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ENT Consulting Producer Talks Possibility of 'Gorn' Episode in Season 4

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By GustavoLeao / 18:23, 13 September 2004 / Enterprise

The latest issue of Cinefantastique magazine, just out in the US, features an exclusive interview with ENTERPRISE third season writer and former consulting producer David A. Goodman. Here are a few excerpts :

"Is our fan base made up of Original Series fans or is our fan base people who want to see a slightly more realistic-looking show ?" Goodman told journalist Jeff Bond "I don't know that Rick [Berman] and Brannon [Braga] are the biggest fans of the Original Series; a lot of people on the staff are huge Original Series fans - Chris Black, Mike Sussman, Andre Bormanis, me, the special effects guys, the designers - and we pitch stuff all the time, but the story has to work."

When asked about the resolution of the third season story-arc, Goodman said "I think the Xindi thing is done, we may bring back Xindi characters but the aspects of that story are finished. I don't think we'll see an end of the Temporal Cold War yet, and we're trying to figure out a way to make the upcoming year as challenging or more challenging than we did this year. I don't know if we'll go back to planet of the week exploring because the yearlong thing worked well."

And what about the appearances of alien races familiarized by the Original Series in the upcoming fourth season ? "That's something we all want to do and it's certainly a strong possibility," Goodman says. "I spent a lot of time last year developing a Gorn episode because I thought that given what you can do with today's effects - if you think 'Arena', [Kirk] hits him with a diamond fired from a cannon, and he's just a little groggy. I mean, this is a great monster. Given what you can do with CGI and limbs that can grow back, I spend a lot of time developing this Gorn story that Brannon liked, but we didn't have time to do it. So I may dust that off. And of course it's important to establish that they never call it a Gorn and you're never going to know that this is what is encountered later."

To read the full interview, get the latest issue of Cinefantastique, at your local newstand.



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By: USS Independence (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:42:41 on Sep 14, 2004

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And, if he didn't give a crap about us, he never would get around to saying "By the way, my people call themselve the Gorn. Did you get that? GORN. G-O-R-N. Don't forget it. We own most of the space around Cestus. Write that down. Cestus, C-E... what? No one has a pen? Well, someone remember, please, I wouldn't want some misunderstanding. So stop by and see us, we're friendly. Just remember to call ahead."

I think this is absolutely right. As long as it concerns a single survivor or something from a lost ship (for example). With the Ferengi, you knew they'd continue expanding, so it's strange they would need 300 years to come back. But other races that are more private and less exploratory don't have to. Certainly if that drifting ship was a non-military craft or something.

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By: Jadzia-Dax (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:27:56 on Sep 14, 2004

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And, if he didn't give a crap about us, he never would get around to saying "By the way, my people call themselve the Gorn. Did you get that? GORN. G-O-R-N. Don't forget it. We own most of the space around Cestus. Write that down. Cestus, C-E... what? No one has a pen? Well, someone remember, please, I wouldn't want some misunderstanding. So stop by and see us, we're friendly. Just remember to call ahead."

Wow. No wonder why we have Archer and crew continually looking idiotic in ENT. Sigh...

I think I know the problem here and it has to do with not desiring to develop a species over the long term.

These are episodic, standalone writers and rather than have someone on board actually sit down and take a couple of the TOS species known to be around in ENT's time and/or who were recently introduced and create a bible for them to write against and then let things go from there, they have attempted to do the "cool" factor, inserting them in willy nilly.

I mean, Okuda has written a whole encyclopedia brimming with names of species, including where and when (and in what context) they appeared.

There is Rigel II, which apparently has clubs on it per McCoy's "illusion" in TOS "Shore Leave".

There is Rigel IV, which is populated by Humanoids and that plays a factor in a string of murders that stretch from Earth to Argellius, since the Jack the Ripper days on Earth.

There is Rigel V, which has a presumably Vulcanoid species, mentioned in TOS "Journey to Babel" as possible blood donors for Sarek.

There is Rigel VII, home of the native "Kaylar", who attacked Pike and his crew when they attempted to enter a seemingly abandoned fortress but who were apparently known about to a degree because Kirk mentions a song called "Moon over Rigel VII" in TFF before they agree to "Row, Row, Row Your Boat". ;-)

There is Rigel XII, which has dilithium mines per TOS "Mudd's Women".

I mean, ENT has been to Rigel X and if any place that is critical to discovery in this time period, it is the Rigel System and all its myriad of planets.

If anything, TOS "The Doomsday Machine" had a Captain go stark raving mad and eventually commit suicide trying to keep the planet-eater from entering where? Right. The densely-populated Rigel System. And apparently, THAT is where the Orions hung out and is believed to be (although not explictly mentioned in the canon) where the Orion Homeworld is.

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