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Interview: Fan's Man Manny Coto: The Changing of the Guard at ENTERPRISE

By Steve Krutzler / 04:35, 18 August 2004 / TrekWeb Features

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He put in his time with the 'Crypt Keeper' and surveyed THE OUTER LIMITS. Along the way he found HOSTILE INTENT and created a STAR KID. His ODYSSEY 5 took him next to the STAR TREK offices at Paramount studios, where this new kid on the block has quickly become his own star.

Manny Coto joined STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE last season as a co-executive producer and contributed the controversial script "Similitude," dealt with religious fanaticism in "Chosen Realm," wrote the action-packed "Azati Prime" and suspensful "The Council." He balanced dangerous blows and romance in the ranks with delicate strokes in "Harbinger." Coto's arrival was a harbinger of a different kind.

When ENTERPRISE was narrowly renewed by UPN (and moved to Fridays) in May, Coto did what none had done in five years: take over the writing room. Excluding DEEP SPACE NINE, Brannon Braga has run the writing staff on STAR TREK since Michael Piller and Jeri Taylor departed VOYAGER in the late nineties. Although Ken Biller steered the final season of VOYAGER, Braga put his stamp on most of that series as well as ENTERPRISE. Since his days as an intern, he has been with the franchise for nearly fifteen years.

But with Braga developing new projects with Rick Berman, a changing of the guard has taken place at ENTERPRISE. TrekWeb chatted yesterday with the newest captain of STAR TREK's future, Manny Coto, about his course for the flagship franchise.

TW: Can you briefly summarize what your role is and your working relationship with Rick and Brannon?

MC: I’m running the writing room, which is generating the stories. Rick and Brannon are functioning as Rick did in the first three years of the show, which is approving and not approving, giving notes and in a more supervisory role. I’m more generating the stories and coming up with the thrust of the season.

TW: Are they generating stories at all?

MC: Not so much generating, but talking about them and helping develop them, absolutely.

TW: Now that you're essentially in charge creatively, what's your vision for the show?

MC: My vision is to try to fulfill what I think is ENTERPRISE’s promise, which is to create a truly prequel series. And that is beginning to tie ENTERPRISE into the overall STAR TREK canon and to really use the opportunity that we have to create stories that give us a glimpse into the formation of the STAR TREK universe. That’s in a nutshell my vision for this season, in any event. And on a simply fun level to do stories that STAR TREK fans would really love to see.

TW: You've already hired three new writers in Alan Brennert and Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. Tell me how they became involved and what your impetus was for bringing them onboard.

MC: I have known Alan for a long time, I worked with him on OUTER LIMITS; when I was co-executive producer on OUTER LIMITS he wrote two of the best episodes of the season. I brought him on to ODYSEY 5 and he wrote really terrific episodes. I’ve known him very well, he is a huge STAR TREK fan and we’ve always talked about STAR TREK and when I came on to STAR TREK, he was one of the first names of someone that I’d like to bring onboard. Someone that was a novelist, that has a great love of STAR TREK and a great knowledge of the science fiction genre and just a terrifc writer. This year when I became executive producer one of the first things I wanted to do was bring Alan on.

Judy and Gar, I had loved [their novel] FEDERATION. I thought that they were really, as far as the STAR TREK novels, I thought theirs were stand outs, and because of what I wanted to do with season four, which is really tie ENTERPRISE with the STAR TREK universe I thought these two would be perfect to help flesh out the sense of scope that I wanted for the various story arcs. We’re operating in three-episode arcs and Judy and Gar with their novelist sense of sweep and their intense knowledge of the STAR TREK universe I thought would be perfect for what I wanted to do this year.

TW: Which scripts have these three written or will be writing?

MC: Judy and Gar haven’t written any yet, they probably will be writing one of the scripts on the Vulcan arc. Not probably, I’d say definitely going to write one of the scripts on the Vulcan arc, which we’re working on now. Alan has written episode two of the Soong arc “CS-12.”

TW: Will the Reeves-Stevenes write the possible William Shatner story?

MC: If the Shatner episode comes to fruition, which I’m hoping, yes they will write the Shatner episode[(s)].

By the way I should say that the Reeves-Stevens and the Shatner connection was actually completely coincidental. I wanted to bring on the Reeves-Stevens before we even knew Shatner was going to do the season. It was a strange thing, when I brought them in to meet with them they told me that Bill had this idea for the series and I said “oh really,” and I called Rick Berman and said “have you heard about this? Let’s move!” It was a strange coincidence but oddly enough worked out that way.

TW: What exactly is their position and role so far?

MC: They are executive story editors. They’re in the room, we’re all in the room tossing out ideas, and they have already submitted some great ideas for story arcs that I want to do later in the year.

TW: And what is the status of the Shatner situation? Are they actively working with him?

MC: They’re actively talking with him. They’re going back and forth with numbers, I know it’s a tough negotiation. I couldn’t tell you whether it’s going to work out or not, I’m hoping that it will. I know that there is interest from UPN and Paramount, they really want to try and make it work, but it’s a tough negotiation. It [would be] later in the year.

TW: So let's talk about another guest star, Brent Spiner, who I guess is shooting right now?

MC: I just left the stage! He’s over there, wearing his handcuffs!

TW: Was this a story that was sitting around and when you found out that he was interested you tailored it to him?

MC: Essentially, yeah. I’ll tell you, this story arc was originally going to feature 'Colonel Green'.

Colonel Green? Think, think...

MC: When we found out that Brent was interested we tried to tailor it to him, and having seen the dailies he’s terrific in this part. For a little while I even toyed with the idea of him playing Colonel Green, but I think he’s more interesting playing this character.

Damn, I have to just ask...

TW: Colonel Green, that's a STAR TREK connection right? I run the web site but I can't think of it!

MC: [Laughs]. In [“The Savage Curtain”, from ST:TOS] the classic episode with Lincoln... there were four figures from Earth’s good side, and four from the bad side. And one of the evil figures is this Colonel Green, who is mentioned as somebody who in Earth’s history led a genocidal war--that’s all that’s said about him. The Reeves-Stevens actually layered Colonel Green’s movement into FEDERATION, so I always thought that he was an interesting character to bring to life and flesh out. But the implication was that he had something to do with the Eugenics Wars as well. With Brent’s interest we decided to tailor it to Brent.

TW: How did his guest appearance come about?

MC: Brent and Rick had been talking about it and Rick casually mentioned it and -- I think that’s how it went, I could be wrong -- and Brent said “I’d love to do something” and so Rick mentioned it to me and I said let’s figure it out.

TW: And that will be a three-episode arc [beginning with "Borderland", Oct. 22, in production this week]. You mentioned this format earlier; will the entire season be like that?

MC: There’ll be a couple of standalones and some of them may turn out to be two-episode arcs, it depends on how the stories flesh out. That’s the idea.

TW: One of those you talked about at the press tour was the Vulcan plot dealing with a civil war. You discussed that the storyline is going to sort of explain various behaviors of Vulcans in the first three seasons that may be seen as inconsistent. How do you tell Rick and Brannon that what they did should be "explained"?

MC: I didn’t present it in the sense of "let’s explain it." It exists, "this is what you guys did; let’s use it as a fascinating springboard to tell a terrific story arc that kind of shows the evolution of Vulcan from, kind of, where you guys started to how the Vulcans were in the original series." So it wasn’t so much to say “I’ve gotta explain what you guys did,” but let’s use it. "This is what you did, it’s not going to go away, so let’s use it."

We’re actually developing that story now and it’s turning into this great, really fascinating LAWRENCE OF ARABIA tale with T’Pol and Archer in the desert to go and find these Vulcans who are traitors.

TW: And this will take place on Vulcan?

MC: Oh yeah, the whole thing!

TW: You mentioned that Romulans will be involved. Of course the first thing the hardcores will remind us is that no one knew what the Romulans looked like until the original series.

MC: No one will know what the Romulans look like. No one will know.

TW: The audience already knows so there’s no point in hiding it from us?

MC: Right, the audience will know. Although I don’t have the whole story worked out yet because we’re still fleshing it out, but there may be a possibility of someone finding out and that person can die. There are ways to do it so that we can preserve canon, but no, no one will find out that they were Romulans.

TW: Jolene Blalock has said publicly that she is looking forward to taking T'Pol in a new direction this season. What's in store for her character?

MC: By the end of this Vulcan arc she will become hopefully she will find her center as a Vulcan, and will become a Vulcan in the grand tradition of Spock and other Vulcans that we have known, and will accept the true Vulcan calling.

TW: Will she get the Kohlinar?

MC: I don’t know if she’ll get as far as Kohlinar, but I -- maybe she will, that’s a great idea. I should write that down.

TW: The pitch session has begun! [Laughs].

MC: [Laughs].

Check back tomorrow for the conclusion of our interview with Manny Coto, in which he talks about the cliffhanger in "Zero Hour" and his resolution in "Storm Front," the first three years of ENTERPRISE, and the future of STAR TREK. Is there life beyond 2005? Plus, Manny drops another hint about a story he'd like to do involving a classic episode of TOS.

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By: GreginWA (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 19:42:48 on Aug 18, 2004

hotdog! I've completely tuned out of this show since the first season (except I DID see the Borg episode). After reading some of this interview, I think its safe to say that I will tune in this year.

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By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 15:22:52 on Aug 18, 2004 | (1)

The Reeves-Stevens writing the Kirk episode ? This sounds fantastic ! Perfect !

Kudos to Mr. Coto, he sounds like a big fan of the franchise and really knows his STAR TREK. Congratulatios to Steve for this great interview.

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By: NX-47 (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:09:26 on Aug 18, 2004 | (2)

...how about at the top:

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TW: Now that you're essentially in charge creatively, what's your vision for the show?
MC: My vision is to try to fulfill what I think is ENTERPRISE’s promise, which is to create a truly prequel series. And that is beginning to tie ENTERPRISE into the overall STAR TREK canon and to really use the opportunity that we have to create stories that give us a glimpse into the formation of the STAR TREK universe. That’s in a nutshell my vision for this season, in any event. And on a simply fun level to do stories that STAR TREK fans would really love to see.

More and more, I'm thinking that Manny really has his ear to the ground, and is listening to what fans say. He's been saying all along that he's a Big Fan, which is good, as it adds a level of passion to what he's doing. Add that to the possability that he's listening, and you get TONS of potential here.

(insert guarded optimism here)

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TW: Which scripts have these three (new writers Alan Brennert and Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens) written or will be writing?

While I haven't read any of the Trek novels, this New Blood is yet another Really Good Sign, escecially based on what others here have been saying about them, esp. the Reeves-Stevens duo.

(insert more guarded optimism here)

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TW: Will the Reeves-Stevenes write the possible William Shatner story?
MC: If the Shatner episode comes to fruition, which I’m hoping, yes they will write the Shatner episode[(s)].

Well, DUH! :-D

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TW: So let's talk about another guest star, Brent Spiner, who I guess is shooting right now?
MC: I just left the stage! He’s over there, wearing his handcuffs!

Hmmm... lots of images come to mind here. lol

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TW: How did his guest appearance come about?
MC: Brent and Rick had been talking about it and Rick casually mentioned it and -- I think that’s how it went, I could be wrong -- and Brent said “I’d love to do something” and so Rick mentioned it to me and I said let’s figure it out.

That quote almost makes it look like Spiner was needing the work. ;-) Actually, I think he's a very talented actor, with a wide range of possible characters he can play well... he did so with Data, as well as some other cameos he's done over the years.

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TW: And that will be a three-episode arc [beginning with "Borderland", Oct. 22, in production this week]. You mentioned this format earlier; will the entire season be like that?
MC: There’ll be a couple of standalones and some of them may turn out to be two-episode arcs, it depends on how the stories flesh out. That’s the idea.

Sounds like the DS9 model. :-)

(insert even more guarded optimism here)

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TW: One of those you talked about at the press tour was the Vulcan plot dealing with a civil war. You discussed that the storyline is going to sort of explain various behaviors of Vulcans in the first three seasons that may be seen as inconsistent. How do you tell Rick and Brannon that what they did should be "explained"?
MC: I didn’t present it in the sense of "let’s explain it." It exists, "this is what you guys did; let’s use it as a fascinating springboard to tell a terrific story arc that kind of shows the evolution of Vulcan from, kind of, where you guys started to how the Vulcans were in the original series." So it wasn’t much to say “I’ve gotta explain what you guys did,” but let’s use it. "This is what you did, it’s not going to go away, so let’s use it."

I think he actually said "you buttheads hosed one of the most respectable species in Star Trek, and now it's MY job to fix the damage you've done!" ;-)

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TW: You mentioned that Romulans will be involved. Of course the first thing the hardcores will remind us that no one knew what the Romulans looked like until the original series.
MC: No one will know what the Romulans look like. No one will know.

Nice... oftentimes an Unseen Enemy is more intimidating, frightening, and dramatically interesting than one you can 'put a face on'. Sure, we know what they look like, but the fact that we didn't see them in "Minefield" worked well in this regard. Good call by Manny.

(insert even more guarded optimism here)

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TW: Jolene Blalock has said publicly that she is looking forward to taking T'Pol in a new direction this season. What's in store for her character?
MC: By the end of this Vulcan arc she will become hopefully she will find her center as a Vulcan, and will become a Vulcan in the grand tradition of Spock and other Vulcans that we have known, and will accept the true Vulcan calling.

GOOD. GREAT. THANK GOD. PLEASE. I've always liked the T'Pol character, and winced at all the discraces done to the character. And I must compliment Blalock's portrayal, even thru this last season. I think she's done a fine job.

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TW: Will she get the Kohlinar?
MC: I don’t know if she’ll get as far as Kohlinar, but I -- maybe she will, that’s a great idea. I should write that down.
TW: The pitch session has begun! [Laughs].
MC: [Laughs].

Well, Steve, did he write it down? ;-)

That was an intriguing interview, to be sure... looking forward to Part 2!

(insert bona-fide optimism here)

LLaP

EDIT: I used the quote feature a bit much, so I cleaned it up a bit....

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By: Jean-Luc (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:55:39 on Aug 18, 2004

Thanks for asking so many intelligent, relevant questions Steve. It's great to hear direct responses from the source. I think it's going to be a great season!

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By: Chronic Harlot (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 12:23:36 on Aug 18, 2004

Love the 'internal monologue', Steve. ;)

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By: MarkMat (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:44:30 on Aug 18, 2004

This fellow really seems to have a grasp and (gasp!) a vision of what he wants to do with Star Trek. Can't wait to see the new episodes. Great job, Steve.

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By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:48:01 on Aug 18, 2004

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MC: By the end of this Vulcan arc she will become hopefully she will find her center as a Vulcan, and will become a Vulcan in the grand tradition of Spock and other Vulcans that we have known, and will accept the true Vulcan calling.

Nice to see this interview dig for specific info about T'Pol, as she has been a high-profile instrument of ruin for ENT. Jolene Blalock's disappointment in her character is valid, and Coto now seems to be aware of that. Let's see T'Pol become a strong and independent female role model -- and let her be a commentary character, the most useful storytelling purpose of alien archetypes.

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By: Jadzia-Dax (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:53:54 on Aug 18, 2004

Yeah, I think that this whole comment:

"I didn’t present it in the sense of "let’s explain it." It exists, "this is what you guys did; let’s use it as a fascinating springboard to tell a terrific story arc that kind of shows the evolution of Vulcan from, kind of, where you guys started to how the Vulcans were in the original series." So it wasn’t much to say “I’ve gotta explain what you guys did,” but let’s use it. "This is what you did, it’s not going to go away, so let’s use it."

is quite cleverly diplomatic, to say the least from one who does not wish to bite the hand that feeds him. ;-)

However it attempts to address the extremes of view regarding the use of the reset button, something that many frustrated fans hate (especially when it becomes a crutch) but were willing to see invoked in this instance to help this show dig out of the mess that had been heaped upon the Vulcans.

And I would agree that not only the Vulcans, but ALL associated 3rd party commentators (like Phlox), must be permitted to return to their very crucial roles. And the plot devices assigned to these commentators, that would allow them to explore and further comment on Humanity by their ability to reveal the hidden thoughts of the Human characters, MUST BE RESTORED.

There was a distinct reason WHY these things were put into place (particularly with respect to Vulcans). And these fictional aliens were given certain abilities and traits to explictly be used for commentary purposes, ie., by illiciting the responses and/or actions out of the various characters, in order to give the audience a pay-off of revealing and spotlighting the Human experience. Ie., the drives, the motivations, and the unique behavioral traits that make US Human vs something else.

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By: Jadzia-Dax (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:23:20 on Aug 18, 2004

He kept you up, didn't he Steve? LOL

Interviews in the middle of the night (yes I know they are actively in production). ;-)

As a note regarding... ahem... "Colonel Green" as depicted in TOS "The Savage Curtain" - aside from you HOPEFULLY reviewing the TOS DVD Sets due out this fall so that YOU can get up to speed with that neglected and oft-insulted series... ahem... - it was suggested that he was a WW 3 guy.

So unless he was shown as a "flashback" or via some "advanced being-generated image" or other plot device like was done in TOS "The Savage Curtain", he doesn't belong in the 22nd century, but in the 21st. Ie., in the episode, once all the parties are assembled, the Excaliban who brought them there to learn about the concepts of "good" vs "evil", which was alien to them (and this was done to see which was stronger), they tick off the various players where it is noted:

"Colonel Green led a genocidal war early in the 21st century on Earth."

So good that a different figure was selected (this Arik Soong), unless somehow Green was put into cryogenics or something or was cloned or again, appears due to some "advanced being" plot device (or need I say, "time travel").

I will check out the rest of the interview. It will be interesting to see what Brennert brings to the table. ;-)

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By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:13:49 on Aug 18, 2004 | (1)

Quote from Jadzia-Dax:
"Colonel Green led a genocidal war early in the 21st century on Earth."

As I've noted before, Manny Coto et al must do their Star Trek homework, to avoid tipping ENT from the pan into the fire. TOS touchstones and name-dropping will be lost on many fans who were weaned on Berman Trek, so Coto needs to realize that blunders in "TOS schmooze tactics" risk pissing off a sizeable audience -- discerning and alert Trekkers -- who are already turning their backs and closing their wallets to Berman's TV and film stupidities.

Coto can't afford to continue B&B's disregard for a successful and popular Star Trek icon -- the Vulcan archetype -- as founded by Roddenberry, Nimoy, Fontana, and other originals. S3 flaunted a despicable exploitation of Jolene Blalock's character and sex. A civil war on Vulcan may influence T'Pol's philosophical motives, but it won't repair her mangled mind (a gift from B&B). She needs to undergo the Kohlinar, returning to NX-01 as a mainstream Vulcan with an appropriately alien outlook. Give her a fully Vulcan physiology, complete with telepathic ability. Reinstate her VHC commission. Restore the political power cards with which she can occasionally make Archer feel less the henhouse rooster. And distance her from juvenile sexual-itch subplots, wet dreams, and shower scenes -- even if that requires issuing uniformed RealDolls to the crew (and put one in Berman's private office.)

Phlox is an easier repair, but he too must be restored to a commentary character with an alien perspective.

In the meantime, I reserve my seat in the "I'll believe it when I see it" section of ENT's theater.

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  But contrary to any popular belief, Colonel Green had NOTHING to do with the Eugenics Wars.
  
  Colonel Green did his stuff DURING WW III - AFTER the Eugenics Wars, where I noted in my earlier post, the Excaliban tells Kirk & Spock in TOS "The Savage Curtain":
  
  "Colonel Green led a genocidal war early in the 21st century on Earth."
  
  21st century = 2000s
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  The 1990s of the Eugenics Wars has NOTHING to do with the 2000s of WW III. In TOS "Space Seed", it is explictly mentioned about Khan being the "last" of the tyrants to fall and that happened in 1996. And when Spock mentions the time and calls it the time of Earth's "last world war", McCoy quickly corrects him saying the "Eugenics Wars". And later, when they do some more research on him, they reveal the following information:
  
  "Name-- Khan Noonien Singh. From 1992 through 1996, absolute ruler of more than a quarter of your world, from Asia through the Middle East. The last of the tyrants to be overthrown."
  
  Similarly in TWoK, Khan mentions 1996, which was when his ship, the Botany Bay, had been launched.
  
  PLEASE! There should be NO MIXING OF WARS! They keep trying to do this and I don't want to see people encouraging this.
  
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    By: Cap'n Calhoun (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:24:59 on Aug 20, 2004 | (2)
    
    Sorry about the frequent edits, but I had to go back and re-read the original comments...
    
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    Colonel Green did his stuff DURING WW III - AFTER the Eugenics Wars, where I noted in my earlier post, the Excaliban tells Kirk & Spock in TOS "The Savage Curtain":
    
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    it was suggested that he was a WW 3 guy.
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    The generally pedantically accurate (with rare exceptions) Star Trek Encyclopedia by Michael and Denise Okuda (and Debbie Mirek) confirms your first comment:
    
    "It is not clear what war Green fought, but it might have been World War III, mentioned in "Bread and Circuses" (TOS), "Encounter at Farpoint" (TNG), and Star Trek: First Contact."
    (Italics added. Well, removed, actually.)
    
    Of course, the whole thing is somewhat moot, since he was almost unqestionably a...
    
    "Twenty-first century military figure who led a genocidal war on Earth."
    
    I guess my main point is that you can't really say:
    
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    ...unless you're confident he couldn't have fought in the Eugenics Wars and continued as a military figure in the early 21st century.
    
    It's a minor point, admittedly, but I think it's important to be accurate on this. (Especially after the response NX-47 has posted.)
    
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    By: NX-47 (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:22:19 on Aug 18, 2004
    
    ...retaining Jadzi-Dax as Continuity Manager (or whatever an appropriate title would be). I haven't seen an occasion where her interpretation of continuity was proven wrong. Sure, there have been debates, but I don't think she's been proven wrong.
    
    ...unless she would prefer to maintain her anonymity here on TrekWeb... either way, you'd be well advised to listen to what she has to say. If you have a doubt on her stance, then simply call her on it, and then enjoy her debating skills. Like her namesake alias here, she's good at her homework. Benefit from it.
    
    LLaP
    
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    THAT is the Exploration that awaits you: not mapping stars or studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of Existence.
    
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I like | Report this post to moderator
By: Scorpius (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:00:25 on Aug 18, 2004

This guy could well be the hero of the modern Star Trek era that propells Enterprise to the quality of DS9. The guy oozes consistency and quality.

Can't wait for part 2.

Thanks for this interview Steve!

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"Men don't use sex to get what they want. Sex IS what they want" - Frasier

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Kirk | Report this post to moderator
By: BringBackKirk (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:19:57 on Aug 18, 2004

What makes me happy is seeing that talks with Shatner are still ongoing and that the comment made by Shatner likely was indeed in jest.

Mr. Coto--please get Paramount to pay the man. Any salary will be recouped with the higher ratings he will give you.

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Great Interview! | Report this post to moderator
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The true Vulcan calling... | Report this post to moderator
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RE: The true Vulcan calling... | Report this post to moderator
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Busy, busy... | Report this post to moderator
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Busy, busy... | Report this post to moderator
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