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Marina Sirtis Feels Deep Space Nine, Voyager and Enterprise Lacked Gene Roddenberry's Humanity

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By GustavoLeao / 01:21, 27 May 2012 / Star Trek: Nemesis

TrekMovie.com posted a detailed report of TNG stars Marina Sirtis, Michael Dorn and LeVar Burton appearance at the this weekend Phoenix ComicCon and here are an excerpt of Marina's report :

  • Sirtis feels the post Roddenberry shows (DS9, Voyager, Enterprise) "lacked Gene’s humanity"…calls DS9 "third best sci-fi show on at the time" (behind TNG, Babylon 5)
  • Sirtis turned down a role in Men in Black (1997) because she didn’t want to do more sci-fi at the time


The full report and photos are here



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RE: Letting loose! | Report this post to moderator
By: Dalio (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:33:35 on May 29, 2012

What can I say, I am a bit childish.

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By: ZOD (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:18:27 on May 29, 2012 | Edit History (1)

If we want these people to happily answer inane question about acting jobs they had more than a decade ago we need to stop getting all pissy when they don't answer "correctly".


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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:36:24 on May 28, 2012

There's nothing more predictable then Star Trek fans who haven't worked a day as an actor in their life, trashing an actor for being 100% honest about the franchise that THEY actually worked in.

Marina is entitled to her opinion and if you don't agree because of your opinion which was formed while sitting in a recliner in front of a TV? So be it! Let it go already.

By the way, I doubt 99% of your wives will look half as good as she does when they're 57 years old -- if they aren't there already.

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RE: Oh lord... by garak8888 @ 22:43:19 on May 28
RE: Oh lord... by StillKirok @ 20:26:52 on May 28
    RE: Oh lord... by The Magrathean @ 22:26:47 on May 28
       RE: Oh lord... by StillKirok @ 23:43:36 on May 28

SFDebris Nailed it... | Report this post to moderator
By: FSJGuy (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:35:34 on May 28, 2012

With his review of In the Pale Moonlight and the follow up video especially http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/d543.asp


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RE: SFDebris Nailed it... by Terry212 @ 16:44:48 on May 28
    RE: SFDebris Nailed it... by Dalio @ 00:15:30 on May 31

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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 02:54:04 on May 28, 2012

Look, she's an actor and she expressed her opinion. I think the backlash here is a little much, especially the comments about her looks.

I disagree with her, but let's not get all 2nd grader on the lady, OK?


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RE: Easy Fellas by Captain Jeff @ 15:35:46 on May 28

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By: Dalio (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:08:48 on May 27, 2012

Wow, I would never have imagined Marina letting herself go. She used to be pretty hot back in the day. But now my wife is smaller and sexier than she is.

See how easy it is to pick on people? Thats exactly what she was doing to DS9 cast members.... Just in another way.


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RE: Letting loose! by IamKirok!!! @ 11:14:53 on May 29
RE: Letting loose! by Picard-Riker '12 @ 01:52:46 on May 28

Marina, Marina, Marina | Report this post to moderator
By: garak8888 (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:06:34 on May 27, 2012

Isn't she adorable?

I'm not sure why she felt the need to trash the other Star Treks. I'm sure there are a lot of TOS actors who feel the same way about TNG... I'm sure there are some DS9 actors who feel that way about TNG too. Generally they keep their opinions to themselves. But, instead of going on a rant about how useless Troi was on TNG, I'll just comment on one of the things that she said.

One of the biggest surprises I had a few years ago while introducing my wife to Star Trek was how overly serious TNG was compared to DS9. It's totally counter intuitive, and if you would have asked me before I would have said of course DS9 was more serious. But I realized that darker doesn't necessarily mean more serious.

I watched a lot of DS9 in marathon form, then switched to TNG, and the first thing that struck me was that almost every episode of TNG had some sort of major disaster that was going to destroy the Enterprise or kill millions of people in pretty much every episode. Even on relatively silly episodes with strong B character stories; inevitably the A story was about some scientist creating some strange wave that was going to destroy a planet or the Enterprise was going to be blown up by Ferengi saboteurs. Even the ridiculous "Qpid," which was written as a comedy for TNG, had to up the stakes by having Q threaten to kill Vash if they didn't pay his game. In contrast, while DS9 has some notably dark episodes like "In the Pale Moonlight," (and the sixth season is notably dark in general because it is the heaviest dose of the Dominionn War and the Federation is losing) there are plenty of episodes which are simply character episodes with no contrived sense of imminent doom.

In fact it was jarring how different it was. I think to a certain extent it actually enhanced the episodes that were dark or intense on DS9, giving an exaggerated sense of "seriousness." Because there was a definite contrast between an episode like "His Way" where there was no threat to the station, Bajor, or millions. Instead it is a simple character story about Odo and Kira that introduces a new side character, Vic Fontaine. What's shocking about that line up is it is the episode immediately following "In the Pale Moonlight." The contrast is stark.

And it occurred to me that if "His Way" had been a TNG episode it would have ended up in some sort of holodeck malfunction that threatens the station unless Odo and Kira somehow disarm the malfunctioning Vic. Instead the tension is entirely character based, is a little bit more fun, and nobody's life is directly threatened.

Of course there are times when DS9 upped the ante just for the sake of it as well with usually tepid results, but DS9 I think was a departure in philosophy from TNG. Comedic episodes and character episodes were allowed to be just that.

Because of that I now look at TNG as probably the most serious of all the Star Trek series. I think DS9 was much more like TOS in that regard.


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RE: Marina, Marina, Marina by Muldfeld @ 06:41:17 on May 28

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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:17:05 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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RE: False by StillKirok @ 00:05:03 on May 28
RE: False by GreginWA @ 05:19:39 on May 27
    RE: False by Dalio @ 15:57:19 on May 27
       RE: False by Muldfeld @ 19:28:06 on May 28
          RE: False by The Magrathean @ 22:22:52 on May 28

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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:42 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:42 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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There once was a man named Scorned,

whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:39 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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There once was a man named Scorned,

whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:14 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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There once was a man named Scorned,

whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:14 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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There once was a man named Scorned,

whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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By: captainkoloth (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:16:14 on May 27, 2012

That is such a typical critique of DS9 and one that is not supported by evidence. Humanity is much more than replicators, holodecks and technobabble, things that were mostly peripheral in DS9.

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There once was a man named Scorned,

whose posts were more offensive than porn.

He posted one too many,

got kicked out on his fanny,

and all the while he had been warned.


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Uh... | Report this post to moderator
By: Spaceball One (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:57:10 on May 27, 2012

yeah... I'll grant Voyager and Enterprise, but DS9 was a far more "human" drama than TNG ever was.

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RE: Uh... by Vash_066 @ 03:25:34 on May 28

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By: Donner (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 01:40:28 on May 27, 2012

Marina, I love you very much, but kindly shut the fuck up about DS9.

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