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Yesterday's Enterprise - TNG
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37.74 % (20 votes)
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Year of Hell - VOY
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22.64 % (12 votes)
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All Good Things... -TNG
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20.75 % (11 votes)
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Twilight - ENT
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13.21 % (7 votes)
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Other
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5.66 % (3 votes)
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53 total votes
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OK, I know there are many more "reset button" episodes than this, but they are crap. If I've forgotten any other decent "reset button" episodes I'll either add it to the poll, or you can just vote for other and explain.
The Enterprise finale really should have been a "reset button" episode. In the last 30 seconds of the finale, Zephrame Cochrane should have woken up from a drunken stupor saying, "What a horrible nightmare!" - a la "Newhart". Voyager could probably use a reset itself. At least Voyager sucked in a distant part of the galaxy.
Oh, I voted for "Yesterday's Enterprise". Hands down, no contest, this is what TNG should have looked like. It's depressing at the end of the episode when things go back to the terrible lighting and the happy-go-lucky atmosphere that plagued TNG. "Yesterday's Enterprise" is one of the best moments of Trek and really showed what this show could have been if the producers had shown any guts.
Man, sorry guys. lol. I should have waited to do this poll for when I wasn't at work. *I wish I could edit the poll.* The Visitor is amazing and City on the Edge of Forever. ack. No more making polls in the morning at work. In other words - no more procrastinating. ; ) I can't believe I completely forgot about those two episodes. Sadly, I think my vote would have actually gone to COTEOF.
Edit: I actually wouldn't consider COTEOF a "reset button" episode. In no way is it a reset episode. Time travel episodes are not reset episodes - at least not by nature.
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Yesterday's Enterprise - TNG
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37.74 % (20 votes)
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Year of Hell - VOY
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22.64 % (12 votes)
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All Good Things... -TNG
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20.75 % (11 votes)
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Twilight - ENT
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13.21 % (7 votes)
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Other
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5.66 % (3 votes)
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53 total votes
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OK, I know there are many more "reset button" episodes than this, but they are crap. If I've forgotten any other decent "reset button" episodes I'll either add it to the poll, or you can just vote for other and explain.
The Enterprise finale really should have been a "reset button" episode. In the last 30 seconds of the finale, Zephrame Cochrane should have woken up from a drunken stupor saying, "What a horrible nightmare!" - a la "Newhart". Voyager could probably use a reset itself. At least Voyager sucked in a distant part of the galaxy.
Oh, I voted for "Yesterday's Enterprise". Hands down, no contest, this is what TNG should have looked like. It's depressing at the end of the episode when things go back to the terrible lighting and the happy-go-lucky atmosphere that plagued TNG. "Yesterday's Enterprise" is one of the best moments of Trek and really showed what this show could have been if the producers had shown any guts.
Man, sorry guys. lol. I should have waited to do this poll for when I wasn't at work. *I wish I could edit the poll.* The Visitor is amazing and City on the Edge of Forever. ack. No more making polls in the morning at work. In other words - no more procrastinating. ; ) I can't believe I completely forgot about those two episodes. Sadly, I think my vote would have actually gone to COTEOF.
Edit: I actually wouldn't consider COTEOF a "reset button" episode. In no way is it a reset episode. Time travel episodes are not reset episodes - at least not by nature.
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There once was a man named Scorned,
whose posts were more offensive than porn.
He posted one too many,
got kicked out on his fanny,
and all the while he had been warned.
I wouldn't count either of the TNG eps as 'reset eps'. For one, in both eps, some of the crew members are aware that something happened.
Second, there were rammifications due to the time-distortion(Sela, for example).
It's depressing at the end of the episode when things go back to the terrible lighting and the happy-go-lucky atmosphere that plagued TNG.
"Happy-go-lucky" is what Trek is about! To criticize TNG for being that is to criticize the fundamental aspect of Trek. That's what idealized humans are supposed to be like. Not saying I think it's right or realistic but that's the way GR wanted it to be.
"Yesterday's Enterprise" is one of the best moments of Trek and really showed what this show could have been if the producers had shown any guts.
I agree it's a great ep but what do you mean by this? The Starfleet shown was a more militaristic, war-hungry group of people. That's not what GR wanted nor what Trek stands for. It's not supposed to be BSG.
You forgot "Cause and Effect."
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I agree it's a great ep but what do you mean by this? The Starfleet shown was a more militaristic, war-hungry group of people. That's not what GR wanted nor what Trek stands for. It's not supposed to be BSG.
Maybe not, but TNG went too far in the "all-is-well" department. TOS at least had nice lighting and gave the show some atmosphere. TNG was too sterile. There was absolutely no conflict between the characters. TOS had plenty of conflict between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.
With all due respect to GR, he did lose touch on what made his creation so great. And it happened before TNG. That's not an insult, it can happen to anyone. It happened to Lucas. People sometimes lose perspective on their own work.
Second, there were rammifications due to the time-distortion(Sela, for example).
Well, that only happened because it was written after-the-fact. As a stand-alone episode, "Yesterday's Enterprise" is a "reset". And really, I'm not that picky on what I call a "reset button" episode. If by the end of the episode everything goes back to normal, it's a reset. Just because one or two people may be aware of something doesn't change that it's a reset.
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There once was a man named Scorned,
whose posts were more offensive than porn.
He posted one too many,
got kicked out on his fanny,
and all the while he had been warned.
Every "Reset Episode" has to at least have something change, if not it would be pointless. It's the episodes that do it in a cool subtle way that I think are the best. I'd throw in Voyagers Timeless!!
City on the Edge of Forever and The Visitor.
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The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on
my skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their
breath and disappeared, my heart went cold, and
only hollow rhythms resounded from within.
Quadrivium -- the Family of Battlestar Galactica
I would have liked to see "The Visitor" on the list. That was a good reset episode, even if Sisco remembered what had happened.
It was a close call between "Twilight" and "Year of Hell" for me, but I went with "Twilight". I think I chose that episode becuase It's still fresh in my mind, and I had alot of fun watching the episode.
I've never really thought of "All Good Things..." as a true time travel story because Q seemed to be controling things.
I would have chosen Yesterday's Enterprise, but I can't take that episode on its own anymore becuase of Sela.
From TNG it has to be "TAPESTRY" ... the one where Q lets Picard relive
his early career just after graduation to show him how important his
early decisions were in his life ... how they made him the man he
turned out to be.
From TOS: "THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER." Nuff said.
I don't know if I'd count City on the Edge of Forever as a reset episode... I mean, what is reset? The fact that the Enterprise is no longer in orbit? Kirk allowing Edith to die, that didn't get undone. It was done hundreds of years in the past, but that woman died because of Kirk, and he will have to continue to live with that.
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... but that woman died because of Kirk, and he will have to continue to live with that.
Edith Keeler had to die. Otherwise, millions would have died who wouldn't have originally. The episode pointed this out.
Guardian: "All is as it was before."
Kirk has to live with many painful decisions that he had to make.
As do all of us.
To me, a "reset button" is not where the episode puts things back the way they were supposed to be.
A reset button is where the producers or writers have put themselves in a corner storywise or characterwise. They then do something totally off the wall to get themselves out of the hole they found themselves in.
RE: how many shuttles did Voyager have originally, and how many were lost in the Delta quadrant?
I have always felt that the best "reset" episodes are those that end with self-sacrifice in some way. Those episodes are a way for us to see one of the crew step of the plate and become a true hero, sacrificing themselves for others or in promotion of one of their core beliefs.
And we get them back in the next episode!
Just had a thought...I can only imagine the backlash if Voyager's "End Game" would have eneded up being a reset (within itself - not the series...I loved the series).
Timeless should have been on there. . . . I think YOH and YE are what reset episodes should aspire to.
"City on the Edge of Forever" was the absolute greatest! Edith was a great main character who was not evil but in fact a saint, but died. One of the most moving "reset" shows of alltime, IMHO.
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--Dr. Leonard McCoy
"I'm a politician, which means I am a cheat and a liar, and when I am not kissing babies I am stealing their lollipops."
-- Jeffrey Pelt, The Hunt for Red October
"Liberals, Intellectuals, Peacemongers, IDIOTS!!!!"
- General Decker, Mars Attacks
"It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires, both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid."
- Q from Q Who
Oh boy... AGAIN with the shuttles/torpedoes count. If the crew of Voyager can build three Delta Fliers, they can certainly build a few dumb old shuttles.
Dude, it was just a question.
My vote went for Year of Hell. City on the Edge of Forever is a fantastic episode, but I don't count it as a reset episode.
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"Time is a face on the water."
-Stephen King, The Dark Tower Series-
I liked Timeless- if for no other reason, the CG Galaxy-class starship (which only made brief appearances in DS9 Dominion War scenes.)
And the excellent scene shots of the Flyer being followed by Voyager in one timeline & being chased by the Challenger in the other (even though the star field behind Geordi showed no movement.)
Twilight was a close second because it's so sad... even though it's obvious the reset button will be pushed.
Year of Hell I didn't like (TWO-parter for a reset??) And its reset button seemed a little far-fetched... as reset buttons go..
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In the battle between "good" and "evil," "evil" usually wins, unless "good" is very, very careful."
Dr. Leonard McCoy.
This is why they hate us.
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The autumn days swung soft around me, like cotton on
my skin. But as the embers of the summer lost their
breath and disappeared, my heart went cold, and
only hollow rhythms resounded from within.
Quadrivium -- the Family of Battlestar Galactica
I vote cause and effect
I love Year of hell probably my favorite Voyager episode period aside from Vis a Vis but thats for different reasons
three delta flyers??
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