around the charaters and less around the science fiction plot-driven stories did hurt the show. And it wasn't until the third season when we went back to that, or the fourth season when we went back to that, that viewers started coming back and it did start to catch on. So that may have been a creative misstep... I think one of the problems early on was that we tried to do things differently, but they weren't different enough."

Braga's partner in ENTERPRISE, Rick Berman, was less eager to analyze the show's creative decisions.

"That's like monday morning quarterbacking," Berman said. "It's really hard to say. We've discussed that a lot. There are a lot of what-ifs, but I'm proud of it."

Frequent STAR TREK guest actor Jeffrey Combs was sad to see it go this soon but focusing on the memories.

"I cherish my time with Scott Bakula and the rest of the cast," Combs said cheerfully. "STAR TREK is king. It's a
class franchise, and I'm deeply proud to have been a part of it."

Eugene Roddenberry, Jr. reflected as well, unwilling to judge, but certain that this doesn't mark the end for the franchise.

"No, this is not the end. STAR TREK will never die," Roddenberry said. "This is the end of ENTERPRISE. Paramount owns STAR TREK; I'm not going to predict or give advice or anything on what they should
do. I hold the name Roddenberry and I'll try to do the best I can representing that name... But I hope they do the best; I hope they listen to the fans, I hope they listen to everyone and give them what they want and stay true to my father's name. I could spend my whole life bitching and complaining about how I would do it differently but if I do that, then [I'd be] just a small person."

Hear much more from all these interviews in TrekWeb's Video Clips, hosted by our partner Crave Online. You'll need Macromedia Flash Player to view the videos.

  1. Brannon Braga

  2. Rick Berman

  3. Scott Bakula

  4. John Billingsley

  5. John Logan

  6. Dominic Keating

  7. Anthony Montgomery

  8. Jeffrey Combs

  9. Eugene Roddenberry, Jr.


TrekWeb extends our thanks to everyone at STAR TREK for a wonderful eighteen years!



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is it just me or...... | Report this post to moderator
By: davetrekinLA (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:28:55 on Apr 14, 2005

do B&B seem a bit like they're babbling and "washed out" when they're being interviewed? I couldn't help but notice this expired feeling, maybe it's just me...


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    By: voiceactor76 (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:45:55 on Apr 14, 2005

    You know whats real funny is that as this was going on last night at the roosevelt hotel, litteraly right across the street the freaks were (and still are) camped out in the star wars line for lingingup.net
    waiting for star wars at the chinese theatre where its 100 percent positive not playing at come may 19th.cause paramount who co-owns the theatre along with warner bros. is playing parmounts movie the longest yard there instead and fox didnt want to book it at the theatre for 1 week only.

    Ive attended a few premiere parties held at the roosevelt hotel and i can say that they defiantely know how to host a event there.
    Johny Grant the honorary mayor of hollywood also lives in the pent house of the roosevelt


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Flash?? Where's the .torrent? | Report this post to moderator
By: Xax (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:29:17 on Apr 14, 2005

Why oh why don't websites host media with BitTorrent??


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  • RE: Flash?? Where's the .torrent? | Report this post to moderator
    By: GrapesOfWrathOfKhan! (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:06:27 on Apr 14, 2005

    Everyone has flash. Only geeks have bittorrent. lawbreaking geeks at that.


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    • RE: Flash?? Where's the .torrent? | Report this post to moderator
      By: Ryokan (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:10:15 on Apr 14, 2005

      I guess Blizzard, just to mention one company, are lawbreaking geeks then, since they used torrents to distribute their beta of World of Warcraft.

      Bit Torrent isn't only used to distribute illegal warez. In fact, it was designed for non-illegal distribution, which is why the security for the user is so low (anyone can connect to a torrent and see the IP of everyone else connected to a torrent.).


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By: MikeJonas (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:39:17 on Apr 14, 2005

Braga: "I think our aim to revolve it more around the characters and less around the science fiction plot-driven stories did hurt the show."

WTF? What show is he talking about? He so deserves a smack upside the head.


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    By: RussTC3 (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:11:13 on Apr 14, 2005

    All, very interesting. Here are a couple good ones:
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    TrekWeb.com: "Do you think that hardcore group of fans is enough to keep a star trek show on network television?"
    Scott Bakula: "Oh, not on UPN, no."


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    TrekWeb.com: "Why do you think Enterprise didn't catch on?"

    John Billingsley: "Well as I've been kinda saying, I think some of it was not so much that Enterprise didn't catch on as it is that ever since Next Gen went off the air, the audience has been diminishing, and that was over a decade ago. I think it finally caught up to us. (A) combination of a network that had a small audience base to begin with, maybe didn't market it as well as it could have, the fans getting older, not being in the most attractive demographic. It's kind of the perfect storm in a way, everything conspired to demand that the show go away."


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    By: Sennik (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:03:29 on Apr 14, 2005

    Actually, and I am a HUGE Braga and Berman basher, I know what he's talking about. The first 2 seasons they did try to do stories that were more about characters, and less about a new alien race or some such. The Travis episode really sticks out as an episode that showed that's what they were trying to do early on. Unfortunately, the reason it wasn't popular wasn't because fans don't like that and we only want action explosions and starship battles. It was because Braga and Berman didn't do it well. The episodes didn't build on one another, we didn't get a sense they were learning anything, and they were just one self-contained episode after another. Braga and Berman just couldn't wrap their small minds around how to really develop characters well, and when they figured that out they went back to the easy lazy writing of just having space battles, new bad alien races, a big super weapon, and so on.

    That Braga uses season 4 as an example of how they're doing sci-fi stuff instead of character stuff shows he's not really even watching the show this year. The space nazis was stupid. The augment arc was ok, but more action than anything else. The Vulcan arc was a damage control arc to fix the problems Braga and Berman caused in the first 3 years. And then we got to the good episodes. The Klingon arc had a lot of character moments, and even put Phlox center stage, something Braga and Berman barely ever did. Observer Effect was all character. The transporter episode was also basically a character study. This season has been good BECAUSE of the character moments, not in spite of them like Braga seems to think.

    The only good thing about his interview was that he said this is probably his last hurrah with Star Trek. AMEN to that! Bye Braga. Have a nice life doing something else. Maybe I'll see your name in the credits of the next Spongebob Squarepants movie. Actually even Spongebob has more intelligent writing than most of his Enterprise and Voyager run.


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    • If you missed the character development, you weren't paying attention! | Report this post to moderator
      By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:50:38 on Apr 14, 2005

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      It was because Braga and Berman didn't do it well.

      Au contraire... Look at how much we learned about the characters in season one alone:

      Archer: Watches water polo.
      T'Pol: Logical. Is quite certain time travel doesn't happen.
      Trip: Has the nickname "Trip".
      Reed: Likes pineapples.
      Hoshi: Gets space-sick.
      Mayweather: Has a zero-g spot (although he calls it his "sweet spot").
      Phlox: Has a pen pal.
      Porthos: Likes cheese. (For a dog, this is pretty deep!)

      And look at how the characters grew throughout the first two years!

      Archer: Learned to escape capture. (Often this involves waiting for crew to rescue him.) Practice makes perfect!
      T'Pol: Having travled through time, is no longer quite as certain that time travel doesn't happen, but usually says it can't all the same.
      Trip: Has a sister. Wait, strike that.
      Reed: Along with pineapples, also likes T'Pol's bum.
      Hoshi: No longer space-sick.
      Mayweather:
      Phlox: Has three wives. Is not pen pals with any of them.
      Porthos: Occasionally urinates on sacred relics, which seems an apt metaphor for something...

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        By: Gary P (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:48:59 on Apr 15, 2005

        I agree with both of these posts. I remember when I first saw the episode when Archer let his dog loose on that new planet and the dog pissed everywhere. The aliens got pissed and Archer was like, "screw them." I sat there and thought to myself, "Great character development. Archer is developing into an inconsiderant, adolescent-mannered prick." Which begs the question, is character-development comendable on a show like this when the characteristics are incompetence, irrationality and unlikeability? I thought Janeway suffered from this as well. Sure, they're developing her character. Unfortunately, that character is irrational, hot-headed, and perpetually hypocritical. Why tune in to watch characters when the viewer thinks they could clearly do a better job, AND without any Starfleet Training.

        I also think people miss the point about character development and its manner of execution. In a show like Trek, character development runs ALONGSIDE the action; it does not replace it. People's decisions in lieu of what's going on DEFINES their character, hence you have character development. B+B don't understand this. They think character development occurs in bubble episodes, when people are in sickbay or having lunch. Bragga thinks, "Oh they're sitting around talking to each other. Time to develope the characters." Then when the action begins, have them talk about shield strength and that's it. Ron Moore understood this. Look at the great episodes of TNG. Characters weren't developed by sitting around. The PLOT revealed their character. Examples, "the drumhead" with Picard. Forgive me, I don't know many episode titles, but let's look at Worf and that Dying Romulan who he needed a bodily donation from him. "I would rather die, than pollute my body with Klingon Filth." That line alone sends chills down my spine every time I hear it. Worf to Alexander, "You have never seen death before? Then look, and always remember." Beautiful. To make a short story long, plot drives character, dinner conversations do not.


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          By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:16:22 on Apr 15, 2005

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          I also think people miss the point about character development and its manner of execution. In a show like Trek, character development runs ALONGSIDE the action; it does not replace it.

          Absolutely. This is one of the reasons why shows like Alias and Lost are such successes, and why Farscape was and Battlestar Galactica is critically acclaimed. The episodes you mentioned ("The Drumhead", "The Enemy", and "Reunion" respectively, if I'm not mistaken) are wonderful examples, but Deep Space Nine was where this truly thrived. Consider these:

          "The Jem'Hadar" developed the relationships between Sisko, Jake, and Nog. "Nor the Battle to the Strong" showed a side of Jake that we had never seen before and would never see again, but it was completely consistent with his character. "Call to Arms"... Where do I start? Dax and Worf get engaged, Ziyal kisses Garak, Rom and Leeta marry, Odo and Kira agree to put their relationship on hold until after the war, and those are just the romantic developments. Jake takes another step out on his own by staying behind on the station, forcing Sisko to acknowledge that he is old enough to make his own choices. All of these were "action" episodes. Two of them were season finales.

          Consider some other plot-havy episodes. If I have to explain why I'm mentioning "The Visitor", you haven't seen the episode. A few years back fans voted this the best episode of any Star Trek series in a TV Guide poll, topping even "The City on the Edge of Forever" (and rightfully so, IMHO, although both are wonderful episodes). "Hard Time" may be my favorite episode of all time. O'Brien shows a complex, tortured character like we've rarely seen on Trek, actually going so far as to nearly commit suicide. (Although I'm focusing on DS9, this also brings to mind the sorta-similar "The Inner Light" from TNG.)

          Now, minimizing story and trapping characters in a situation can be a great way to develop characters as well. Just look at "Explorers", "Starship Down". "Heart of Stone", etc. Of course, many of the best character developments are hard to quantify or identify as an actors, writers, and directors create multi-faceted personalities over a period of time, developing archetypical characters (or, in some case, blank slates) into multi-faceted characters that seem like real people.

          Enterprise never got around to it. Some of the characters (*cough*Mayweather*cough*) actually felt less developed by the end of the series.

          In all fairness, this season seemed to finally be fixing it. Reed's character received a much-needed boost when we saw him as a (self-)tortured Section 31 operative, T'Pol grew as we saw her interactions with her family, Hoshi gained some new (if slightly bizarre) background, Archer became a stronger character, etc. A shame it came so late... I'm curious where they were going. Shame we won't ever know for sure.

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    By: Locutus (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:51:19 on Apr 14, 2005 | Edit History (1)

    I totally agree.

    Not only that, but ...

    Braga: "And it wasn't until the third season when we went back to that, or the fourth season when we went back to that, that viewers started coming back and it did start to catch on."

    So was it the third or the fourth? I think it was the fourth buddy, when you stopped writing the episodes. And honestly, at what point had "viewers started coming back." The viewers NEVER CAME BACK! That's why it got CANCELLED you dipshit.

    Sorry, I'm not usually one of the Braga-Bashers, but that quote really left a bad taste in my mouth.

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    ~Picard


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Where is Jolene ? | Report this post to moderator
By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:59:21 on Apr 14, 2005 | Edit History (1)

So Ms Blalock didnt attend the wrap party ? Odd.

BTW, great reporting, Steve ! Kudos to TrekWeb for the scoop.

Gustavo

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    By: Sennik (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:52:02 on Apr 14, 2005

    I don't think it's odd. She called the finale "appalling" and has repeatedly expressed her less-than-happy opinion of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga publicly. She probably didn't want to be at a wrap party for a series that she felt, if it had better producers, wouldn't be ending right now.


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By: Schpock (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:43:50 on Apr 14, 2005

Life goes on...

...and eventually, so will Star Trek.

I think that the new incarnation of Star Trek holds the potential to be awesome. Like the leap forward that TMP held over TOS as far as really making it all work, being visually stunning ('cause, let's face it, the CGI in almost every space oriented sci-fi fare is starting to look generic and homogenous) and written by a hand that understands and appreciates what Star Trek represents in our culture.

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To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And, at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between, plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big 'thing.' This is truth, to me.


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By: giventofly462 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:07:34 on Apr 14, 2005

It's really interesting to hear from the cast and crew after all this. All of them, especially Mr. Braga, showed a relative amount of grace. They weren't bitter or angry, but accepted it for what it was. I hope they all move on to bigger and better things in the future.


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By: EntFan! (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:36:38 on Apr 14, 2005

This will probably be one of the last pieces of news for a while...man, what a run...

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"My old friend, this song's for you. Cause a few simple verses was the least that I could do to tell the world that you were here. Cause the love and the laughter, will live on long after all of the sadness and the tears. We'll meet again, my old friend"

Tim McGraw "My Old Friend"
Dedicated To My Home..New Orleans


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    By: shuggy (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:09:00 on Apr 14, 2005

    A bit tearful here!!!!!!... i will miss my yearly dose of trek shows...

    So tell me what gonna happen to trekweb... are you still gonna be here?

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      By: EntFan! (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:51:11 on Apr 14, 2005

      There's thousands of hours of episodes to chat about, surely it'll be here, just new information will be scare and few and far between...

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      "My old friend, this song's for you. Cause a few simple verses was the least that I could do to tell the world that you were here. Cause the love and the laughter, will live on long after all of the sadness and the tears. We'll meet again, my old friend"

      Tim McGraw "My Old Friend"
      Dedicated To My Home..New Orleans


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