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Orci and  Kurtzman on Next Generation Timeline and Future of Star Trek Franchise

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By GustavoLeao / 10:44, 28 June 2009 / Star Trek: Nemesis

WizardUniverse posted a new interview with Star Trek writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman and here are few excerpts.

This movie had a strong sense of excitement throughout the film that's been missing from "Star Trek" for a long time. How did you infuse that into the storyline?

ORCI: The tricky part regarding an origin story with characters you know and love is how are you going to have that kind of excitement if you already know what happens to them? When we came up with the idea of having Leonard Nimoy come back and have this story be something that changes history to such a degree that now the future is not written. That was the biggest thing we came up with that would allow us to have not only the freedom but also up the dramatic stakes to take the audience on a ride where you wouldn't know what was going to happen to them.

KURTZMAN: I think this movie was also inspired by the first half of the Richard Donner "Superman" movie. All of the adventure movies that we grew up with had such an enormous sense of epic adventure against the backdrop of very personal storytelling. All of them, "Star Wars," "Superman," "Star Trek"... any of those movies were always so big and anamorphic, and yet the stories were so relatable. It felt to us that it had been a very, very long time since we had seen a space epic that really did that. I think for us it was also a weird chance to reclaim our childhood.

ORCI: You actually care about the characters and that's why it's exciting.

Why did you choose to use the Romulans as the villains when they didn't work the last time out?

ORCI: [Laughs] When we came upon the idea of Leonard Nimoy, we wanted to pick up where he left off in "Star Trek," which was in the "Next Generation." In those stories, he was the ambassador to Romulus, so we wanted to keep continuity with what that was, that's why we brought them in.

KURTZMAN: And it's funny because some people have said, "Wow, you've broken continuity by having this encounter." That's not exactly true. Yes, we meet Romulans early, but we meet Romulans early because one of them comes back in time. It just changed everything right there.

What part did you play in the IDW comic prequel, Star Trek Countdown?

KURTZMAN: We produced it and generated the story. We came up with the idea of it being a countdown to the movie. And we got [Tim Jones and Mike Johnson] to work with us to write it and we all came up with the story together.

I really liked the idea that the Romulan ship was enhanced with Borg tech and I was hoping for some kind of reference to that in the movie.

ORCI: We did the "Countdown" comic after we finished the movie. So it was very difficult to do that.

When you originally came up with the story, what was your explanation for why the ship was so advanced?

ORCI: That it was from the future.

KURTZMAN: They had advanced their technology. And it's not only from the future but it's a very industrial ship designed for massive mining.

How does Kirk differ as a result of this new timeline?

KURTZMAN: Because of the events of the opening of the movie, there's a very fundamental difference. Kirk ends up growing up without a father and so he doesn't have that grounding. He's much more of a reckless wildcard and yet he has all of the same instincts of the Kirk that we know and love. We say that he is the same Kirk in soul it's just that the experiences in his life have shaped him...

ORCI: And the route to get him there. You know, one of the differences is that he gets to the academy later because he defers college. Yet ironically, he becomes Captain sooner.

Do you think this altered timeline precludes any other visits to the "Next Generation" era, given how the timeline has changed?

ORCI: I don't think so. If you saw the end of "Countdown," you know the Next Generation era is continuing on. Their universe is fully intact.

What direction would you like to see the franchise go in the future?

ORCI: We've said it before and we mean it, we want to see how fans react first. Because we are fans and fans have sort of been our consultants on our shoulders just by reading their reactions as we've been developing the movie. I'd love to see it become even more sci-fi than you can do when you're introducing something, because sci-fi can be distancing. I'd love to continue doing what we're doing.

KURTZMAN: I'd like to keep it emotional, if we're lucky enough to make more movies. One of the things that we were proud of is that everything came from an emotional big bang from the characters; which buys you the sci-fi.

ORCI: And we want to give that to all the characters. It's tricky. It's not just a single lead kind of thing; it's a family that you have to portray.

The full interview is here.



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By: USShawk (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:39:20 on Jun 28, 2009

Let's face it, these guys took a tired franchise and made into something that can live on proudly. It takes guts and vision to do what they did, and it paid off amazingly. Not just in terms in money, but in a whole new set of fans that look forward to the stories going on.

For those who don't have the vision to move forward, well there's not much that can be said for you. You think there can be further adventures with 78 year old Shatner and Nimoy, deceased Kelley and Doohan, and a bitter Koenig? They had their moments, and the TNG era had nowhere else to go, not in terms of stories, in terms of longevity. They did live it out well in the Countdown comic.

I just got back from seeing Transformers 2. An unbearably long movie with about 30 minutes of plot, 90 minutes of fighting and explosions, and 15 minutes of nonsensical necessities. I enjoyed it. It was exciting, cool, silly, funny, and completely incoherent. If anyone watched the credits to the end, please tell me if I missed anything... I couldn't sit through it.

If the next movie is done right it will make $400 million domestically. Word of mouth from new fans, and the DVD are going to create alot more fans. That's exactly what happened with the Batman franchise (not just Heath Ledger's death).


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By: c.p. (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:08:21 on Jun 28, 2009

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It's pretty gutless. Based on every time travel adventure, the prime universe is gone. He should have the guts to either say that, or in the next movie flat out say that this is a different universe.

What would this accomplish beyond satisfying a few temporal mechanics-hawks? I know the new popular thing is to never waste an opportunity to find a crack in the armor of the new regime. But gutless? They destroyed Vulcan, dude. That was the announcement you're looking for.


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By: VoR (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:05:17 on Jun 28, 2009

I'd love a new sci-fi story for the next one, but the comment regarding keeping the story emotional is spot-on. The opening of Star Trek was jaw-dropping and profoundly sad... I've seen the movie three times, and each time I went, I heard people openly weeping as George Kirk is talking to his wife, knowing that he won't survive much longer....
Once that scene was over and the big main title with stirring score is on screen, the audience is prepared for a hell of a ride, and it bought the film a great deal of good will. Focusing on that aspect of any new story will be the key to a success, me thinks... =)

VoR

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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:00:24 on Jun 28, 2009

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If you saw the end of "Countdown," you know the Next Generation era is continuing on. Their universe is fully intact...

...as one of an infinite number of possible universes that exist at any one time, given how events in past history unfold -- i.e. had Nero not appeared in 2233 and changed the timeline. I hate when the writers say things like this for fear of fan repercussion because as long as we stay in the new universe? Most, if not all of the charatcers we know in the 24th century will likely never be born. So in terms of comics, novels and fan films they can live on sure.. but as long as the franchise is in the new universe? C'est la vie.

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