RE: Yes your attitude is very pathetic. | Report this post to moderator
By: cooper2000 (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:35:14 on Jul 14, 2004

I dont think you're lazy but I am with Scorned.
Berman's good days are over.
If you want to watch Good Sci fi like B5 and Farscape and then say Trek is still a good show than I'll understand where you are coming from but to put everyone down that doesnt think like you is a joke.

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RE: Yes your attitude is very pathetic. | Report this post to moderator
By: Scorned (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:54:14 on Jul 12, 2004

Quote:"Scorned, you are the worst of the bunch. "

Yes I am the worst of the bunch. I am the only person here who has made comments about how bad this idea of "every past trek member coming back as a grandparent". I am the only one thinks that a Romulan war movie trilogy is a bad idea. Oh yes, I am worst.. blah blah blah... Give it a rest!


Quote:"This franchise has NOT given us "pure crap" for 6 years.

I disagree. STIX Insurrection, STX: Nemesis and ENT. Ent which was almost canceled by the second season because of very, very poor ratings. A show that has yet to have ratings above 5 million a week. A SAD comparison to TNG with its 20 million a week and compared to the ENT's own pilot of 16 million. A very sad showing.

So again I ask you what has been so great these past 6 years?


Quote:"You are one of the reverse stepford fans I mentioned.

I am not a step ford fan. Is that something like a step ford wife? Because I am not that either. hahah


Quote:"If it's bad you complain, If it's good you complain.

I have NEVER complained about the quality of STII, STIV, STVI and parts of TNG and DS9. ENT as a whole is and will always be shit because the same incompetent people are there running it. Who cares if Coto is writing? Berman has the power to override ANYTHING Coto writes. So there is NO change. You can partially thank "SaveEnterprise" for this.


Quote:"ENTERPRISE has been pretty darned good. It started off shakey in year one but with each passing year it's gotten better and season three was really great.

This is the not their first day on the job nor is it their first series. For ENT to start off so badly is a true sign of the incompetence that is running Trek. Season 2 was so bad that it was almost CANCELED. Season 3 was no better. They have yet to break any kind of records with the ratings. After their little mini cliffhanger in "Azati Prime" followed by their 6 week break before coming back into "Damaged". That episode after the 6 week break had LOW ratings. No one cared to much to see what had happened after.
After all the lies and hype about the Xindi arc having some great ending. We see that they rushed "Zero Hour's" ending to jump to some crazy Nazi crap. Fan reaction to the Nazi idea has not been "positive" as you might think it is. A great deal of fans were like "Why?" If you don't believe me go back and reread some of it. Now we get Braga saying that they would like to blow off the lid on this boring/ going no where TCW arc which just plan sucks. Two seasons of it and it went NO WHERE! ENT from day one has been a MAJOR disappointment. It was bad enough they jumped on the Star Wars prequel band wagon (showing that they have no new ideas) but they couldn't even come close to the success of those prequel movies. Enterprise being "a pretty darned good show" is your opinion however a great deal of evidence suggests otherwise.


Quote:" And I am not someone who will except anything with the TREK brand name stamped on it. I hated VOYAGER and NEMESIS with a passion.

Excuse me but you just contradicted yourself earlier saying and I quote :"This franchise has NOT given us "pure crap" for 6 years. It is clear that they did. You seemed to have forgotten about it.


Quote:" ENTERPRISE hasn't been nearly as good as CLASSIC, DS9, or NEXT GENERATION but it's still been pretty good. You wouldn't know it to come here. All you read in these posts is how aweful the show is, despite the fact that it's far from it.

Again that is your opinion but facts are facts and this show is a dud. Hence the revamping after Season 2 to a "post voy" show. Now another revamp for season 4 which makes it "Quantum Leap".


Quote:"Berman is not the devil.

No he is an idiot and has a tendency to show the world that daily.


Quote:"He is a producer.

Not a very good one. Allowing Trek to go into the toilet is not a sign of doing a good job.


Quote:"A Producer who has given us a lot of good TREK.

Like what? Like the first 2 seasons of ENT. Which were pure shit.


Quote:"NEXT GENERATION's first two seasons kind of sucked. Berman took over from Roddenberry in season three, and suddenly the show got really good.

Again your opinion and Berman did NOT take over TNG. Roddenberry was still there until he got sick. Even if Berman gave us good Trek. What happened because we haven't had anything worth while since DS9.


Quote:" He's co-creator of DS9, my favorite TREK series, and was producer of FIRST CONTACT, one of the best movies.

Lets face it DS9 was Piller all the way. If DS9 is your favourite Trek series and you think that ENT is a good show. There is something wrong with you because you can't see that you have been "slumming for 3 seasons now."

STII is the best Trek movie to date. The very blue print that all other Trek movies are compared too. No one compares ANY Trek film to a previous Berman one for a comparison of "greatness". No one says "Is STXI going to be as good as Insurrection". They usually say "Is STXI going to suck like Insurrection".

FC was a mess. The borg were reduced from a great eneny to a bunch of "killer bees". It was a mess.

Nice of you to forget all the CRAP inbetween.


Quote:"Sure, VOYAGER sucked, but honestly the man has more good TREK then bad on his resume.

Like what? By the way Voyager was co-created by him.


Quote:"Would I like someone new to come in? Some new blood? Yeah, that would be nice. But guess what? It's not happening. We're stuck with him, probobly because Paramount signed him to a multi-year contract and it would be expensive to cut him loose.

Bullshit. No one gets a "life time contract". In the last 6 years Berman has NOT signed a new contract? I don't think so. WHY sign him to do another movie then? This is all BS and speculation on your part. Again I blame fans like you and those idiots of "SaveEnterprise" for doing those ads saying how much they like ENT and how much they appreciate the work of the cast and crew. Guess what "Crew" includes Berman and Braga. This just gave their bosses reason not to get rid of them. They should of said "get rid of the writers including Berman". But they didn't. Fans like you will sit back and let Berman do anything. You have no spine. You have no insight in what could be construed as being another "bad movie" or "bad idea" by the great incompetent jackass named Rick Berman. This "lets wait and see" attitude makes me sick.

Besides this past March there was a rumor of Berman getting cut loose. Too bad it was just a rumor.


Quote:"So I guess I'm a lazy fan because I hope for the best.

With the attitude of "lets wait and see another car wreck" I already figured that one out. Nice of you to admit it though.


Quote:"What does a non lazy fan do,anyway? Drive out to Hollywood, invade the set, and start shooting the series himself?? We're powerless. We can write in and say what we think. Paramount will either listen or they won't. Other then that it's out of your hands.

What a disgusting display of apathy! The very show that become a cult classic. The very show that got a third season because of fan writing in.
The stars of this very show telling fans to "write in they get read". All to this is because "fans wrote in and bitched". Without the fans (well real ones, not people like you) are the ones who will or will not support Trek in the past.

STXI the Romulan wars movie will not make ONE dime from me. I will not sit 2 hrs in a theater and waste my time on another Berman piece of shit Trek movie. I will not sit in a theater listening to fans "LAUGH" at the movie like they did during Nemesis. Pointing out all the mistakes and plot holes. It was embarrassing!

A lot of what I said you will not agree with nor have the capacity to understand. But if you get one thing out of this is that the "FANS are the reason for Star Trek's existence" And if you think for one fucking moment that a letter campaign, billboard campaign or email campaign does nothing. You are sadly mistaken.


Quote:"Thankfully there is more good then bad.

Not in the last 6 years. You said it yourself that Voyager sucked and Nemesis you hated.


Quote:"There are more good episodes of ENTERPRISE then bad ones,

The first 2 seasons say otherwise. As for season 3 ripping off TOS and TNG episodes left and right. Then any success of S3 is directed at that reason, nothing else. No magically great increase in ideas and creativity.


Quote:"and more good TREK movies then bad ones.

Funny out of the first 6 TOS movie. Only 1 is disliked by fans on a grand scale. (One out of six is not bad!)
Out of the 4 TNG movies (All Berman involved) there are 2 duds. That is HALF. So do the math.

NOW you expect this tired old incompetent fool to give us something as great as STII? WHAT color is the sky in your world? WHAT makes you think that Berman is going to give us something as good as STII? Your logic on this is lacking.


Quote:"Of course you'll disagree because you have a desire to hate the show.

I don't have a desire to hate it. It is not watch able nor is worth while to be called Trek. Funny how the show ditched the name "Star Trek" until season 3. Trying to cash in on the Star Trek name as much as possible. Ent is a failure. You have yet to realize that.


Quote:"Nevermind the fact that episodes like Cogenitor, and Similitude stand right up there with episodes like City on the eDGe and The Visitor. post whatever reply you want because I'm not responding anymore. .

Cogenitor the same as "City On The Edge".... Your a moron!! City on the Edge was an award winning show. Cogenitor won nothing. You will not respond back to me because you have nothing to stand on. You can't stand your ground with me. It is that clear.


Quote:"I've read your posts for a long time n ow. I know what your like"

Yes..correct!

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