RE: B & B ? More! More ! More ! | Report this post to moderator
By: Keoki (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:40:51 on Jan 20, 2005

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Quote:A night in sickbay was a wonderful episode. It was filled with clever humour, moving at times (Porthos' illness) and the way it dealt with promiscuity on a starship was very interesting. It was an important episode about the bond between Archer and Porthos. But I guess you don't care much for character development, do you ?

I've got to admit - I'm in the apparent minority that liked "A Night in Sickbay." Of course, I'm a dog fan.

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Quote:The sudden 180 of the future guy who they NEVER explained who the hell this dipshit was.

This is exactly what made the TPW so clever : It left some parts in the dark. By choosing not to solve every problem, you leave the audience with their own imagination at work. This is why a show like ENT is not just about staring at your tv screen like some kind of vegetable : It makes you think as well.

Now this I didn't like. It reminds me of the horrible Twin Peaks movie that raised more questions than it answered. Or Matrix Revolutions. I honestly don't think B&B left it a mystery to make anyone think. More likely they just never had a clue who he was themselves, as Braga has stated more than once. From a production point of view, this is just bad writing. Why even include the character in the first point? If he has no role to play in the drama (or comedy, or whatever_, he should be cut.[eq]

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RE: B & B ? No More! No More ! No More ! | Report this post to moderator
By: Scorned (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:24:11 on Jan 19, 2005

Quote:"A night in sickbay was a wonderful episode. It was filled with clever humour, moving at times (Porthos' illness) and the way it dealt with promiscuity on a starship was very interesting. It was an important episode about the bond between Archer and Porthos. But I guess you don't care much for character development, do you ?

Don't give me that crap about "character development". You have 2 cast members that are never used and you could almost put one more (Malcolm) on that list as well. The dog? I don't care to see any episode where the captain for the entire episode was blubbering over his stupid mutt. I am not interesting in seeing an episode dedicated to each charcater. The best way to see and learn about character is through "story" and things mentioned on the side. I don't need to see an entire episode dedicated to "one" specific character just to let the audience see this character. If you think A Night In Sickbay was wondering and humorous. Then you must of been disappointed when "Dodge Ball" was NOT nominated for an Oscar. It will remain one of the worst episode for ENT and for Trek as a whole. Right next to "Threshold, Datas Day and Spocks Brain".



Quote:"You know, intelligent Sci-Fi is not just about action, space battles and special effects. It's also about studying the human nature.

I never said it wasn't. Please show me where I said that exactly? Wasting an entire episode over the mutt was far from intelligent Sci-Fi. It was ridiculous.


Quote:"This is exactly what made the TPW so clever : It left some parts in the dark. By choosing not to solve every problem, you leave the audience with their own imagination at work. This is why a show like ENT is not just about staring at your tv screen like some kind of vegetable : It makes you think as well.

That is absolutely nonsense! You give us a "villain" for over 2 seasons and never bothered to explain the background as to why this person was attacking ENT etc. Then it does a 180 by helping explain the Xindi to Archer. It was a very poorly conceived concept (Typical of B&B) which was so bad that it had to be scrapped completely for the retarded Xindi arc because the fans were not interested in this crap anymore. The TCW was and will be consider a bad memory.



Quote:"It's hard because TOS was not always good Sci-Fi.

It is the basis of Star Trek. It was that little 60's series that went into syndication and became a huge hit with a cult following. There are many episodes of TOS which are classic Sci-Fi. Your comment is complete nonsense. It does not excuse B&B from taking notes from it. Of course that would mean they would of had to watched some of it. Which we both know they didn't.


Quote:"You just can't respect everything installed in TOS, and not pull the quality of ENT a few levels down at the same time.

This answer is complete nonsense and does not validity the simple fact that B&B were too stupid and too lazy to take notes of TOS. I expect ENT to follow ALL the continuity of TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY. Since the two men that you love so much have been around since TNG. It is sad and shows a level of complete incompetence that they could NOT keep timelines, characters and various other things straight. As for the quality level. Had ENT had half of the quality level of TOS it would not be on the verge AGAIN of being canceled. For the 1960's TOS was ground breaking. For 2005, ENT is ground crashing!!


Quote:"It is very hard to "keep your own shit straight" when you are constantly harrassed by a minority of loud talking TOS fans who can't accept any change in the franchise.

Another cop out excuse which holds no validity. You really have no idea what you are talking about. By changing know facts of Trek history you are not adding anything to it but taking away. The fact that fans pointed out blantly continuity errors only shows that the fans "paid attention" unlike Berman. We are going to say Vulcans for 35 years suppress their emotions. Along comes Berman the dick and we just toss that idea out of the window. I don't think so.

A perfect example of typical Berman laziness is Generations. Soran punches the Duras sister in the mouth. The blood is red. In STVI, the movie BEFORE Generation the killing of the Gorgon shows Klingon blood to be a light purple colour. The ONLY reason why fans pointed this out is due to the fact that STVI was nominated for an Oscar for special effects. Berman was too stupid and too lazy to keep that in mind when he made that piece of crap Generations. The fact that fans find the errors over management only shows you who really is "paying attention" and who "really cares".



Quote:"15 years, give or take a month or two. Granted, it must be less than you...

Over 25 years and it is very sad when these pseudo Trek fans like yourself cop an attitude like this. It is almost embarrassing. Please do us real fans a favor and go watch that silly revamp of BSG.


Quote:"I did. But I couldn't care less about the ratings, now or then.

Then you are a fool. Ratings are not the "end all" but they are a very good indicator of how many people are actually ENJOY the show week after week. To go from 20 million to 3, keeping in mind that ENT's pilot had 14 million to start. Is very sad! It shows you that no one finds this show the least bit interesting. This coming from a fan base that was so loyal.


Quote:"I don't understand why people first check the ratings,

I don't check the ratings first. However ratings are important. Too bad you are not smart enough to see that.


Quote:"and only then decide whether what they watched is good or not.

Don't be so stupid. People watch shows they like. If they stop liking it they go and watch something else. Nobody goes "oh that show has high ratings I got to watch it week after week even if I don't like it".


Quote:" I don't take the ratings into account when I decide if a like a TV show or not.

Nobody else does either. I don't know where you think people are telling you this. Just more delusional thinking on your part.


Quote:"If I did, my apreciation of TOS would be even worse.

Suddenly you appreciate TOS in some way? Wow....

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