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Original message modified Jul 20, 2004 @ 05:15:
Topic: Flawed premise from the beginning
When I watch Enterprise, I never feel like I'm keeping up on what's going on in the Star Trek universe. Enterprise is "all in the past" and doesn't hold the interest for me. For me, the ST uiverse is now post-Nemisis. Whatever happens in Enterprise will have absolutely NOTHING to do with the universe of Star Trek.

Voyager also had this problem, for me. I felt like whatever they did wouldn't have any influence on the ST universe. When I realized they may find their way home, it got more interesting because the events would then become part of the canon of ST beyond losing a ship in the Delta quadrant.

With Enterprise taking place so far 'in the past' leaves little for me to be interested in.

Is Enterprise picking up any new ST fans?

TNG, DS9, and Voyager just seemed larger than life to me and I continue to read the books (those in the TNG timeline). Enterprise is like blip on the radar screen. Perhaps it's interesting for a quick peek, but the worls it lives in just seems so small and too similar to our world right now with terrorism and war.

Things could have been done so differently with Enterprise to make it more interesting but I think the premise is flawed anyhow.

If they wanted to start a new franchise, they should follow Riker as captain of the Titan or something in the current timeline of Star Trek, or even be bold and go farther in the future (but it would have made the movies based on TNG less interesting).

If the movies truly are finished with the TNG timeline, it's time to get bold and daring.

Someone mentioned doing New Frontiers tv-movies. That would be very interesting. This could also give them the ability to hand over the reins to a new producer to experiment with the look and feel of Star Trek, particularly one who knows nothing about Star Trek.

There are so many great stories in Star Trek fiction that it's much more compelling than Enterprise.

Message modified Jul 20, 2004 @ 05:19:
Topic: Flawed premise from the beginning
When I watch Enterprise, I never feel like I'm keeping up on what's going on in the Star Trek universe. Enterprise is "all in the past" and doesn't hold the interest for me. For me, the ST uiverse is now post-Nemesis. Whatever happens in Enterprise will have absolutely NOTHING to do with the universe of Star Trek.

Voyager also had this problem, for me. I felt like whatever they did wouldn't have any influence on the ST universe. When I realized they may find their way home, it got more interesting because the events would then become part of the canon of ST beyond losing a ship in the Delta quadrant.

With Enterprise taking place so far 'in the past' leaves little for me to be interested in.

Is Enterprise picking up any new ST fans?

TNG, DS9, and Voyager just seemed larger than life to me and I continue to read the books (those in the TNG timeline). Enterprise is like blip on the radar screen. Perhaps it's interesting for a quick peek, but the worls it lives in just seems so small and too similar to our world right now with terrorism and war.

Things could have been done so differently with Enterprise to make it more interesting but I think the premise is flawed anyhow.

If they wanted to start a new franchise, they should follow Riker as captain of the Titan or something in the current timeline of Star Trek, or even be bold and go farther in the future (but it would have made the movies based on TNG less interesting).

If the movies truly are finished with the TNG timeline, it's time to get bold and daring.

Someone mentioned doing New Frontiers tv-movies. That would be very interesting. This could also give them the ability to hand over the reins to a new producer to experiment with the look and feel of Star Trek, particularly one who knows nothing about Star Trek.

There are so many great stories in Star Trek fiction that it's much more compelling than Enterprise.

Message modified Jul 20, 2004 @ 05:22:
Topic: Flawed premise from the beginning
When I watch Enterprise, I never feel like I'm keeping up on what's going on in the Star Trek universe. Enterprise is "all in the past" and doesn't hold the interest for me. For me, the ST uiverse is now post-Nemesis. Whatever happens in Enterprise will have absolutely NOTHING to do with the universe of Star Trek.

Voyager also had this problem, for me. I felt like whatever they did wouldn't have any influence on the ST universe. When I realized they may find their way home, it got more interesting because the events would then become part of the canon of ST beyond losing a ship in the Delta quadrant.

With Enterprise taking place so far 'in the past' leaves little for me to be interested in.

Is Enterprise picking up any new ST fans?

TNG, DS9, and Voyager just seemed larger than life to me and I continue to read the books (those in the TNG timeline). Enterprise is like blip on the radar screen. Perhaps it's interesting for a quick peek, but the worls it lives in just seems so small and too similar to our world right now with terrorism and war.

Things could have been done so differently with Enterprise to make it more interesting but I think the premise is flawed anyhow.

If they wanted to start a new franchise, they should follow Riker as captain of the Titan or something in the current timeline of Star Trek, or even be bold and go farther in the future (but it would have made the movies based on TNG less interesting).

If the movies truly are finished with the TNG timeline, it's time to get bold and daring.

Someone mentioned doing New Frontiers tv-movies. That would be very interesting. This could also give them the ability to hand over the reins to a new producer to experiment with the look and feel of Star Trek, particularly one who knows nothing about Star Trek.

Star Trek fiction is much more compelling than Enterprise, unfortunately, but thankfully so!

Message modified Jul 20, 2004 @ 05:23:
Topic: Flawed premise from the beginning
When I watch Enterprise, I never feel like I'm keeping up on what's going on in the Star Trek universe. Enterprise is "all in the past" and doesn't hold the interest for me. For me, the ST uiverse is now post-Nemesis. Whatever happens in Enterprise will have absolutely NOTHING to do with the universe of Star Trek.

Voyager also had this problem, for me. I felt like whatever they did wouldn't have any influence on the ST universe. When I realized they may find their way home, it got more interesting because the events would then become part of the canon of ST beyond losing a ship in the Delta quadrant.

With Enterprise taking place so far 'in the past' leaves little for me to be interested in.

Is Enterprise picking up any new ST fans?

TNG, DS9, and Voyager just seemed larger than life to me and I continue to read the books (those in the TNG timeline). Enterprise is like blip on the radar screen. Perhaps it's interesting for a quick peek, but the worls it lives in just seems so small and too similar to our world right now with terrorism and war.

Things could have been done so differently with Enterprise to make it more interesting but I think the premise is flawed anyhow.

If they wanted to start a new franchise, they should follow Riker as captain of the Titan or something in the current timeline of Star Trek, or even be bold and go farther in the future (but it would have made the movies based on TNG less interesting).

If the movies truly are finished with the TNG timeline, it's time to get bold and daring.

Someone mentioned doing New Frontiers tv-movies. That would be very interesting. This could also give them the ability to hand over the reins to a new producer to experiment with the look and feel of Star Trek, particularly one who knows nothing about Star Trek.

Star Trek fiction is much more compelling than Enterprise, unfortunately, but thankfully so!

Cymrose said:

There's that, plus the fact that DS9, VOY and ENT alienated a big chunk of the audience by being developed on a different premise to what Star Trek was originally about. Even though Voyager is called TNG-lite, it lost those things that made it recognisably Star Trek. It wasn't on the enterprise, it was no longer about exploration, and rather than use the humanity themed formula of TNG and TOS, went with "random space adventure" stories, which rarely produced anything good. Same problem with Enterprise before B&B tried turning it into another DS9.

DS9..quality show with character development and a long story arc...TOS and TNG didn't focus on these things, and ultimately, DS9 lost viewership because space wars are boring compared to stories about omnipitent beings consumed by guilt for destroying an entire species, or two people who hate eachother because their skin is black on differet sides.


I completely agree!!