RE: It is time to wrap this thing up NOW! | Report this post to moderator
By: Brent (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:19:13 on Jan 04, 2004

I, for one, love how this season is unfolding and trying to solve the mysteries as they go along. I'm very interested in finding out what this Expanse is, what the Spheres exactly have to do with it, and have many hopes for other things too. I would love to see them explain the Xindi as something that can't exist without the Expanse, and when (this is almost guarnteed) the Enterprise destroys all of the Spheres in an attempt to be released from the Expanse (we've already heard they probably created it, and that the expanse is impossible to escape), what's going to happen to everything inside. Is it one big special/temporal anomoly created by extradimensional beings for experiments? Who knows? To me, this is the fun of this arc, it's unknown to Star Trek and we're getting to learn about it as we go. Star Trek is about exploration and learning about our universe. Despite the fact that they're giving us lots of sex and action along the way, that exploration is there nonetheless... it's there in the greater storyline of the Expanse and it's inhabitants. I fully suspect that at the end of this season (or whenever) the humans will wipe out the expanse, probably eradication the Xindi. Exerything said by the Xindi's "informants" is true, and no more continunity error. This would be fine by me. It would also be a fine way to explore a possible Prime Directive. Don't take this as a personal insult or anything, becuase it's not meant to be. Star Trek is not some "set in stone" formula for all of time! It should be chaging and evolving. I've been watching since I was a child 20+ years ago and with the execption of most of Voyager, I've enjoyed every version of Star Trek for it's unique attitudes and outlook on humanity and the greater universe. As much as it pains me to say it, I do still trust Berman and Braga to do this write, especially when they've got a really good team of writers, as has been exhibited this season so far. Just... enjoy the ride...

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RE: It is time to wrap this thing up NOW! | Report this post to moderator
By: The TREKMAN!!!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:31:03 on Jan 04, 2004

Scorned, just shut up. You don't know anything about good story telling. Ending the Xindi now will be bad since we're still in the beginning and the ending would be a cop out.

"That maybe true but they have done nothing in providing anything kind of "meaty story" about all of this."

"They keep saying "oh this episode will explain this and that" and then it doesn't."

How would you know? You haven't even seen any of the episodes except for "The Xindi".

"What they have so far have given out already starts to contradict what they are saying. (ie Humans were responsible for the destruction of the Xindi homeworld, then we learn that they Xindi themselves did it to themselves. So what is it already?)"

They are doing it on purpose to make the story more interesting and more complex. Time travel could be involved, you know. I believe the FG did say "Humans 500 years in the future" in The Expanse, so it could mean humans 500 years in the future went back in time to start the Xindi civil war that destroyed their homeworld. Use your imagination for once!

"Instead of having this arc run in very good segments through out the season you are going to get the final 2 episodes of the season dealing with Xindi arc. I think it is safe to assume that they have NO idea how to end this arc. They were lying AGAIN about having the entire season mapped out."

Each episode of this season has contributed to the Xindi arch. How do I know this? I'VE SEEN THE EPISODES!!!!!!

"There are brief mentions of the Romulan wars in TOS but there is NO mention of the Xindi or even a tie in with the war."

BECAUSE THEY WERE BREIF COMMENTS!!!!! THEY COULDN'T GIVE A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF THE ENTIRE WAR, HOW IT STARTED, AND HOW IT ENDED. Spock just needed a short and to the point comment about the Romulan Wars. When you talk about World War II, do you explain in great detail of how in started and what happened during the war? NO! If you want to know how the Xindi ties in to the Romulan Wars, read some of my threads!

"We don't even know how long or how bad this war was."

Long enough to make an impact in future dealings between the UFP and the RSE. Bad enough that some families who had ancestors who fought and died in the war still had hatred torward the Romulans 100 years later.

"We were told in TOS that they fought this faceless enemy with nuclear weapons. Well we know that little continuity was thrown right out the window."

Not seeing nukes on board Enterprise does not mean Starfleet won't use them in the war.

"I would disagree because if this doesn't pick up people are going to get bored very quickly with this."

Well, it doesn't look like people are getting bored with the arch. The ratings are increasing.

Again, I'll say to you:
Sit down, Shut up, and watch the show.

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-Erik Jendresen, writer of Star Trek: The Beginning

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
-General George S. Patton Jr.

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-Scorned as Gage/Gage_2

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RE: It is time to wrap this thing up NOW! | Report this post to moderator
By: Blok_Narpin (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:47:14 on Jan 04, 2004

This show has never violated established Trek continuity, so stop complaining they have. And please don't hit me with that stupid "they have viewscreens" argument because it holds no weight. Don't mention the Ferengi. Archer never learned thier names. It's airtight. Don't mention the Borg. THAT continuity was ruined on the Voyager episode "Dark Frontier", so it anything Enterprise fixed a previous continuity breach.
This show has had excellent continuity.

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