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"The Aenar" Finishes Andorian, Romulan Arc on Weak Note, Says Deus

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By O. Deus / 07:20, 14 February 2005 / ENTERPRISE Reviews

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Reviews Ex Deus

Title: "The Aenar"

Overall: 6.5
Performances: 7
Writing: 5.5
Direction: 6.5
FX & Prod Value: 6.5


Synopsis: Archer and Shran's quest to stop the Romulan drone takes them to Andoria and an Andorian sub-species of blind telepathic pacifists.

Review: "The Aenar" is not a bad episode or a particularly good one. As an episode that stands on its own it's reminiscent of some TOS and TNG episodes, though still dramatically weak. As a follow-up to a three part series of episodes dealing with the birth of the Federation and the rise of the Romulan menace, it's effectively a no-show. If "Unity" sidelined much of the alliance and the Romulan threat in favor of Shran's desire for vengeance, "The Aenar" sidelines much of it in favor of well...the Aenar themselves.

The Aenar are interesting in some ways and if nothing else can be said for ENTERPRISE it has managed to explore the Andorians far more than STAR TREK ever has. It's not the best epitaph for a series but it's better than no epitaph at all. Still, where "Babel One" and even "United" were laying the groundwork for the birth of the Federation, "The Aenar" isn't laying the groundwork for much in particular. Ultimately the Andorian trilogy fails because it feels the need to drag in too many divergent elements to the point that it increasingly loses its dramatic focus and by "The Aenar" has no clear point.

In "Babel One" Enterprise was dealing with a Romulan threat and the need to bring about peace between Andorians and Tellarites. In "United," Enterprise crafted an alliance between them to stop the Romulan threat. In "The Aenar," the Tellarites are discarded and the alliance has really come to nothing, failing to stop the Romulan drone, and so the solution comes from the telepathic link between an Andorian brother and sister. It's not an entirely uninteresting story but it's not the birth of the Federation either.

The hidden underground city and its interiors and the Aenar themselves do seem like a TOS throwback though the situation lacks the intensity TOS would have invested in it. By a convenient coincidence of course it is also the sister of the kidnapped Aenar who encounters Archer and Shran. Though the Aenar are secretive and no more than a handful of Andorians have ever seen an Aenar, they seem to have no problem inviting Archer and Shran to their hidden underground city and have contacts with the Andorian government. Quite a lot for a half-mythical species barely anyone believed existed. Thus while "The Aenar" is a throwback to TOS, it also feels like a throwback to ENTERPRISE's first season.

The Romulan story has become increasingly weak, being limited to political tension that Brian Thompson is simply not capable of carrying. His tale of being a former disgraced Senator who questioned the warmongering of the Romulan Empire might have added depth to the Admiral's character an episode ago but is now just a detail thrown in far too late and performed by an actor not at all capable of using it to add subtlety and depth to the character. THE X-FILES understood Brian Thompson's limitations and used him appropriately. ENTERPRISE made him the chief antagonist and then kept him safe far from the action. This is not the ideal formula for great drama and it's no surprise that it doesn't deliver any great or even particularly mediocre drama.

Jeffery Combs is still doing his best as Shran and bonds far better with the Aenar girl than he did with Talas and remains the most watchable part of the episode. Scott Bakula has improved a good deal since the first season and there has been real growth to his character. By contrast Connor Trineer's Trip and Jolene's T'Pol remain tedious and annoying and their soap opera detracts from what strengths "The Aenar" has by burdening the episode with yet more silly dramatics. It's almost enough to make one appreciate sitting through Paris and Torres' soap opera. At least there was more yelling and Klingon weapons and less passive aggressive whining. Now Trip is asking for a transfer and Archer seems to be the only one left on board Enterprise who doesn't know about him and T'Pol.

It isn't as if anything can save ENTERPRISE now despite the well-intentioned if ultimately futile attempts to influence UPN and Paramount executives; still, with this being quite possibly the last year of STAR TREK ever, it would have been nice if the series had produced a higher level of quality towards its end. "Babel One" had the potential to lead to a truly great and memorable three-part episode that dealt with the Romulans and the birth of the Federation and perhaps justified ENTERPRISE's existance. Instead it stands out as a strong episode followed by increasing mediocrity.

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The effects were the best | Report this post to moderator
By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:02:08 on Feb 17, 2005

I absolutely LOVED the effects! These iceworlds just look better and better!

When it comes to the story, I am satisfied but since everyone wants me to be critical: There was a few scenes that felt like they were cut down in length either to save time, or because they weren't good enough. The story-flow felt disconnected because of it, IMO.

But the romulan characters got a little more fleshed out, the acting was good, and the story made sense although parts of it felt slightly like a cartoon.


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Save us! | Report this post to moderator
By: Hepkat (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:50:25 on Feb 16, 2005 | Edit History (1)

Oh merciful God in heaven above, how much longer must we suffer the tyranny of this abominable creation? The Vulcans initiated First Contact with Humanity over 90 years ago, hasn't it already dawned on Trip that they are NOT capable of returning his affections? Now in a dramatic display of grand stupidity and self-pity, he has requested a transfer off the ship. This last scene between Trip and Archer felt so affected and contrived that if its purpose was to engender some sort of compassion for Trip's dilemma, then it failed most miserably. I felt nothing, nada, zilch, zero emotion. Good riddance, was all I could say.

If anyone thinks I'm being too harsh, ask yourselves this question, if a member of Enterprise were killed off, how would people react? Now ask yourselves the same question in regards to TNG. Even the Christian Science Monitor, for Pete's sake, did a report on how uninteresting these characters are!

Can't wait for the final episode of this series to air. At this point, I'm only watching out of pure loyalty to the franchise.


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    By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:06:22 on Feb 17, 2005

    In terms of character depth, ENT and VOY are pretty much the same. It's not the shows biggest strength. But the shows have other strengths,that makes up for this weakness, at least in many peoples opinion.


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Another spot on review | Report this post to moderator
By: Peacekeeper (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:16:00 on Feb 15, 2005

The episode was indeed weak and felt hurried up. It felt to me that somehow they heard that cancellation storm is not going to miss them so they just let-go of all the momentum they build so adequately about BOTF in the last two episdoes.
Enterprise hit & miss tradition continues. Its not hard to see why Enterprise got cancelled.


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Not Bad | Report this post to moderator
By: NAFF (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:54:14 on Feb 15, 2005

A fair review. It was still an enjoyable episode, though. Somehow the pacing was just right for a change.


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Reviewing a dead series | Report this post to moderator
By: Sennik (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:04:04 on Feb 14, 2005

I've never been a fan of O.Deus's reviews. From way back in season 2 I thought his reviews were negative towards Enterprise just for the sake of being negative. If he had solid reasons for his dislike of an episode, it would be one thing, but it seems like he just doesn't like Enterprise, and where the writers have taken the series in the past 4 years. I detest what Berman & Braga have done to the franchise, but even I can be objective when watching an episode. The whole Trip/T'Pol romance felt forced last season, because it was forced on us. And it wasn't written well at all. With someone new behind the scenes, it is coming along much better. Maybe it was just me, but I thought the scenes between Trip and T'Pol in "The Aenar" were acted quite well, and they were given good dialogue to work with. Also, the parts of the episode with Archer and Shran meeting the Aenar had a strong feel of TOS. And that is a good thing. Yes, TOS would've spent the episode with Kirk and co. on Andor meeting this new culture, but on Enterprise this was part of a larger story and that just wasn't possible. Perhaps a wasted opportunity, but the series is dead anyway.

Also, O.Deus shows his complete lack of objectivity when he complains that the bad Romulan guys were always on the planet, far removed from the action. Does he not remember TOS episode where it's stated no one has seen a Romulan before? Wouldn't make much sense for Trip and Reed to run into someone who looks a lot like a Vulcan when they were rummaging around the drone vessel, now would it? I think that would throw continuity out the window, which O.Deus would then complain about. The fact that the Aenar are blind also preserves continuity because they can't possibly know what a Romulan looks like either. I thought that was a nice touch, something O.Deus didn't even comment on.

The Aenar had a nice touch of TOS to it, and wrapped up the 3 part arc while setting up the stage for the episodes coming up leading to the big series finale in May. It could've been better, yes, but we can say that about all 4 years of Enterprise. Give the series some credit for at least trying to be a good show.


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  • RE: Reviewing a dead series | Report this post to moderator
    By: O. Deus (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:15:33 on Feb 14, 2005

    If he had solid reasons for his dislike of an episode, it would be one thing, e[i]

    My reasons are spelled out in the review

    [i] Also, O.Deus shows his complete lack of objectivity when he complains that the bad Romulan guys were always on the planet, far removed from the action. Does he not remember TOS episode where it's stated no one has seen a Romulan before? Wouldn't make much sense for Trip and Reed to run into someone who looks a lot like a Vulcan when they were rummaging around the drone vessel, now would it? I think that would throw continuity out the window, which O.Deus would then complain about.


    I know quite well it would violate continuity to encounter a Romulan but it's possible for the Enterprise crew not to see the Romulans without the romulans being out of harm's way which weakens the drama. If you remember it worked quite well on TOS and in Minefeld on Enterprise where the Romulans were there or even on Kir'Shara.

    The fact that the Aenar are blind also preserves continuity because they can't possibly know what a Romulan looks like either. I thought that was a nice touch, something O.Deus didn't even comment on.

    None of the Aenar besides the one who was captured saw any Romulans so this makes no sense.


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The Aenar was the point of the arc | Report this post to moderator
By: Nuclearmothman (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:42:52 on Feb 14, 2005 | Edit History (1)

O. Deus has clearly missed the point of the arc. It wasn't about the "birth of the Federation" at all. That there is an temporary alliance of bitter enemies that will eventually lead to the founding of an overarching organization called the UPF is really only a subplot. The arc is really a mystery story. The mystery? Who attacked Shran's ship at the beginning of "Babel One." THAT is what this arc is about.

Each episode of the arc revealed more and more pieces of the mystery. In "Babel One" the Andorians and the Tellerites each accuse the other in the attacks. It is only when Enterprise gets involved that it's revealed (to the characters) that it's a "chameleon" ship capable of disguising itself as another vessel. (We the audience are let in on the fact that it's the Romulans behind it all).

The revelation that the ship has no crew, but is being piloted remotely leads to the next mystery. Who is piloting the ship? That is revealed at the end of "United." But who is that albino Andorian with the glaucomic eyes?

The answer to that mystery is answered in "The Aenar." We learn that the pilot is Gareb, kidnapped "some time ago" while hunting the snow-worms. We learn the Aenar are blind and psychic, and are pacifists. We learn Gareb has a sister, Jhamel, who willingly goes against the pacifist code of her people to help her brother. Ultimately, Gareb realizes the harm he's done and helps destroy the probes, even at the cost of his own life.

A weak ending? Hardly. The arc ended exactly as it should. The mystery is solved, the bad guys are thwarted (for the time being), the Andorians and the Tellerites learn they can get along, at least for a little while.

EDIT: Oops! I should have posted a "SPOILER WARNING" in the subject line. My apologies to anyone who hasn't seen the arc.

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Enterprise handles things a little differently than other Treks | Report this post to moderator
By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:39:14 on Feb 14, 2005

Specifically, multi-part episodes.

For TOS, TNG, Voyager, and parts of Deep Space Nine, multi-part episodes were usually treated as a single long episode with a cliffhanger at the end of each part (other than the last, of course).

For Enterprise, or at least the fourth season of it, they seem to be treating it as a mini-serialization of the show, where each part is usually a self-contained story in addition to being part of the larger story. This has held true to various extents for the Soong arc, the Vulcan arc, and the Andorian arc. In addition to the main story that continues (sometimes almost in the background), each episode brings in (and finishes) enough elements that it can stand fairly well on its own. This is something that was seen previously in DS9 in the are-they-multipart-or-aren't-they episodes that comprised the beginning of season 6 (when the Dominion controlled the station) and the series finale. Others are a little closer to TNG's "Birthright", where the B-plot of Data's dreams about his creator started and ended in Part I, with the Worf story comprising the entirety of Part II.

Personally, I like the flexibility that Enterprise has been using lately, dancing back and forth between single episodes, mult-part episodes, and serialization, but it also makes it a little harder for me to judge the episodes as beginnings or ends of arcs, even when that is a major part of the episode. After all, even "The Aenar" ended with quite a cliffhanger, even though it marked the "end" of the story.

As a stand-alone episode, I thought it was very strong, as was its immediate predecessor. I don't know if either quite lived up to "Babel One", but I've definitely enjoyed each of them quite a bit on their own merits. As I've said a thousand times before, why did they have to cancel the show just when it was getting good???

Unrelated, a quick question for you, Deus: I've noticed that, whereas most of the fans have either been singing the praises of season four or bashing it (frequently without watching it), you've definitely been more evenhanded, indicating that the season has had a lot of ups and downs, with seemingly more of the latter. I was wondering if you agreed with Manny Coto's assessment that this season was about on the same par as seasons one and three, rather than "the best season ever" as many (myself included) proclaim? I personally thouught that Coto was being far too modest, but I was wondering what your thought was on the matter.

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    By: O. Deus (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:19:50 on Feb 14, 2005

    Yes season 4 to me seems to be a new approach but not the best season, it's different than season 1 or 3 and like them has strenghts and weaknesses. I think Coto has the most potential but that potential isn't fully realized and now won't ever be. My view of Season 4 is more positive than many accuse me of holding but it's far from spectacular and has quite a few defects but it's far truer to TOS and there is a more consistent overall quality.


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    By: Cylykon (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:14:40 on Feb 14, 2005

    Yeah, I noticed that about Enterprise. I quit voting in the episode polls over a year ago for the simple reason that most times, there isn't enough meat in any given episode to warrant more than a "I hope the effort that was spent in setting that up now gets the payoff it deserves later". I guess I'm still a bit jaded about being sucked in by B&B with their Temporal Cold War shenanigans.

    "Future Guy" may as well have been "Interphase Kirk" appearing randomly in random episodes for the last four years and then never revisited again.... IOW, a swift kick to every fanboy's satchel! (not that I don't think they could use one, but it should be delivered by another fanboy, not B&B)


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"United" was alot better than what Dues gave it credit for | Report this post to moderator
By: Bucky (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:46:30 on Feb 14, 2005

I do agree with Aenar seemed sort of tacked on to the whole thing. the birth of the Federation was the underlying theme that drove the first two episodes. This was just a way that wrapped it up that barely considered the first two episodes in there.

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uh... | Report this post to moderator
By: JediFonger (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:32:58 on Feb 14, 2005

babel1&united were great because one event in babel1 affected another in united. it should be a two parter... but we're left with aenar, the leftover! it's like @the end of united we reveal... THE AENAR! it's totally retarded. this shoulda been a standalone episode.

the worst problem with the episode was "shran left behind to help us track down the marauder"... what? why in hell would he do that?

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Finale Concerns | Report this post to moderator
By: jdm (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:00:04 on Feb 14, 2005


I'v enojoyed Enterprise since the beginning. And its really kicked it into high gear this season. I only hope that the PTBs don't leave us with a cliffhanger for a series finale. We all recall that the PTBs over at Angel said they were going to give closure to the series. Some of the arcs were concluded, but it left us with a hell of a cliffhanger.

Don't get me wrong, I thought "The Aenar" was a fine episode.

But in my opinion, the second arc episode "United" could had been a good series finale. You had an awesome shot of a multi-alien fleet. The precursor of the Federation.


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Great Review - Honest and to the point | Report this post to moderator
By: OzOr (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:54:06 on Feb 14, 2005

If you read between the lines of Deus's review I think he wasn't bashing the show but was wondering what happened to the "arc and birth of the federation". They were trying to please too many people in these three scripts instead of just focusing in on one powerful theme.

Good job Deus


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    By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:20:19 on Feb 14, 2005

    If you read between the lines of I'Diot's review, what you find is empty space... the same thing that no doubt lies between his ears.


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      By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:03:25 on Feb 15, 2005

      And they say the bashers are mean...

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Why even bother | Report this post to moderator
By: jamesrkirk (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:27:41 on Feb 14, 2005

As I have said before I have had, and continue to have, real issues with Deus's reviews.........

That said, why are we even bothering with reviews at this point. Enterprise is dead, as is, for the short term, the future of the franchise. Why waste time, effort, and bandwidth with a negative review. What do you hope to prove? That the show will get better in your opinion between now and May? That Manny will read the review and go "Damn he's right, let's take the last episodes and address these issues."

Beating a dead horse is a waste of energy. Why are you still reviewing? I guess the only saving grace is that after May, when Trek passes away for the next decade or so, we won't have to deal with all the negative energy anymore, from BOTH sides of the debate.

I just wonder how Deus is going to deal with the unemployment. Perhaps start reviewing TOS episodes?


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    By: O. Deus (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:22:24 on Feb 14, 2005

    I review for the same reason I always reviewed. Nothing has changed except the show has no future.

    I was never 'employed' I am a star trek fan and I did this for the love of the series.


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Clearly not a Star Trek fan... | Report this post to moderator
By: NX-47 (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:58:21 on Feb 14, 2005

... not that you have to be a Star Trek fan to be a good reviewer... in fact, it probably helps to not be a fan of something that you review. I would think that it helps you to maintain your objectivity.

However, it is more clear to me now (more than ever) that you dislike Star Trek, and are more than likely hoping that Enterprise will be the end of the Star Trek franchise. You seem to actively look for faults, as opposed to objectively look for both the good points and the bad.

For example, you refer to the ongoing "soap opera" of Trip & T'Pol: while I don't argue the point of their being a mis-match and poorly handled last season, I do think that they have been hadled extremely well this season. Keep in mind that in ENT's timeframe, it's only been a couple of months for Trip. I don't know about you, but it's taken longer than a couple of months for me to get over past loves. Keep in mind that Trip & T'Pol work together, so he doesn't have the buffer of distance to help him deal with the end of the relationship.

Another example of your dislike of Star Trek: you barely touched on Shran's passion for the Aenar girl, only stating that they seemed to connect more than Shran and Talas. You seem to have forgotten that Andorians are passionate people, and by that nature are very intense. If you consider the overall circumstances surrounding Shran and the Aenar girl, I think that the intensity between Shran and the Aenar girl is understandable.

I don't expect any of this to sway your viewpoint, and that was not my intention. However, I do hope that you see that you no longer seem to be objective in your reviews of Enterprise. And that's unfortunate.

LLaP

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    By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:12:48 on Feb 14, 2005

    Hang on. O Deus said he liked the first part of this arc and he felt that it just ended weakly. And it did. Like I mentioned to another post, this went from a story about the creation of the alliance that will become the Federation to a story focusing on this brand new sub-species of the Andorians, as well as the trite Trip/T'Pol sub plot.

    It just wasn't that impressive an episode.

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      By: Nuclearmothman (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:06:35 on Feb 14, 2005

      The arc wasn't about the alliance, it was about the experimental remote-controlled Romulan probe. The arc was a mystery story, as I said in my other post. The mystery was solved by the end of the arc. The "birth of the Federation" is only a side note. Yes, eventually these races and more will form a United Federation of Planets, and yes, we saw the earliest beginnings, but this was far from the "birth" of the UFP, and far from what the arc was about.

      The arc was also clearly about fleshing out the Andorians, which is why it started with Shran on his smashed bridge, and ended with Shran and Jhamel leaving Enterprise. It was no accident that the mysterious remote pilot turned out to be a sub-species of Andorian.

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        By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:32:45 on Feb 14, 2005

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        Yes, it was. Otherwise why involve all four races in the story?

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        ...it was about the experimental remote-controlled Romulan probe.

        The probe was a plot device, nothing more.

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        The arc was a mystery story...

        It was no mystery to us who was behind it.

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        The mystery was solved by the end of the arc.

        What mystery? We know it's the Romulans, we find out the gimp (aka the pilot) was an Andorian sub-species. I didn't particularly care who the pilot was.

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        The "birth of the Federation" is only a side note.

        Not for the first two parts of the arc, it wasn't. It was a major element to the story.

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        Yes, eventually these races and more will form a United Federation of Planets, and yes, we saw the earliest beginnings, but this was far from the "birth" of the UFP, and far from what the arc was about.

        But such incidents are greater things born from.

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        The arc was also clearly about fleshing out the Andorians, which is why it started with Shran on his smashed bridge, and ended with Shran and Jhamel leaving Enterprise. It was no accident that the mysterious remote pilot turned out to be a sub-species of Andorian.

        That focus was not until the last part of the arc, when the Tellarites were abadoned completely in a rather hasty and half assed manner. This arc was not written well, and like The Augments arc it started out strong and ended weakly.

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      By: NX-47 (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:07:19 on Feb 14, 2005

      True; as the conclusion ep to the arc, it didn't seem to fit beyond resolving the Romulan Threat. I still enjoyed the episode, however, as I think it has many fine merits in and of itself.

      Nevertheless, O Deus (to me anyway) in his closing paragraph indicates that he considers Star Trek all but dead, and has all but written off Enterprise even though there are eight more episodes left. He states that "it would have been nice if the series had produced a higher level of quality towards its end." I, and many others (Including yourself, unless I'm mistaken), feel that this season has been of higher quality that all three preceeding seasons. Yet O Deus doesn't seem to share in that opinion.

      True, it's his opinion, and he's welcome to it (it's one of the great things about this board, the diversity of opinions). But as the official reviewer for TrekWeb, I expect him to be more objective than he comes across.

      LLaP

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    By: Terry212 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:38:40 on Feb 14, 2005

    While I'm not going to cast aspersions on Deus' identity as a "fan," I have to say that I once again disagree with the review. I expected to hate this episode based on the preview. I expected a battle between a T'Pol-run drone and an Aenar-run drone or something. All the Trip/T'pol and transfer stuff was really well done, I think. I hope Connor Trineer manages to go on to bigger and better things, as I think his portrayal of Trip has always been mature and multilayered, as opposed to a sort of hillbilly version of Scotty or something. Also, the scene between he and Phlox was great. Shran was wonderfully done. Yes, some of these plot devices had to be hurried along (the scene where the Aenar sister agrees or asks to accompany Archer and Shran to Enterprise being left out entirely!) but I understand that ENT has more commericals and less story time than DS9 or TNG did. And, hey, we knew she was going to go back to the ship with them. Okay, I wanted some more explanation about HOW they managed to get the brother Aenar to do what he did. Sure, he was told that he was the last of his kind...but why did that turn him into a weird murderer? I can think of a dozen reasons, but the real reason wasn't supplied. Yes, it would have been nice to have a Tellarite along for the ride, but that's okay. The Federation wasn't built in a day. All in all, though, the scripting and dialogue was very very appropriate for the characters. These people have VOICES that are ignored by some of the scriptwriters, but you could tell this writer was experienced and familiar with the characters.

    If this was Jeffrey Coombs' swan song on Trek, he did a wonderful job and I want to thank him for all of his roles---I enjoyed each one.

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    By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:26:58 on Feb 14, 2005

    Couldn't agree with you more. Is it too much to expect that the people running and contributing to this site be... GASP... Star Trek fans?

    I hereby suggest we rename this site TREKBASH.COM.


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Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:39:49 on Feb 14, 2005

With the prospect of Star Trek coming to an end, it would have been nice if Trekweb could've managed to wrangle the services of an intelligent reviewer.

Alas, all we get is O'Dios and his drivel.


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  • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
    By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:12:02 on Feb 17, 2005

    Lately I have wondered if not a review should be a collaborative effort. At least 3 people should get together in private and discuss an episode, then write a combined review. It would nicely balance opinion, and perhaps wipe out some occasional misunderstandings about the episode.


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  • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
    By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:09:26 on Feb 14, 2005

    "Drivel?" And where do you see that? He points out the trilogy started off strong (he gave the first part high marks) and ended up weak. A story about the alliance turned out to abandon two of the four races, introduced a sub-species of the Andorians (which was illogically written, as he pointed out) and held one massive coincidence in terms that the one person who can help is the brother of the captured Anear.

    I too tire of the Trip/T'Pol soap opera. It was handled poorly from the first season, when the writers couldn't decide who T'Pol should hook up with, Trip or Archer. And now Trip has been emasculated to such a point where he flees Enterprise rather than deal with his personal issues. For a character that showed great development in the Vulcan arc he has lost all the passion and guts he displayed there. Better to stick around and deal with his emotions, possibly even winning T'Pol back than to run away like a candy ass.

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    • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
      By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:18:34 on Feb 14, 2005

      Drivel is exactly right -- snarky, nit-picking drivel.

      If the arc HAD ended with the Tellarite, Andorians and the founding of the Federation, no QUESTION I'Diot would've trashed it as predictable and unimaginative.

      As for Trip leaving Enterprise... did it ever occur to anyone that he isn't in love with just anyone... but a VULCAN? It's possible he's being affected by more than just his feelings.



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      • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
        By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:44:06 on Feb 14, 2005

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        If the arc HAD ended with the Tellarite, Andorians and the founding of the Federation, no QUESTION I'Diot would've trashed it as predictable and unimaginative.

        And yet he gave praise to Babel One, citing it as being a strong episode.

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        As for Trip leaving Enterprise... did it ever occur to anyone that he isn't in love with just anyone... but a VULCAN? It's possible he's being affected by more than just his feelings.

        Elaborate, please. Are you suggesting he is being mind controlled somehow? That T'Pol has messed with him? If so, then that is weak; T'Pol doesn't seem the sort to be able to do anything like that, considering she just recently discovered she could mind meld...Which is still strange, considering how powerfully telepathic the Vulcan race is supposed to be. It's like saying to someone who can see, "I have eyes? No kidding?"

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        • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
          By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:18:20 on Feb 14, 2005

          I'm suggesting that there's a telepathic bond that's affecting Trip, one that even T'Pol is unconscious of.

          I don't think that's lame, I think it's ALIEN, which is what makes it interesting... if true.


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          • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
            By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:29:11 on Feb 14, 2005

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            I'm suggesting that there's a telepathic bond that's affecting Trip, one that even T'Pol is unconscious of.

            Then why didn't you say so in the first place?

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            I don't think that's lame, I think it's ALIEN, which is what makes it interesting... if true.

            Well, it would be just like B & B to decide that if the Vulcans are now all indeed telepathic-something they denied for three seasons-then Vulcans can unconsciously mess with the minds of others. It would not be interesting, it would be typical of B & B's sloppy short term thinking.

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            • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
              By: Phaethon (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:37:51 on Feb 14, 2005

              Ah, there we are, it was only a matter of time. You run out of arguments and you fall back on...

              ...B & B bashing!

              How dazzling and creative.


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              • RE: Another great episode... another imbecilic review... | Report this post to moderator
                By: katefan (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:51:40 on Feb 14, 2005

                Ah, there we are. I bring up two points; namely that your posts aren't very clear and that B & B following your train of logic merely makes them look like hypocrits, and your only recourse is to call it "bashing".


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