If these two brain trusts write the script then I will bet my whole life that this will be complete tripe. I swear it, if by some miracle or holy act of God these two retards actually put together a story that is on par with episodes like "The Council" or "Countdown", then I will sell myself into slavery. My projection is that it will be all cliche, out of character, predictable plot, and have long winded dialog over some moot point, and have some kind of derailing plot device at some point in the story that brings the story to an abrupt hault and makes no sense at all.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Ok, maybe it won't be that bad. But I seriously and honestly doubt that B&B can produce the type of story that is of the same high caliber as Chris Black or Manny Coto can produce.
Check out the official "Zero Hour" page:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/4968.html
Scroll down to the cast. Either they wasted Jeffrey Combs' time just to shoot a few minutes in the Federation conference, OR the Andorians are involved in saving Earth. Though, the latter would suck, considering that it would steal Archer's thunder. But then again, how would Degra's ship make it within transporting range to the weapon without back up?
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I remember the 90s like it was yesterday. When the net was still exclusive to the CIA. When teen boppers still didn't want to escape denim jackets and walky talkies, er, cell phones.
Here's to hoping B&B have learned how to write...or that they really didn't write, but want their names on the credits anyways :)
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“People who are willing to give up their liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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Did you see the trailer? The background during the Daniels' scene looks like the formation of the Federation. What do you think?
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I remember the 90s like it was yesterday. When the net was still exclusive to the CIA. When teen boppers still didn't want to escape denim jackets and walky talkies, er, cell phones.
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That did indeed look like it might be the Federation Council chamber.
And seeing that ever-so-brief glimpse jogged my memory on something that had never really occurred to me before, and I'll be interested to see if B&B were smart enough to make use of it.
A lot of us have complained about continuity and so forth ever since this series started. Well, since it's pretty much a given that we'll either see the founding of the Federation on Enterprise, or see major steps toward that, there's an open hole in continuity that B&B could make use of if they're clever.
To this point, we only know for certain who FOUR of the five founding members of the Federation are. Earth, Vulcan, Andor, and Tellar. The fifth founding member has never been confirmed onscreen, though there has been behind-the-scenes speculation. Well, I don't know why it took so long for this to hit me, but is it possible the fifth founding member will be the Xindi?
It would seem to fit with the direction the story has gone, at least in terms of the Arboreals, Primates, and Aquatics, and possibly even the Insectoids now, judging by this latest episode. And for once it wouldn't be a case of B&B abusing the storyline, since the fifth founder has never been established.
Thoughts?
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the fifth members were the Alpha Centaurans (in TOS, Zefram Cochrane's peeps)
I think the original concept by Roddenberry was that the Alpha Centaurans were teh first race humanity ran into. And they looked pretty human too. So it kinda calmed folks down enough to run into the second groups of aliens they met, the Vulcans.
However, since First Contact, all that went buh bye. So the Xindi could be those same Alpha Centaurans, since I don't think the location of the Expanse was ever really discussed
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As far as I'm aware, the fifth founding member has never been confirmed onscreen, and I'm not positive that the Andorians and Tellarites have been confirmed either, though that is widely assumed throughout fandom. If you have a source that backs your claim up, please share it, otherwise you're speculating as much as anyone else.
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Granted, according to Star Trek RPG: The Federation, Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology, the Starfleet Technical Manual and the Star Trek novel Strangers in the sky, all stste that the fifth member is Alpha Centauri, the only time the Alpha Centauri is mentioned onscreen is in the TOS episode Metamorphosis, with Zefram Cochrane.
However, if ya wanna get reeeeeeallllly technical, the book Star Trek Chronology by Michael and Denise Okuda (which, as far I know, is still considered canon until they come up with an Enterprise version) does not even mention five founding memebers. Rather, it states that the federation was founded in 2161 and headed up by a council. Doesn't say five members, 12 members or a gajillion members.
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That's gotta be what it is. What did he say? "None of this will happen without you," or something like that.
Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed. Hopefully, the episode will be better than the trailer indicated, but using Daniels at this critical juncture indicates that a reset button of some sort is in the works. But it would be apropos in a way, because the Sphere Builders have been monkeying with the timeline, so maybe Daniels monkeys with it in a more subtle way.
At any rate, it'll be interesting to see. I hope it's better than the Smallville season finale...it seemed a bit contrived (hell, it seemed a lot contrived).
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A generation which ignores history has no past and no future. -- Robert Heinlein
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If you go to startrek.com and look at the pics from Zero Hour, you can see Archer in the last shot, he appears to have burns on his face and deep cuts on his hand. But that's not the most interesting thing.
Also notice that in the background are 19-20th century bed cotts. Also notice the 19-20 century oil burning lamp that someone who is approching his bed is holding.
VERY interesting.
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Hmm, yes it is interesting. The caption also says, "Archer is about to face the odd aftermath of his mission." What could be odd about it?
I'd guess just from the picture that it's about WW1 era or so (1915), possibly further back into the Civil War (1860s). Could they be trying to "homage" TNG "Time's Arrow," or are they on the Human/Skag planet from "North Star"? I'm seriously hoping it's the latter.
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Falcon, I agree on your acessment of the season finale, but disagree with your take on Smallville. That was an extraordianary episode.
Lana goes to Paris
Lional gets his hair chopped off to "look like his son" and contrives a plot to kill Cloe, which appears to happen
Clark begins his transformation
and Lex is poisoned
What didn't you like? Or what did you like?
In passing, I hope Daniel's "dies" in Zero Hour revealing some things for Archer about the TCW, Future Guy, etc...but leaves Archer to figure it out for himself. Hoshi really is the hero as she helps Archer and Reed destroy the weapon.
Viva Hoshi!
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I just thought that Kara's denouement was kind of slapdash. What, she's not Kryptonian? The meteor rocks can do a lot of weird things, but if they could give someone superpowers, everybody in Smallville would be flying and bending steel in their bare hands. Also, it makes Jor-El out to be a real monster, which is in total violation of canon (there I go again, using the "c" word). After all, he vaporized Kara/Lindsey when she had served her purpose.
The last act certainly flew by, with all the events leaving loose ends to tie up next season, and it seemed too rushed. Those things should have happened gradually, through the episode. It was like the writers ran out of time and had to figure a way to get it all in. Granted, the way they did it was pretty stylish, but it still felt incredibly rushed.
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A generation which ignores history has no past and no future. -- Robert Heinlein
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Oh yeah, there won't be a reset button. No cop out on this one.
Unless Archer "leaps" out and into himself 3 years prior. :-)
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