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they are no less on display now than they ever were
Oh, I don't know. I remember reading an interview in Starlog during the lead up to ST:V when he claimed that all the previous movies were flawed, and that directing wouldn't be that different than working with the cast in the past because he's been "directing them for years".
This? This is nothing. This is a Bill quirk. Granddad's being stubborn; he doesn't want to see "that damn movie," I can hear him mutter. But as we say on earth, "C'est la vie."
Some of the comments below are nothing but pithy anti-Shatnerism. These guys have breathed life into their roles longer than we've breathed air. After all their triumphs and malaise, they must appreciate Star Trek the way we appreciate our living room lamp: helpful as long as it works.
So, in Shatner's mind, I'm sure not seeing this movie is a slight on par with Paris Hilton sassing this week's loser on her reality show. It's as harmless as it is hammy, even if the "loser" looks classier by comparison.
When you consider all the crap he takes from certain people on these boards I can't say I blame him.
Paramount or JJ should have invited him to a private screening on the Paramount lot or at least sent him a screener.
A pointless comment; but at least he didn't say how much he would (still) really really really like to be in that film ... even if written in for the DVD release.:) .... as long as it was a meaningful moment.
Shatner's rationale makes sense - though he couched it in a joke. Anyone who is a recognizable face finds it difficult to attend such mundane things as movies.
Likely his only window of opportunity would have been the premiere and he probably would have upstaged Pine (intentionally or not).
Would it have killed Paramount to send the guy an advance DVD?
Al
Um, look in this thread alone. A lot of anti-Shatner dickheads.
I could care less if Shatner does or doesn't want to see the movie, its his right to pass if that's what he wants to do. I just wish he'd be a little more honest and forthcoming with his fans and himself. If he's tired of Trek or can't bear the thought of someone else playing the part, or simply doesn't care anymore, then just say so. I'd respect that kind of honesty. But don't sit there and insult our intelligence.
Shatner's excuse sounds about as plausible as the flimsy reasons he's given for why he agreed to have Kirk killed off in Generations. Abrams had plenty of screenings, including several the same week as Shatner's Charity horse show that he and other cast members attended; too bad Shatner couldn't be bothered to return the favor. Even if he couldn't make any of those dates, I'm sure a private viewing could have been arranged if he'd just asked.
After his infamous quote about not ever having seen a single episode of TNG (even after agreeing to appear in a TNG movie) I'm more convinced than ever that the reason Shatner hasn't seen the new movie is because he is not the center of attention and thus has nothing to gain from doing so.
Oh well, I guess this is just more evidence that Shatner is the greatest actor ever: after all, how else could such a shallow, petty, egotistical man create one of televisions most memorable, beloved and enduring characters.
What a great picture. It's good to see those two together, anytime!
In terms of Shatner's excuse...I'm not sure I really buy it. Is it really that likely that someone's going to stand up and yell, "Hah, hah!" like Nelson on The Simpsons?
It's far more likely that fans would come up to him and shake his hand.
Even if Shatner really didn't want to be seen in public that way, I'm sure he could pick up the phone, call J.J., and have a private screening on the Paramount lot, if that's what he wanted.
... if he wants to and in good quality. I suspect he has a very good visual system.
I did not see the movie either because I was too busy to get to it before it got pulled in my area. IT IS NOT A CRIME TO HAVE MISSED IT.
The trolls should shut up because Shatner has contributed more to Trek than they ever will.
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Because guys like Denny Crane can't get a DVD copy sent to his home gratis. Lots of VIP types get that kind of consideration. Pfft...still like him, just think his excuses are weak.
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"I do care, but here is the problem. If I go to the theater, it's like, ‘there is the guy who thinks he is captain Kirk' or something like that. Some ridicule is going to happen. So I have sort of avoided that." Shatner said.
Really, Billy-boy? You can go on national television and act like a complete horse's ass, but you refuse to go see a movie because you're afraid people might make fun of you? Seriously?
*shakes head in disbelief*
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"I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it."- Klaatu, The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951)
That's what premieres are for, Bill.
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"I would be happy for Star Trek to come along decades later with a new group of minds. I'd love someone to say, 'Besides this one, Gene Roddenberry's was nothing!'" - Gene Roddenberry
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