RE: It is time to wrap this thing up NOW! | Report this post to moderator
By: Scorned (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:15:42 on Jan 05, 2004

Quote:"Scorned, just shut up. You don't know anything about good story telling. Ending the Xindi now will be bad since we're still in the beginning and the ending would be a cop out. "

And you do know something about good story telling? What have you published? Just shut up little boy and let the adults talk.


Quote:"How would you know? You haven't even seen any of the episodes except for "The Xindi".

Do you think I don't know what is going on? You think I don't read what is posted here? You don't think that I know people that still waste their time watching it and they tell me about it? I told you before, when it gets good I will start to watch. So far....nothing.


Quote:" They are doing it on purpose to make the story more interesting and more complex. Time travel could be involved, you know. I believe the FG did say "Humans 500 years in the future" in The Expanse, so it could mean humans 500 years in the future went back in time to start the Xindi civil war that destroyed their homeworld. Use your imagination for once!

No it is just some more mindless unscripted B&B writing. The "Time travel" scapegoat? The FG said that humanity in the future destroyed the Xindi planet. You learned that they Xindi destroyed their own homeworld by THEMSELVES. There is NO mention of humans. So instead of sitting there with your thumb up your ass going "I wonder if". I suggest you just "follow what is said" and stop living in a dream world.


Quote:"Each episode of this season has contributed to the Xindi arch. How do I know this? I'VE SEEN THE EPISODES!!!!!!

Well good for you and you still know nothing about this so called "fantastic story line" and the season is half over now. There are phrases that describe this (i.e. milking it, dragging it out & stalling). Time to pick up the pace and wrap this up. I am sick of hearing about this dumb Xindi and their big "bad weapon".


Quote:"BECAUSE THEY WERE BREIF COMMENTS!!!!! THEY COULDN'T GIVE A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE ENTIRE WAR, HOW IT STARTED, AND HOW IT ENDED. Spock just needed a short and to the point comment about the Romulan Wars. When you talk about World War II, do you explain in great detail of how in started and what happened during the war? NO! If you want to know how the Xindi ties in to the Romulan Wars, read some of my threads!

Again I knew you would jump on this Romulan war thing. That makes 8 now. When people talk about WWII they DO happen to mention some of the details. They don't go "some little German guy who might of had three stage syphilis killed 6 million jews". Do you watch ANYTHING that is on the History channel. They go into great detail about WWII. No one sits there and goes "WWII Germans bad, lots dead, we won" next topic. The episode in TOS makes NO reference to the Xindi because there is no connection to the Romulan war. You still are in denial about the dislike B&B have for the Romulans. Don't hold your breath waiting for it. Well maybe you should hold your breath. They are not going to go from one war arc to another. They are going to burn out the audience with the constant war themes. This show is suppose to be about the foundation of the Federation. NOT FIGHTING WARS WEEK AFTER WEEK. I personally don't give a shit about your threads. I am not interested in reading the ramblings of a war monger. They are just your thoughts and wishes. They dictate nothing to the Star Trek Universe and I highly doubt that anything you wrote will be used. So again wake up you are living in a dream world.


Quote:"Long enough to make an impact in future dealings between the UFP and the RSE. Bad enough that some families who had ancestors who fought and died in the war still had hatred torward the Romulans 100 years later.

Again no specific details are given. They are all very loose general comments. This makes 9 now.


Quote:"Not seeing nukes on board Enterprise does not mean Starfleet won't use them in the war.

They just refitted ENT with all this technology even the soldiers have phase rifles. Something we didn't see until FC. So I find it VERY hard to believe that they are going to phasers etc to "sticks and stones". The technology of ENT is too advanced for its times frame when compared to TOS. It is that simple. Had they bothered to watch TOS they might of seen that. That is why ENT could very easily take place after VOY with a few minor adjustments.


Quote:"Well, it doesn't look like people are getting bored with the arch. The ratings are increasing.

That is some nice spin you are trying to make. But the ratings haven't gone up that much. A few 100K isn't a big jump. Not one episode of Season 3 has hit 5 million. It barely hits 4 million. That is still 1/3 the ratings of the pilot and 1/5 the ratings of TNG in the hey days. Instead of sitting there masturbating to the Romulan war idea you should be thinking that since the ratings went up a bit and B&B aren't writing much this season unlike last season. That means they ARE responisble for the demise of Star Trek from their lousy scripts. So do you really think such shitty talent is going to give you the war story that you so desire? You should hope they never touch the Romulan war because they are going to screw up and then we are going to have to listen to you bitch, piss and moan about how you wish they have done this and that. Putting up endless postings on your take of it. That would make me hope they don't do it.


Quote:"Again, I'll say to you: Sit down, Shut up, and watch the show."

Again I say to you, blow it out your ass war monger.

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RE: It is time to wrap this thing up NOW! | Report this post to moderator
By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:44:22 on Jan 05, 2004 | (4)

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I believe the FG did say "Humans 500 years in the future" in The Expanse, so it could mean humans 500 years in the future went back in time to start the Xindi civil war that destroyed their homeworld. Use your imagination for once!

What FutureGuy told Archer, in The Expanse, is, "The probe was sent by the Xindi. They learned that their world would be destroyed by humans in 400 years". Would be, in 400 years from Archer's time. In The Xindi, it's said that the Xindi homeworld was destroyed 120 years before Archer's arrival. In The Shipment, Gralik tells Archer about how the Xindi's own internal war destroyed their homeworld (without any hint of outsider influence.)

ENT seems to benefit by some fans doing the writers' jobs, filling in gaping story holes -- too often by not noticing what's said/seen on-screen, or by imagining things that don't actually happen.

The Xindi are too stupid to be a serious villain. They strafed Earth without being ready for immediate retaliation. We've seen that Xindi weapons and starship technologies are more advanced than Starfleet's, yet they've failed to swat a mosquito named NX-01 that's making a nuisance of itself on Xindi turf.

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The ratings are increasing.

In an overall negative (minus) direction, yes. The Season Three average is lower than the Season Two average. Out of the first ten episodes this season, the average rating for the second five eps is lower than the average for the first five -- i.e. viewer attrition continues.

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