Well this is good news...
Brannon Braga is a talented writer, and Rick Berman knows his way around Trek. He kept the franchise alive for more than a decade.
I can't wait to see this episode completed, especially since this year is the first time in 15 years I'm being bored to death with Trek. This season is the worst so far. All the mass-hysteria (frankly, at this point, there is no other word for it) about M. Coto is just spooky.
The violence and insults in the posts below are way beyond immaturity : It's pathetic.
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We live in a world where too many people won't go far enough, do what they know is right, what they believe.
Frank Black - Millennium
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Violence? I guess you missed the sarcasm of my decapitation bit.
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Violence? I guess you missed the sarcasm of my decapitation bit.
Oh I realize it was sarcasm. But still, I was surprised to see you joking about beheadings.
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We live in a world where too many people won't go far enough, do what they know is right, what they believe.
Frank Black - Millennium
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Quote:"Brannon Braga is a talented writer, and Rick Berman knows his way around Trek. He kept the franchise alive for more than a decade."
hahahahaha MAN that is a good one and it is not even April 1st yet!
I mean to say that Braga is a talented writer despite the fact that his "writing resume" is empty is pretty funny. Berman keeping the franchise alive...oh yes those last 2 BIG Trek movies did well for the franchise along with the failure prequel series...oh yes...GOOD JOB! hahah
Quote:"especially since this year is the first time I'm being bored to death with Trek."
You miss "Dog in sick bay" episodes? More time travel diarrhea episode? or more continiuty errors?
Quote:"his season is the worst so far."
I have to disagree. S1 and S2 were ABSOLUTELY horrible. AND S3 was not that far behind it. S4 is the only good year this series ever had.
Quote:"The violence and insults in the posts below are way beyond immaturity : It's pathetic."
Not it is warrented! (I would say violence in giving B&B a great big kick in the ass on the way OUT is ok! hahah)
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You miss "Dog in sick bay" episodes?
My only regret about "A night in sickbay" is that it wasn't a three episodes mini-arc.
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More time travel diarrhea episode?
God I miss the Temporal Cold War...
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or more continiuty errors?
If there wasn't so much crap in pre-Berman Trek, writers wouldn't need to break "continuity" in the first place.
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I would say violence in giving B&B a great big kick in the ass on the way OUT is ok! hahah
Charming...
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Lost Horizon
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We live in a world where too many people won't go far enough, do what they know is right, what they believe.
Frank Black - Millennium
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Quote:"My only regret about "A night in sickbay" is that it wasn't a three episodes mini-arc.
Anyone who though that A Night In Sickbay was a good episode is not only a fool but is easily entertained with anything. That episode was horrible. And it was written by yours truly B&B.
Quote:"God I miss the Temporal Cold War..."
What was there to miss? The Nazi's? The sudden 180 of the future guy who they NEVER explained who the hell this dipshit was. The Temporal Cold War was nothing more than a silly idea that B&B came up with that went NO WHERE! I suspect Braga had more of a hand in it because all this fool knows how to do is silly time travel episodes. They had 2 seasons of TCW and it went NO where. It was this drawn out boring thing that was boring and told the audience nothing. It was typical nonsense Trek by Rick Berman and Braga Braga. The two men responsible for Star Trek's demise!
Quote:'If there wasn't so much crap in pre-Berman Trek, writers wouldn't need to break "continuity" in the first place.
What in the world does this mean? HOW hard was it to watch TOS and take notes? This was suppose to be a "prequel" series and these two IDIOTS couldn't even keep simple things straight. That is not only embarassing but incompetence at best! What the hell is the point of watching something for so long and it doesn't flow? What the hell is point in calling it a prequel show when in fact it has NOTHING to do with the other series. No tie in what so ever. The "Xindi" were not only stupid but a complete waste of time. S3 did nothing to enhance the prequel concept. S1 and S2 were so bad that it did little to almost nothing as well. You had 3 seasons of a prequel series that did nothing to show the foundations of the Federation. The very idea of what this failure of a series was suppose to be about. At least Coto heard the fans screaming that ENT was shit and did nothing prequel. What might have been a descent series has turned into a failure which will no doubt be regarded by Trek fans as the worst of the series. What did B&B do? We hear Braga yelling at fans for pointing out the continuity errors that he made. How sad is that! Let me remind you of one thing pal. Star Trek was CREATED by GENE RODDENBERRY not some dip shit named Rick Berman. Rick Berman is NO writer and his (and I use the term very loosely) body of work in Trek is NOTHING compared to what Gene and the others (DC Fontana) did during TOS. When Gene died it made the papers and it said the "creator of Star Trek died today". When Rick Berman dies, no one will care nor will it be in the papers. This fool thinks that Trek is his? He can guess again. The fans loath him and his arrogance. This includes his girlfriend Brannon (the weasel) Braga. A shinning example of this is their almost zero apperances at conventions. They don't show up because fans don't want to see them. They are afraid of having their egos bruised by the fans. What happened to that so called "staff of checkers" that Braga said checks for continuity errors. It is very sad that when the men who so called run trek for over 15 years can't keep their own shit straight. Then to cover up their embarrassment lash out at the fans who pointing out their incompetence.
Quote:"Charming...
Yes it is but in all reality a good swift kick out the door would do the fans who watch something so great crash into the ground feel a lot better. The only other thing that I know would make me feel better is watching B&B get their heads served to them on platters by diehards as they rip through their lousy writing and mistakes.
The fact that STXI is on the back burner. ENT has no B&B scripts this season and the fans are giving Coto praise is a nice way of seeing Berman get "the bird" from the fans and the studio!
I find your overall admiration for Berman to be most unusual and unfounded. It is very clear that these two men are responsible for Trek to become stagnet. It is very clear you have not been a fan of Trek for very long. You never saw Trek in its glory days of 20 million viewers a week compared to the dismal 3 million it gets now.
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Anyone who though that A Night In Sickbay was a good episode is not only a fool but is easily entertained with anything. That episode was horrible.
A night in sickbay was a wonderful episode. It was filled with clever humour, moving at times (Porthos' illness) and the way it dealt with promiscuity on a starship was very interesting. It was an important episode about the bond between Archer and Porthos. But I guess you don't care much for character development, do you ?
You know, intelligent Sci-Fi is not just about action, space battles and special effects. It's also about studying the human nature.
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The sudden 180 of the future guy who they NEVER explained who the hell this dipshit was.
This is exactly what made the TPW so clever : It left some parts in the dark. By choosing not to solve every problem, you leave the audience with their own imagination at work. This is why a show like ENT is not just about staring at your tv screen like some kind of vegetable : It makes you think as well.
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What in the world does this mean? HOW hard was it to watch TOS and take notes?
It's hard because TOS was not always good Sci-Fi. You just can't respect everything installed in TOS, and not pull the quality of ENT a few levels down at the same time.
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It is very sad that when the men who so called run trek for over 15 years can't keep their own shit straight
It is very hard to "keep your own shit straight" when you are constantly harrassed by a minority of loud talking TOS fans who can't accept any change in the franchise.
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It is very clear you have not been a fan of Trek for very long.
15 years, give or take a month or two. Granted, it must be less than you...
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You never saw Trek in its glory days of 20 million viewers a week compared to the dismal 3 million it gets now.
I did. But I couldn't care less about the ratings, now or then. I don't understand why people first check the ratings, and only then decide whether what they watched is good or not. I don't take the ratings into account when I decide if a like a TV show or not. If I did, my apreciation of TOS would be even worse.
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Lost Horizon
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We live in a world where too many people won't go far enough, do what they know is right, what they believe.
Frank Black - Millennium
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Quote:A night in sickbay was a wonderful episode. It was filled with clever humour, moving at times (Porthos' illness) and the way it dealt with promiscuity on a starship was very interesting. It was an important episode about the bond between Archer and Porthos. But I guess you don't care much for character development, do you ?
I've got to admit - I'm in the apparent minority that liked "A Night in Sickbay." Of course, I'm a dog fan.
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Quote:The sudden 180 of the future guy who they NEVER explained who the hell this dipshit was.
This is exactly what made the TPW so clever : It left some parts in the dark. By choosing not to solve every problem, you leave the audience with their own imagination at work. This is why a show like ENT is not just about staring at your tv screen like some kind of vegetable : It makes you think as well.
Now this I didn't like. It reminds me of the horrible Twin Peaks movie that raised more questions than it answered. Or Matrix Revolutions. I honestly don't think B&B left it a mystery to make anyone think. More likely they just never had a clue who he was themselves, as Braga has stated more than once. From a production point of view, this is just bad writing. Why even include the character in the first point? If he has no role to play in the drama (or comedy, or whatever_, he should be cut.[eq]
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Quote:"A night in sickbay was a wonderful episode. It was filled with clever humour, moving at times (Porthos' illness) and the way it dealt with promiscuity on a starship was very interesting. It was an important episode about the bond between Archer and Porthos. But I guess you don't care much for character development, do you ?
Don't give me that crap about "character development". You have 2 cast members that are never used and you could almost put one more (Malcolm) on that list as well. The dog? I don't care to see any episode where the captain for the entire episode was blubbering over his stupid mutt. I am not interesting in seeing an episode dedicated to each charcater. The best way to see and learn about character is through "story" and things mentioned on the side. I don't need to see an entire episode dedicated to "one" specific character just to let the audience see this character. If you think A Night In Sickbay was wondering and humorous. Then you must of been disappointed when "Dodge Ball" was NOT nominated for an Oscar. It will remain one of the worst episode for ENT and for Trek as a whole. Right next to "Threshold, Datas Day and Spocks Brain".
Quote:"You know, intelligent Sci-Fi is not just about action, space battles and special effects. It's also about studying the human nature.
I never said it wasn't. Please show me where I said that exactly? Wasting an entire episode over the mutt was far from intelligent Sci-Fi. It was ridiculous.
Quote:"This is exactly what made the TPW so clever : It left some parts in the dark. By choosing not to solve every problem, you leave the audience with their own imagination at work. This is why a show like ENT is not just about staring at your tv screen like some kind of vegetable : It makes you think as well.
That is absolutely nonsense! You give us a "villain" for over 2 seasons and never bothered to explain the background as to why this person was attacking ENT etc. Then it does a 180 by helping explain the Xindi to Archer. It was a very poorly conceived concept (Typical of B&B) which was so bad that it had to be scrapped completely for the retarded Xindi arc because the fans were not interested in this crap anymore. The TCW was and will be consider a bad memory.
Quote:"It's hard because TOS was not always good Sci-Fi.
It is the basis of Star Trek. It was that little 60's series that went into syndication and became a huge hit with a cult following. There are many episodes of TOS which are classic Sci-Fi. Your comment is complete nonsense. It does not excuse B&B from taking notes from it. Of course that would mean they would of had to watched some of it. Which we both know they didn't.
Quote:"You just can't respect everything installed in TOS, and not pull the quality of ENT a few levels down at the same time.
This answer is complete nonsense and does not validity the simple fact that B&B were too stupid and too lazy to take notes of TOS. I expect ENT to follow ALL the continuity of TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY. Since the two men that you love so much have been around since TNG. It is sad and shows a level of complete incompetence that they could NOT keep timelines, characters and various other things straight. As for the quality level. Had ENT had half of the quality level of TOS it would not be on the verge AGAIN of being canceled. For the 1960's TOS was ground breaking. For 2005, ENT is ground crashing!!
Quote:"It is very hard to "keep your own shit straight" when you are constantly harrassed by a minority of loud talking TOS fans who can't accept any change in the franchise.
Another cop out excuse which holds no validity. You really have no idea what you are talking about. By changing know facts of Trek history you are not adding anything to it but taking away. The fact that fans pointed out blantly continuity errors only shows that the fans "paid attention" unlike Berman. We are going to say Vulcans for 35 years suppress their emotions. Along comes Berman the dick and we just toss that idea out of the window. I don't think so.
A perfect example of typical Berman laziness is Generations. Soran punches the Duras sister in the mouth. The blood is red. In STVI, the movie BEFORE Generation the killing of the Gorgon shows Klingon blood to be a light purple colour. The ONLY reason why fans pointed this out is due to the fact that STVI was nominated for an Oscar for special effects. Berman was too stupid and too lazy to keep that in mind when he made that piece of crap Generations. The fact that fans find the errors over management only shows you who really is "paying attention" and who "really cares".
Quote:"15 years, give or take a month or two. Granted, it must be less than you...
Over 25 years and it is very sad when these pseudo Trek fans like yourself cop an attitude like this. It is almost embarrassing. Please do us real fans a favor and go watch that silly revamp of BSG.
Quote:"I did. But I couldn't care less about the ratings, now or then.
Then you are a fool. Ratings are not the "end all" but they are a very good indicator of how many people are actually ENJOY the show week after week. To go from 20 million to 3, keeping in mind that ENT's pilot had 14 million to start. Is very sad! It shows you that no one finds this show the least bit interesting. This coming from a fan base that was so loyal.
Quote:"I don't understand why people first check the ratings,
I don't check the ratings first. However ratings are important. Too bad you are not smart enough to see that.
Quote:"and only then decide whether what they watched is good or not.
Don't be so stupid. People watch shows they like. If they stop liking it they go and watch something else. Nobody goes "oh that show has high ratings I got to watch it week after week even if I don't like it".
Quote:" I don't take the ratings into account when I decide if a like a TV show or not.
Nobody else does either. I don't know where you think people are telling you this. Just more delusional thinking on your part.
Quote:"If I did, my apreciation of TOS would be even worse.
Suddenly you appreciate TOS in some way? Wow....
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I won't adress much of your previous post because, believe or not, I agree with most of it. But I thank you for the time you spent answering me.
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A perfect example of typical Berman laziness is Generations. Soran punches the Duras sister in the mouth. The blood is red. In STVI, the movie BEFORE Generation the killing of the Gorgon shows Klingon blood to be a light purple colour.
Do you really think it is Berman's fault ? Do you really think it is the head producer's job to keep all those details in mind ?
I think it is more Braga's & moore's fault, or even some second assistant's who's supposed to pay attention to theis kind of things.
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The ONLY reason why fans pointed this out is due to the fact that STVI was nominated for an Oscar for special effects.
I fail to see the connection. Are you implying that if the movie wasn't nominated, fans wouldn't pay attention to such details ?
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The fact that fans find the errors over management only shows you who really is "paying attention" and who "really cares".
Since I'm being the devil's advocate here, I could point out that fans have only one thing to do : Watch the movie. Management people have a zillion things to take care of at the same time. Nobody's perfect.
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Lost Horizon
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We live in a world where too many people won't go far enough, do what they know is right, what they believe.
Frank Black - Millennium
Here are some predictions...
The finale will be Braga's last contribution to Trek. Berman will completely move into the background focusing on cheerleading for the movie; he will not write the movie and probably won't develop the story. Coto will lead the show into Season 5 which will end Enterprise's run.
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"a 1701-class Federation Starship"
I'm just curious if this is a hint they are bringing in Shatner?
In the end however, I can't focus on the negative. If I lose ENTERPRISE, then I lose one of my favorite shows. Life goes on....I'll just sit back by my computer in May and see if anything changes...
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Tim McGraw "My Old Friend"
Dedicated To My Home..New Orleans
Quote:" and that producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are personally writing the last episode of the season.
WHY????
More Nazi bullshit???? Why does Trek have to have these two assholes still there?
Quote:"Coto also offered tidbits on the remaining episodes of the season: "In the second half of the season, you can expect this: Stories that take place on Andoria, a Klingon moon, Romulan outposts, Romulan Marauders, Orion Privateers, Earth's Moon, Mars, a 1701-class Federation starship and more. And you'll see a live Tholian... and a Gorn"
A Gorn? I guess B&B aren't done screwing up continuity!
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A Gorn? I guess B&B aren't done screwing up continuity!
At last! Proof that you jump to conclusions too fast before more details come out. Not long after this comment of yours was posted we find out that the Gorn is from the Mirror Universe. You didn't know shit about how the Gorn will be seen and as usual you complained like a whining baby. That is why I don't jump to conclusions and make an ass out of myself. The glass is always half full to me and it pays at the end.
So how about you just sit down, stop complaining and shut up, and just watch the damn show!
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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
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Quote:"At last! Proof that you jump to conclusions too fast before more details come out. Not long after this comment of yours was posted we find out that the Gorn is from the Mirror Universe. You didn't know shit about how the Gorn will be seen and as usual you complained like a whining baby. "
Yawn........!!!Is this the best you have little boy? We don't need to see the Gorn. Having B&B do anything with the Gorn with their lousy Trek record of continuity would make anyone go "oh no". But in your case, you are so delusional with your "fanboy" garbage you wouldn't even notice.
Quote:"That is why I don't jump to conclusions and make an ass out of myself.
No you just make an ass out of yourself by thinking that 3 means 4 and disregarding Trek lore. All for the sake of your stupid fanboy stories.On top of your ridiculous notion of "adding up all the episodes time thinking that means something". And lets not forget your disgusting fetish for the Romulans.
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We don't need to see the Gorn.
We didn't need to see the inventor of the transporter. We didn't need to see Khan again in the second movie. That little comment of yours have no substance. We don't need to see anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, Star Trek itself is not a necessity of life. We really don't need to see Star Trek. But the fact that people WANT to see Star Trek or WANT to see the inventor of the transporter or WANT to see the return of Khan in the second movie or WANT to see the Gorn on Enterprise is what matters.
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Having B&B do anything with the Gorn with their lousy Trek record of continuity would make anyone go "oh no".
NEWSFLASH!!!!! B&B have NOTHING to do with the upcoming Gorn episode. Coto just said that they will be writing the season finale. THAT'S IT! The Gorn episode is the one set in the Mirror Universe where basically anything goes. It's Coto's idea, NOT B&B! And with the exception of the last five minutes "Zero Hour" was a pretty good episode and continuity-wise reconfirmed the 2061 date of the founding of the Federation and finally established the founding members.
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No you just make an ass out of yourself by thinking that 3 means 4 and disregarding Trek lore.
"Three" does NOT mean "four" BUT "FIRST three" means "more than three". It's simple math and basic english and at the very least proves that some Federation historians (NOT ALL) consider the Eugenics Wars as a world war since it DOES fit the defination of a world war and it was a larger war than World War I.
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On top of your ridiculous notion of "adding up all the episodes time thinking that means something".
It's amazing that you still can see this simple piece of logic. Watch every episode and movie non-stop back to back and it will take over 20 days. It's a fact. You can do it yourself, add up the minutes of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all ten movies. Then you just divid the total by 60 then again by 24. It's simple math! So that means everything we know from the Star Trek universe is about over 20 days worth. And the whole POINT of this is to prove that it is impossible everything in the history of the Trek universe was seen and mentioned in the first four shows of Trek, as in just because the Xindi attack, the NX-01, the Warp 5 Program, and everything else in Enterprise was not mentioned in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy does not mean they never happened. Omission of a fact is not a contradiction of a fact. That's all I'm saying.
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And lets not forget your disgusting fetish for the Romulans.
I don't see you complaining about Jadiza-Dax's love for Vulcans. The Romulans are just my favorite Trek alien, do you have a problem with that? I mean, I don't go around looking like a Romulan and speaking Romulan, like some Klingon fans do with Klingons.
Stop over exaggerating everything I say, damn it!
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-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
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Quote:"And you say that I'm in denial, HA! That's a laugh."
HOW am I in denial? What are you talking about? This is a laugh because you are in denial all the time. Your last response was a great example of that. Of course you will do your usual ignore all the points you can't negate. Typical!
Quote:"We didn't need to see the inventor of the transporter. We didn't need to see Khan again in the second movie. That little comment of yours have no substance. We don't need to see anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, Star Trek itself is not a necessity of life. We really don't need to see Star Trek. But the fact that people WANT to see Star Trek or WANT to see the inventor of the transporter or WANT to see the return of Khan in the second movie or WANT to see the Gorn on Enterprise is what matters.
There was no fan out cry to see the inventor of the transporter and there was no fan out cry to see the Gorn. Your comment about "wanting to see Trek" is nothing more than a "word salad". It has nothing to do with what I said. You are in essence just babbling.
Quote:"NEWSFLASH!!!!! B&B have NOTHING to do with the upcoming Gorn episode. Coto just said that they will be writing the season finale. THAT'S IT! The Gorn episode is the one set in the Mirror Universe where basically anything goes. It's Coto's idea, NOT B&B!
Thank GOD!
Quote:"And with the exception of the last five minutes "Zero Hour" was a pretty good episode and continuity-wise reconfirmed the 2061 date of the founding of the Federation and finally established the founding members.
Zero Hour was shit! More time travel diarrhea! More Daniels garbage!
Quote:""Three" does NOT mean "four" BUT "FIRST three" means "more than three". It's simple math and basic english and at the very least proves that some Federation historians (NOT ALL) consider the Eugenics Wars as a world war since it DOES fit the defination of a world war and it was a larger war than World War I.
You denial of Trek lore about this world wars is what makes you stupid. You are lost in the delusions of your fanboy world. You only embarrass yourself every time you open your mouth. "FEDERATION HISTORIANS"??? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU FAIL to realize that Trek is NOT real! The Eugencis war was NOT a world war. If so then NAME THE EPISODE that states this? Answer: THERE IS NOT ONE.
SO stop being a complete and utter f'ing moron over this issue that you have drummed up in that empty head of yours. 3 THREE world wars ONLY idiot. And if you don't like it...tough shit! The rest of us REAL Trek fans know better and will just continue to laugh at your complete and utter nonsense! There is NO set definition to "world war"!! God you are an embarrassment to Trek fans everywhere. Stop watching Trek!!
Quote:"It's amazing that you still can see this simple piece of logic.
95% of what you say has no logic. Stop watching Trek!
Quote:"Watch every episode and movie non-stop back to back and it will take over 20 days. It's a fact.
So fucking what! It doesn't mean anything! Oh by adding up the episode blah blah blah. It means NOTHING!
Quote:"You can do it yourself, add up the minutes of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and all ten movies. Then you just divid the total by 60 then again by 24. It's simple math! So that means everything we know from the Star Trek universe is about over 20 days worth.
This is nothing but complete insanity. So all of Trek over 20 days? ALL 5 SERIES? YOU ARE A MORON!
Quote:"And the whole POINT of this is to prove that it is impossible everything in the history of the Trek universe was seen and mentioned in the first four shows of Trek, as in just because the Xindi attack, the NX-01, the Warp 5 Program, and everything else in Enterprise was not mentioned in TOS, TNG, DS9, or Voy does not mean they never happened. Omission of a fact is not a contradiction of a fact. That's all I'm saying.
Oh yes the other point I forgot to mention. The fact the Xindi were not mentioned in TOS through Voy makes them a continuity error. It was a NEW concept to try and salvage ENT from being canceled because after 2 seasons it went no where and told you nothing. No mention EVER in TOS through VOY about an attack on Earth that killed 7 million people.
Quote:"I don't see you complaining about Jadiza-Dax's love for Vulcans.
Again your an idiot. She doesn't go around and talk about Vulcans in every response. She admires the character but she is NOT obsessed about it. She doesn't go around with her "Fanboy" CRAP that you do. To try and drag Jadiza into your madness is just pathetic! You are grasping at straws. Stop watching Trek!
Quote:"The Romulans are just my favorite Trek alien,
We know so SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY!
Quote:"do you have a problem with that? I mean, I don't go around looking like a Romulan and speaking Romulan, like some Klingon fans do with Klingons.
Oh great..now you are going to drag people who like Klingons into your madness. I DON'T SEE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD WRITING IN KLINGON OR POSTING ALL THEIR FANBOY CRAP. Just you!
Quote:"Stop over exaggerating everything I say, damn it!
I don't have too, you do fine by yourself! Stop watching Trek!
Quote:"TREKMAN: The MAN Who Knows His TREK
Too bad that Trek is the stuff he has made up in head/
Quote:"Sit down, shut up, and just watch the show!
I wish he would. Starting with this web site!
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I agree. I like Coto, he is a TOS fan just like us, but showing a Gorn is just wrong. ARENA was the first contact between humans and gorns.
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Again, you people are blowing shit WAYYY out of proportion. As per the usual on this board.
He said WE'LL see a Gorn, it doesn't mean the crew will have first contact with them. Same goes with the Romulans.
Who gives a flying f**k how it is done, at least he's better than B&B ever were.
And I don't mind B&B writing the finale this year, because unlike the years before, they have Coto there to be the crap filter.
It all sounds promising, except for that bit about the finale. One question, though--I thought Coto had previously stated we wouldn't be seeing the Gorn, because Kirk was the one who made first contact with that species? Wonder how they found a way to get around that? I get the sense Coto has enough respect for continuity he won't blatantly disregard it.
and prevent Berman and Braga from touching anything Trek...
Their incompetence is as glaring as that "Zero Hour" alien, both literally and figuratively.
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"We're standing by to beam your survivors aboard our ship. Prepare to abandon your vessel."
"No – no, that is not our way. I regret that we meet in this way. You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."
"What purpose will it serve to die?"
"We are creatures of duty, captain. I have lived my life by it. Just... one more duty... to perform."
- Kirk and Romulan Commander
Last time they wrote something, we got an alien Nazi in a season finale, which in turn forced them to waste 2 episodes this already even more-shortened season, trying to explain that cliche mess all away. 
In fact this whole season has been mostly damage control for 3 years of destruction by them.
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"I think the show talked to people through the characters. They're stories that speak to the heart. They talk about love, they talk about friendship, they talk about loyalty, they talk about patriotism, exploration, curiosity, reaching out... And I think all those things still touch people. Even when you look at a 30-year old show, it still has something to say." - D.C. Fontana, Sci Fi Channel Special Edition TOS 1998
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"If the season finale involves the re-built USS Reliant coming back in time to the 21st Century crewed by Moogie, Dr. Selar, Morn, Transporter Chief Kyle, and the Salt Vampire, then we'll know that Coto has gone too far." - tomba1701
Rick and Brannon are writing the finale. I guess we'll just have to cut their heads off and bury them somewhere.
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The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on
my skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their
breath and disappeared, my heart went cold, and
only hollow rhythms resounded from within.
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Let's just hope we don't get a bogus "Zero Hour" ending.
"Holy Sh*T! Archer is in fedal Japan and there's a Klingon in a Samuri uniform!"
(actually that sounds pretty cool :P)
You know, with the exception of the ZHAN at the end, "Zero Hour" was a great episode. Continuity-wise B&B reconfirmed that the Federation is going to be established in 2061 and they canonized the long speculated founding members. So if they stay away from another ZHAN-like ending, I'm okay with B&B writing the finale.
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"Take a Romulan chill pill and have some faith!"
-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
-Scorned as Gage/Gage_2
Ha! I bet in Coto's mind, this could be the last season, so he's thinking and if Enterprise is going then anything goes. He is making sure that if Enterprise is cancelled, it will go out with a bang and try to do a ton of things before the end. I LOVE IT!!!!
Now, if Coto is daring enough to show all those things in one season, just imagine what Enterprise would be like in season 5 and beyond. Damn! Just imagine what the premise of a Coto-created Star Trek series!
And also, just imagine what Star Trek: Nemesis whould be like if Coto wrote it (with or without Logan).
When will Paramount fire B&B and make Coto the new head honcho of Trek?
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"Take a Romulan chill pill and have some faith!"
-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
-Scorned as Gage/Gage_2
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Nemesis was not a bad movie. It was ok, but not on par with TWOK, FC, or TVH. Logan wrote a great script, but with Berman's "the movie has to run less than two hours" philosophy and the editing, a lot of the stuff that would have improved the movie was cut out (like all the character stuff).
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Don't get me wrong, I liked Nemesis, but it had its flaws even in the script. It could have been better.
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"Take a Romulan chill pill and have some faith!"
-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
-Scorned as Gage/Gage_2
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There's one flaw that just glares out at me everytime. I'll blame it on Nemesis, though First Contact may be to blame. Bear with me.
When Picard and Lilly are walking through the ship, just prior to encountering the Borgerized sections of ship, he explains to her that the Enterprise has 24 decks, yadda yadda....
In Nemesis, the Remans beamed an invading party over to capture Picard, when the ventral shielding went out on deck 39.
So now I'm confused. How many decks does the E have? You'd think those two brainfarts could at least get that right.
Let the speculations begin. By "1701 class" ship, I assume he means Constitution Class? And with him mentioning Tholians, one could conclude it might be the U.S.S. Defiant? All in all it sounds pretty good!
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I have to admit--that's a great guess. Maybe we'll even see a quick effect of Kirk on the ship.
Unfortunately, that's not a real Shatner appearance, and that certainly wouldn't count.
But at the same time, that would be a good idea for an episode.
For the record, there isn't supposed to be a cliffhanger this year. It's not a series ender either. It's a season ender.
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Finally! I bet Mike Sussman is going to write that since the original idea for season 2's "Future Tense" was the U.S.S. Defiant appearing. As for the Tholians, I hope they look cool, but unfortunately due to the mystery of their appearence ,expectations maybe so high that nothing would be good enough for some fans.
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"Take a Romulan chill pill and have some faith!"
-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.
"I am NOT Scorned."
-Scorned as Gage/Gage_2
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