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The latest issue of Star Trek Monthly magazine, just out in the UK, features an exclusive interview with TREK executive producer Rick Berman, in which he hints at the Season 3 finale "Zero Hour" and Season 4, and tells us his personal high points of the season.
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Everyone's points are well taken about why Shatner should play Kirk. But let's face it, Shatner's got a lot of miles on him. Even Hollywood makeup and CGI isn;t gonna make him look 50 (or evern 60). So it wouldn't be so bad to see him in a different role.
After playing Nurse Chapel on TOS, Majel Roddenberry came back as Luxwana Troi. Sure, neither of those characters were all that memorable (I'd've loved to see her costarring each week as "Number One.") But it does show that it's still nice to see a familiar actor in a different role.
I wish B&B would bring back other Trek actors in a similar manner. It would be nice to see the familiar faces of Levar Burton, Michael Dorn, Marina Sitris, Nana Visitor, etc. etc. even if they were not reprising their original roles.
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GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!.... You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! -- William Shatner on Saturday Night Live (1986)
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Well dude, I guess I'm not the purist that you are! As a TOS fan, of course I'd like to see Kirk again. But I'd rather see Shatner in any role than not at all.
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GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!.... You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! -- William Shatner on Saturday Night Live (1986)
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I thought the flaws were in the logic of the science. Is the story fundamentally flawed as well?
Yes. The "drama" in Similitude is as gland-driven as any of the all-action episodes. Similitude's "controversy" fails by not offering even just one champion for innocent sentient life, at time when life is cheapened by the madness of war. If a story is supposed to be controversial, it'll use its characters to present a multifarious scenario. Similitude relies on Sim's "I don't want to die" howls to trigger an emotional response in viewers. This has all of the "drama" of seeing a piglet squeal at the butcher shop, knowing it will meet its end to serve the Greater Good.
Hoshi happily reads a children's story with the unsuspecting young piglet. Phlox joyfully fattens him up for slaughter, raising him as a son -- while collecting piglet pee and poop to fertilize the sickbay ferns, like a farm animal. Reed shows nothing more than detached curiosity about the piglet's access to Tucker's feelings and memories of keylime pie. Not one Human crewmember is alarmed by Sim's fate, and Denobulans and Vulcans are just wimps who step in line behind Humans, according to writer Manny Coto.
Except for lifespan, Sim becomes every bit as "Human" as any other member of the crew. Would Archer murder Hoshi or Reed to save Tucker? Unlikely, so Archer's hypocritical eulogy glorifies the sacrifice of a non-Human, a foreigner, someone who isn't part of his moral majority. Coto's message is that Humanity won't champion your life if you're not "One of us". If Sim had looked like an oinker, not a human, there could've been a bar-b-que feast of roast beast, instead of a funeral, at the end of the episode.
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I applaud "Similitude" for taking the road less travelled
In order to travel down Similitude Road, B&B had to further discredit ENT's characters.
Do we need to go over, again, how the first two seasons establish Phlox's exaggerated dedication to high professional standards and ethics? Similitude pays some lip service to that, when Phlox tells Archer, "I'm obligated to provide you with all available options" -- yet Phlox fails to disclose the Lyssarian enzyme option, even though there is evidence that it could work. By the time that option is brought into Archer's equation -- by Sim -- there isn't enough time to synthesize the enzyme, even though that process requires just one day. Phlox the Plot Puppet is, once again, conveniently stupid and unprofessional.
And, imagine yourself in a godforsaken Twilight Zone where you could be attacked, at any moment, by superior enemies or deadly (un)natural forces. In other words, imagine yourself in the Expanse, stalked by the Xindi, spacial anomalies, and miscellaneous pirates. Under those circumstances, you'd be a suicidal fool to bugger with the perfectly good engine of your one and only offense/defense vehicle. Well, along comes Huckleberry Tucker with a hankering to force a measly extra 0.1 warp out of engines that are operating within their design optimum. Sure enough, Murphy's 1st Law rears up, and NX-01 (hence, The Mission) is jeopardized by swarming nucleonic particles. Evolution was only trying to purge the stupidity gene from the DNA pool when Tucker was put into a coma. Sim appeared to be the better man.
ENT Season Three hasn't had a champion for Humanity. Archer is a schizophrenic martyr; Tucker sexually exploits an emotionally stunted and brain-damaged female; T'Pol is Berman's weakling bimbo mutant; and Phlox is a conniving hypocrite.
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Well these really are nitpicks that don't deal with the overall story.
Trying to sneak under the viewers' sensibility radar, by utilizing what we don't know, can be acceptable or even necessary. Trying to deny what we do know, without accountability, is not acceptable. That single Borg ship, for example, can get by on acceptable unknowns in the story -- e.g. for all we know it was a case of "one ship is all this plan gets". Similitude, on the other hand, expects us to disregard knowns, such as what we were previously shown of Phlox's character and competence.
Based on what we know of Phlox's integrity, from character development in earlier seasons, it's writing dereliction to have Phlox decide that Archer doesn't need to be informed of a medical condition that renders T'Pol unfit for command, in Damage -- and it's writing dereliction to have Phlox omit information that could affect Archer's life-or-death decision in Similitude.
And, there are any number of ways to put Tucker on a death bed -- have him slip on a peach peel -- but Manny Coto sets up the pretense of Similitude by using what we commonly know to be needlessly hazardous behavior in a war zone.
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If anyone is exploiting anyone, it's T'Pol, who is decades Trip's senior, not to mention his senior officer.
That's outrageous. T'Pol is officially brain damaged! The medically incompetent can't be held to the same standards of responsibility and behavior as the medically firm. Berman is banking on that, to account for his exploitation of Jolene Blalock's character. Tucker is an instrument of Berman's abuse, and as such is written as being too juvenile and insensitive to recognize that there's something seriously wrong in T'Pol's behavior.
ENT's writers have a habit of trying to create drama by making the characters appear uncommonly and cartoonishly stupid.
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Except she started her pursuit of Tucker before "Impulse."
Provide onscreen examples of her "pursuit."
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And you have yet to explain how Tucker could possibly know that T'Pol is having actual clinical mental problems.
I've already pointed out that Tucker is made too much of an insensitive jackass to be concerned about T'Pol's aberrant behavior. Would you need a clinical report, to care about behavior which suggests that something has gone seriously wrong with someone that you've lived and worked with for three years?
Under civilized western convention, a man doesn't take advantage of a woman while she's in apparent distress, duress, or otherwise in leave of her senses (including the influence of drugs or alcohol). So, Berman makes Tucker an ignorant hick who doesn't even care that he stinks during intimacy.
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I never bought this criticism because to me it's silly and formulaic to always force a "both sides" issue story.
Wow. Look who made an appearance after so long an absence! 
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It's like when the media gets the Republican and Democratic points of view on a topic, as if there are only two points of view in the first place, to give the illusion of "balance" rather than interrogating the issue further itself.
This has nothing to do with "balance" and everything to do with not only providing character development opportunities (ie., by the contrarian's very arguments, their own character gets fleshed out and can lead to an ep where their views are themselves challenged), but enhancing the drama without alot of gimmicks and inconsistent character behavior.
The fact that TOS and TNG and even DS9 essentially had multiple character "types", ie.,
1.) The Intellectual (Spock, Data, Jadzia)
2.) The Compassionate (McCoy, Crusher, Bashir and later Ezri)
3.) The Warrior (Yar, Worf)
4.) The Innovative (Scotty, LaForge, O'Brien)
The above "traits" were assigned to a character. And that character applied their "trait-as-personality" to the debate about whether to do something or not. It didn't have to be 1 on 1, but could include 2 or 3 different perspectives of the same situation, and it would be up to the Captain to listen and use what he/she felt was valid based on that Captain's own experiences and personality.
So many posters here have claimed they want "more conflict". Yet when the conflict opportunities arise in an example such as ENT "Similitude", the conflict-cravers fall eerily silent when the conflict is essentially and summarily removed from the equation.
Conflict does not just = who can punch who out the hardest.
The early conflict between Reed and Trip in ENT "Silent Enemy" was quite fascinating. And there is an on-again, off-again tit-for-tat between the two. And this type of thing needs to continue. Yet this type of thing was also missing in ENT "Similitude".
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While many great STAR TREK eps have taken this approach, by essentially having it all and making everybody comfortable in the end because at least the episode was "balanced,"
Before you go on here, I will say that not every Trek has come out with "everybody comfortable". Case in point was O'Brien's decision in DS9 "Hippocratic Oath". Granted, the ep itself as an attempt to slowly begin to flesh out the intractable Jem'Hadar (not unlike those attempts to do the same with the Borg), wasn't particularly strong in that effect, mainly because the Jem'Hadar had originally been portrayed almost up-against-the-wall fanatical... But the interaction between Bashir and O'Brien was the crux of that matter, taken to an interesting, different conclusion. But not one that was particularly compromised in order to have a "happy ending" (but perhaps somewhat clever given how very strongly polar both sides of the debate had been written initially).
Similarly, the ending of TOS "A Private Little War" certainly was NOT a "happy" ending. On the contrary, Nona was dead, Tyree's folks knew how to fire flintlocks. So the battling between the Hill People and Village People would continue long after Kirk left. Ie., Roddeberry and Coon who wrote that, left it like that. So despite McCoy's pleadings (and note that early on in that ep, Spock was removed from the equation and kept from his commentary role... ;-)), things did not necessarily pan out.
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I applaud "Similitude" for taking the road less travelled and not giving us endless talking scenes of characters debating the morality of the thing.
But again, the so-called moral "debate" doesn't necessarily have to relate to the situation at hand but can help to flesh out characters without having to resort to quota, stand-alone character episodes. There was a specific reason why such was done because it was the crux of episodic TV. And DS9 managed to transfer this to the serial format in a very innovative way. Certainly commentator characters such as Garak MUST be there in ENT. Because there is an inability on the part of the writers to have Humanity comment about itself in any meaningful way without resorting to a formal speech. Soon as we see some real commentary characters - and Shran certainly is a good one, the few times that he has appeared, then the "speeches" about Humanity can go away.
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We got plenty as it was and the story was about Archer and his decision more than the actual ethicality of the decision.
Sadly, there was little about Archer in ENT "Similitude" and much more about Trip and Sim.
And the reason for this is - and I've said this time and time and time again - there has been little in the way of getting across any type of "best friend" relationship between Archer and Trip. Except for ENT "Vox Sola" where the two share pretzels and a beer watching a recording of a college water polo championship and the interaction between the two during ENT "Desert Crossing", little or nothing has been done to show closeness.
Archer orders Trip to do something. Trips says "Yessir." Trip acts out, Archer comes at him like a bull in the china closet, not even caring to understand why his "best friend" feels the way he does, and then barks more orders at him. Case in point, in ENT "The Council" when Trip is obviously bad-mouthing Degra, Archer just barks more orders to him about his behavior. There's no scene where Archer takes Trip into the Ready Room and tries to at least be a good listener regarding his "best friend". Meaning "best friend" doesn't matter. All that matters is Archer's own selfish quest for the holy grail. To hell with anything and anyone else.
They are NOT "best friends" as much as the writers keep claiming they are, and so this weakens ENT "Similitude" even more.
The only thing that I did notice was Bakula's ability to do a reasonable "aloof" characterization with his acting while doing scenes with the young Sim.
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I think the ep made it pretty clear that the decision was unethical; the point was in Archer rationalizing his making such a decision to himself.
But that's just it. There WAS no heart-felt rationalization here from Archer. He viewed Trip as an object (an "Engineer") that was needed to complete his mission. He NEVER viewed Trip as a person, one who he was close to, who he could weep over, who he would take a bullet for, who he had been through hard times with (other than a throwaway mention of survival training and using that training in ENT "Desert Crossing").
In execution, the ep was very good. However the weak characters make it fail.
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Quote:Wow. Look who made an appearance after so long an absence!
Honeymoon.
Ahh.... Hope you had a nice time. 
I guess now "the honeymoon is over" and back to the "real world"? hee hee
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As to your points... I think you're mostly making the case that there was another way to do the episode. My opinion is that the way it was done was excellent and every bit as valid as if it had been done in the more traditional TREK way that you suggest. Honestly I don't want to see more Spock/Data/Odo/Tuvok characters--it's been done infinitely better on the other series. I realize that's sort of a TREK trope, but to me, I liked home "Similitude" took a different angle. It wasn't just the standard "alien comments on human actions."
Well certainly it didn't have to be. It could have been Human comments on other Human's actions, which then helps to define each of those Human characters' point of view.
Again, I critique based on wanting to see SOME Trek since TNG, WIN a Hugo or Peabody. Sadly, even DS9 didn't win any of these. I think by forcing Archer to take literal full responsibility, it would have added an extra "HOLY CRAP!" to the episode and made it a better contender. ;-)
Yet what happened was the exact type of conclusion that you complain happens in other Treks. ;-)
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As to Trip/Archer, it's been pretty clear since the show started that their "friendship" isn't all that friendly.
Oh my. *I* saw that, but just based on the arguments by so many posters here and elsewhere regarding why Archer insisted on Phlox going through with the procedure, they point to Archer supposedly "doing this for his best friend".
IMHO, to the contrary, he was doing it for himself, as he the self-appointed weight-bearer for this "mission". ;-)
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Aside from "First Flight" I can hardly recall much development on that angle.
Exactly my point and we agree.
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Perhaps it started that way and the Bible says it exists but it seems to me that the writers sort of decided to abandon it so I don't see a problem in ignoring it in "Similitude."
Well... I don't necessarily have an issue with abandoning it... But then supposedly they wanted to create this "Big 3" thing with some close relationship between Archer-T'Pol-Trip. And what has resulted is essentially a love triangle, with Trip desiring T'Pol and T'Pol desiring Archer.
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It's not like in the previous week Archer and Trip were singing songs over a bottle of Andorian ale or something. We've hardly seen them in any sort of O'Brien/Bashir sort of context so I don't think you can bring that oft-tread story thread in as a criticism as you're doing.
Ahh but this has been my critique in answer to previous debates regarding Archer and his behavior, particularly that with Trip. Even startrek.com's bio for Trip claims a "strong bond".
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As to Archer's objectification of Trip as a necessity, I think that was part of the point. Archer had to rationalize killing Sim, and he couldn't just say to himself "Trip is my friend, I'd rather have him than you." So the whole point was that he came up with that whole "Trip is an engineer who I need on this mission" to convince himself that what he was doing was justified.
Yet we've seen him essentially treat Trip as an "object" before there was the creation of Sim. But because such a catastrophe was contrived, the way out of it was not particularly intellectually interesting. Ie., what would be helpful is more use of the personal log so that Archer can (and you know what I'm going to say):
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It was also a pretty compelling argument, since Sim would die in 30 days and Enterprise would be left with no engineer on an admittedly crucial mission.
Well now I know everyone has put a date on this clone, but I believe the clone had a lifespan of 15 days. ;-)
But in any case, one could easily extrapolate out any odds if Trip was no longer there. Ie., they could have easily made allies or found others within the Expanse to get help - just like what just happened after ENT "Damage". And this is why some tweeks in there would have actually helped define Archer a bit more and strengthened the ep.
But instead, Archer was written to wimp out and so was Phlox.
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"I think the show talked to people through the characters. They're stories that speak to the heart. They talk about love, they talk about friendship, they talk about loyalty, they talk about patriotism, exploration, curiosity, reaching out... And I think all those things still touch people. Even when you look at a 30-year old show, it still has something to say." - D.C. Fontana, Sci Fi Channel Special Edition TOS 1998
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Great job finding the sources there. Some things to add.
T&T, Unification, & Encounter at Farpoint were all the highest rated episodes of the particular season it aired. The Spock episode was the third highest rated show in TNG history, with Encounter at Farpoint second.
Right. And I consider that you've now had 4 cast appearances, with 3 major ones (Nimoy, Kelly, Doohan) and Shatner is clearly the missing element. Although I do understand why in this instance because by stepping back, one can let the "new" Captain shine.
But since the franchise has been in a steady spiral downwards and since so many of the masses have no idea that a Trek is still airing, it might be time for some "infusion". ;-)
What is also interesting is that the previous series had crossovers from their predecessors (including TNG) to pass the baton. ENT has had no such, although the premise didn't really allow for it. But then that meant that it stood out alone, disconnected from the rest...
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Due to some unknown fluke, Aquiel rated a 14.1,
And you better damn sure believe it was a fluke because that literally ranked up there as one of the worst eps of that season and a real stinker for the Geordi character. BUT... it was shown during sweeps AND on Valentine's Day I see. ;-) I have to go back and dig up my tape of it to see how it was advertised and whether there was some "special" on before it or something. LOL
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which is the only reason the Scotty episode wasn't the top rated episode of that season. The average TNG episode that season was a 12.53.
Yeah, "Relics" was promoted quite a bit and consistently ranks as #1 or at least in "Top 10" TNG polls (along with BoBW and "Inner Light"). However I considered it one of the worst things that one could do to a TOS character save for what was done to Kirk in GEN.
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The average TNG episode in the Spock season was 12.50.
The average rated episode in Season 1 was 10.9.
The average rated episode in the DS9 season 5, when T&T aired, was 5.7.
The average rated episode in the year Flashback aired was 4.78.
So every single TOS related episode beat the average by a decent number.
As would be expected.
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On to a Kirk episode...
This time, it wouldn't be a flashback like T&T or a fake Sulu. If it's the real deal, post-Generations Kirk, the buzz is going to be overwhelming. Doubling the average is not out of the question, especially with the average being so low.
Yeah... LOL But that's assuming UPN actually advertised it. ;-)
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But it has to be the real Kirk. Anything less would hurt the ratings and piss off too many fans.
It has to be permanent. They must gain momentum with it. So MOST IMPORTANT is that they cannot kill the character again or leave the status quo. If they do either of those two things, they ruin any chance of goodwill.
Yeah and that would be the death knell. It would be interesting to see Nimoy pen the episode actually. Sortof a disinterested 3rd party who has publicly complained about recent Trek and its recent films.
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If they do a good episode, satisfy the legions of Kirk fans that want the character alive, the next week will be a higher than average rating.
The episode after T&T got a 7.0.
The episode after the Spock episode got a 13.9.
The episode after the McCoy episode got a 11.5.
But if the episode sucks, there will be a backlash.
And if the rest of the season sucked, that would also be it because it would be like reintroducing the franchise to the masses only to turn them off again.
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Flashback was AWFUL. I felt it was a slap in the face of TOS. I consider it one of, if not THE worst episode in Trek history, and that's saying a lot.
Well... I considered it a weak ep and the plot was contrived. And although it was interesting to see a different viewpoint of TUC, obviously Braga (who wrote that), once again missed the continuity boat (considering that he supposedly wanted nothing to do with TOS).
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They had a smug Janeway making fun of TOS. People can debate that issue, but a lot of people had that reaction.
Well now I know the world is full of VOY bashers... ;-) But I didn't think that this was any worse than Moore's "whiney obsolete" Scotty in TNG "Relics". THAT, IMHO, was one of the saddest things about that ep that so many other people liked. I didn't like it at all, except for at the very end when the special FX folks had the 1701-D excecute a perfect escape out of the Dyson Sphere. Other than that, "Relics" was awful with how it showed Scotty. Like he was a has been, getting under foot, annoying everyone around him. THAT was a damned disgrace. 
People keep wanting to embrace "Relics" as an "hommage" and it was NOT, IMHO.
And similarly, one can argue over and over about this but THAT is what I saw on first viewing, 2nd viewing, hundredth viewing.
So Janeway and Sulu was nothing compared to the damage done to Scotty.
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And there was a ratings backlash the next week. The Chute, a much better episode than Flashback, only got a 4.3.
That's the distinction. The other TOS related stories were positive and satisfying. But Flashback was not.
Nor was "Relics". It was bad enough that "Relics" ended up being made inconsistent due to the events of the later-released GEN, a film that I still conclude was the beginning of the end of the franchise.
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If they bring back Kirk, don't turn him into a villain, don't kill him again, establish it is post-Generations (and acknowledge what happened), and leave it with an optimistic ending, where Kirk returns to the future, they will get a ratings boon.
Well I still thought the concept as shown in the BBK trailer was sortof fascinating, not that all of that crossover would need to happen (although I know they said they did that purposefully to show the possibilities). But the interaction between an Archer and a Kirk was interesting...
And if people aren't aware of it by now, but Bakula has been very very vocal in interviews about having never met Shatner and really really wanting to... And supposedly "everyone he knew" had already met Shanter except him... LOL
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"I think the show talked to people through the characters. They're stories that speak to the heart. They talk about love, they talk about friendship, they talk about loyalty, they talk about patriotism, exploration, curiosity, reaching out... And I think all those things still touch people. Even when you look at a 30-year old show, it still has something to say." - D.C. Fontana, Sci Fi Channel Special Edition TOS 1998
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"If the season finale involves the re-built USS Reliant coming back in time to the 21st Century crewed by Moogie, Dr. Selar, Morn, Transporter Chief Kyle, and the Salt Vampire, then we'll know that Coto has gone too far." - tomba1701
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