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More Detailed Description of Star Trek Scenes Show in New York - Major Spoilers

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By GustavoLeao / 03:08, 18 November 2008 / Feature Films

ComingSoon.net posted a more detailed description of J.J. Abrams presentation of the four Star Trek movie scenes show in New York yesterday. These were the same footage show in Europe last week, but described here in more detail. Here is an excerpt from their articlew with a description of scenes 2 and 3. (beware of major spoilers)

Scene 2 - Kirk Stows Away and Saves the Day

Abrams quickly set up the next scene, saying that it was three years later and Kirk was still getting into so much trouble that he hadn't become an officer. When there's an emergency on the planet Vulcan, all the Starfleet cadets are assigned to starships except for Kirk, but apparently, there is a stipulation where doctors can bring patients with them when they're assigned to a ship, so Kirk's good friend "Bones" McCoy hatches a plan to inject Kirk with a virus to get him on board the brand new starship, the U.S.S. Enterprise.

The scene opens with Kirk and "Bones" McCoy (Karl Urban, who looks shockingly like DeForrest Kelley with his trademark hair) as McCoy carries Kirk into the medical bay and injects Kirk with the virus as Abrams described and he starts to react to it. We then cut to the command deck of the Enterprise with Captain Pike at the helm, and this is our first glimpse of John Cho's Sulu and Anton Yelchin as Pavel Chekov, the ship's navigator and communications officer. Even though Yelchin actually comes from a Russian lineage, his accent was the only thing that really seemed jarringly false in his scenes. It's used to somewhat comic effect as Chekov tries to speak the coordinates into the ship's computer but his inability to say the word "Vulcan" (pronounced "Wulcan") makes it difficult. Chekov communicates to the rest of the ship that they'll be warping to the Vulcan region in three seconds to investigate a "lightning storm." As Kirk awakes in the sick bay and hears Chekov's announcement, he realizes something is wrong, because he has experienced a similar event on earth years earlier; this isn't a natural disaster but it has the makings of a Romulan attack. We cut down to Vulcan where an enormous needle-like construct is hovering above the planet shooting fire towards the ground as a Vulcan woman watches horrified in the foreground, and we get a brief glimpse of Eric Bana as Romulan leader Nero.

As a side effect of Bones' injection, Kirk's hands have ballooned up to pudgy mittens which makes it difficult as he frantically tries to type a warning message to stop the ship from warping to Vulcan. Desperate, the still ailing Kirk starts running through the ship before finding Uhura, who is surprised to see him, and he drags her to the command deck where he confronts Pike and his second-in-command, Zachary Quinto's Commander Spock, neither of them happy about Kirk sneaking onto the ship. He tells them that they're heading for a trap as the Romulans have attacked Vulcan, much like they've done in the past, when they destroyed the U.S.S. Kelvin, Pike's prior ship, at the edge of Klingon space, as well as a number of Klingon warbirds. Obviously, these Romulans are a dangerous adversary not to be trifled with. They use Uhura's previously mentioned skills--she speaks three dialects of Romulan--to try and discover the truth about what is happening on Vulcan and that seems to be enough to convince them. "The cadet's analysis is sound," Spock decides pompously, giving us a glimpse of the tenuous relationship between Kirk and Spock, which Abrams will confirm shortly after. The two of them just don't get along at all. The Enterprise bursts out of the warp to an enormous fleet of battle ships that looks like something out of the "Star Wars" saga, showing Abrams' clear love of the other major SF film franchise.

This was a great sequence to introduce us to the younger crew on the maiden voyage of the U.S.S. Enterprise, plus we got to see a lot of the inner workings of this brand new Enterprise, as well as the roles and relationships of some of the ship's crew.

Scene 3 - Old Friends

Abrams set up the third scene by explaining how Spock had been made acting Captain of the Enterprise and because he didn't like Kirk, he's been jettisoned from the ship to Vulcan where he encounters a familiar face, the older Spock, played of course by Leonard Nimoy. Abrams shared an anecdote about going up to Nimoy on the first day of shooting about to give him notes on his performance before stopping himself realizing that it was Leonard Nimoy. In turn, Nimoy was pleasant about it and insisted on getting Abrams' thoughts on playing the scene.

This sequence will definitely prove to be the most intriguing one for diehard Trek fans, not only because we see Nimoy as Spock for the first time since Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country over fifteen years ago, but also because it gets into the history of the technology of "Trek," specifically the invention of Trans Warp technology, the classic Trek teleporters that beamed the Enterprise crew to and from planets the ship was orbiting. It also establishes that the movie does take place in regular "Trek" continuity, taking place before the original "Star Trek" television series and referring to events from both the show and the movies.

We see Nimoy as Spock (a sight for sore eyes) and the young Kirk walking through a remote outpost behind a short Yoda-like alien until they reach Simon Pegg sitting at a console. It's the one and only Montgomery Scott or "Scotty" who has been exiled to that location after an experiment gone wrong. They talk to him about the Trans Warp theories he'd been working on that would allow one to transmit a person or object to an orbiting spaceship, but Scotty admits his experiments hadn't gone well after he teleported the Admiral's pet beagle to who knows where. This scene gives a good idea of the humor that Pegg will be bringing to the character, even when sporting a heavy Scottish accent. Spock convinces Scotty that his theories will eventually lead to the invention of teleporters, and they need to use that technology to beam Kirk back up to the ship. The general idea is that Kirk needs to get back to the ship to prevent the younger Spock from making a potentially fatal mistake while running the ship by losing control of his emotions. This exchange seems to hint that the emotionless Spock we've come to know over the years might have been far more emotional when put under the stressful position of captaining the Enterprise, but might have mellowed after the incidents shown in this movie. Kirk argues with the older Spock about him going back up to the ship with them but Spock says that it's not his destiny, and when Kirk suggests that Spock going back in time to help him is "cheating," Spock says he learned that from an old friend (the older Kirk obviously who would always use time travel to fix problems.) As Spock and Scotty teleport away, older Spock puts up the trademark "V" sign and says "Live Long and Prosper" and any Trekker in the audience probably creamed their pants at that point in the presentation.

For a description of scenes 1 and 4, plus an analysis of the 25 minutes of footage show, go to ComingSoon.net



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By: Kirk Archer (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:52:35 on Nov 18, 2008

I am concerned about what seems to be an overly-emotional Spock character. Yes Vulcans have emotions, but through years of training they've been taught to control and contain them. Over the course of the original series we've seen Spock "lose it" a few times, but those instances were far and few between. I'm also concerned about the description of a "horrified" Vulcan woman on the planet below. Again emotional Vulcans.

I'm not a continuity pornographer and can allow lots of minor details to slide, just as the TV series have done. But when it goes way overboard to Scotty inventing transporters and similar glaring issues then I do have a problem.

Secondly, I have my doubts about the Kirk typing scene. Aren't the computers of this age voice activated? I remember the humerous scene in Star Trek IV where Scotty tried talking to a keyboard. "How quaint!" was his response.

Writers need to understand we are 300 years into the future and when they make decisions like this it pulls me out of the reality, just like Uhura using books to talk Klingon in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" ruined it for me.

I'm not one of the haters that comes on to slam everything JJ and company are doing. I'm hoping this movie is a success because if it isn't we've lost any chance for Star Trek to exist on the big screen ever again. So I will be there on opening day with my fingers crossed.


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Emotional Spock in The Cage by GustavoLeao @ 14:25:43 on Nov 18
    RE: Emotional Spock in The Cage by Admiral_Bumblebee @ 04:13:06 on Nov 19
       RE: Emotional Spock in The Cage by GustavoLeao @ 22:58:55 on Nov 19

Don't worry about these descriptions, the author doesn't know Trek wel | Report this post to moderator
By: Jim M (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:08:17 on Nov 18, 2008

The author of this report doesn't know a lot about Star Trek, so I think it's important to keep this in mind and not get too concerned with continuity issues, particularly as it relates to Scotty inventing transporter technology. I think the author may be misunderstanding and misinterpreting some of the scenes, especially since has not seen the entire movie. His repeated use of the term "Trans Warp" is a big red flag to me that he may not have understood exactly what was taking place in the scenes.

The movie may, in fact, contradict established continuity, but until we know more or see it ourselves, there's no point in getting "upset" about it.

Obviously, the movie needs to be understood by fans and non-fans alike, but I think it's just an issue of him not communicating the descriptions properly. Besides, even if there are continuity violations, that doesn't mean it can't turn out to be a great film.


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Hmmmmm | Report this post to moderator
By: Beamer (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:03:54 on Nov 18, 2008

I have been a big fan of this thing all along. That said....(you can feel it coming, can't you?)...

But if the movie establishes that it's Scotty who invents the transporter, that will be in the front of my mind for the rest of the film and hard to get my focus back. It's a little hard to believe that Orci would let that one pass. Not a deal breaker, but surprising, nonetheless.

An alternate view would be that the whole "transwarp" discussion is about a variation of transporter Scotty is working on, since Kirk yells to the Big E to beam the falling duo (Kirk/Sulu) up....meaning that the Enterprise is already equipped with transporters (sorry....don't think I can adopt the whole "teleporter" nomenclature).


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RE: Hmmmmm by Raptor10001 @ 09:52:43 on Nov 18

One thing I don't get... | Report this post to moderator
By: dgarber012771 (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:36:45 on Nov 18, 2008

How is it going to be possible for a 'Cadet' Kirk to somehow leapfrog a 'Commander' Spock to the Captaincy of Enterprise? I find it hard to believe that someone still in the academy could somehow progress through the ranks of Cadet and Officership to where he can catch, and surpass, a Commander?

Either everyone else on that ship is supremely sub par, or Kirk really is a 'wonder officer'.

Other than that, I'm stoked about this movie!!


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continuity | Report this post to moderator
By: Dingo's Kidneys (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:31:44 on Nov 18, 2008

I'm surely not one of the "continuity pornographers" here at TrekWeb, but this movie is throwing all pretense of continuity off the bridge. I've been watching TOS eps for over 40 years, and if this report is true, fundamental storyline elements are being seriously tampered with.

I'm usually the first to point out that Trek is entertainment, not religious dogma, and I'm sure Abrams will make an entertaining flick. But my own personal entertainment experience is undermined by such egregious departures from "facts" that I've known for years.

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RE: continuity by sb2004 @ 11:58:42 on Nov 18
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Scotty & Trans Warp?? | Report this post to moderator
By: MOJO (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:26:08 on Nov 18, 2008

Well, from my memory of Trans Warp, Scotty scoffed at the idea of it, in TSFS...also, as someone else posted, transporters had been in use already, back on Archer's Enterprise, and, the man that invented that technology, I forget his name, but, he was a friend of Archer's...remember the episode of Enterprise that was based on him?
While I realize this is a new take on Trek, I hope they don't try to make it as if transporting has not yet been effectivly and regularly in use, while, to me, and, many other "old" Trek fans, it would not fit in with what we already know, (JJ did say he was making this for the new fans...but, still...)I guess the new fans wouldn't care, or even, realize the great inconsistency. It would change alot, to me, but, whatever they do, I only hope it's good.
Also...I have not heard of any scene with old and young Spock, although, I am sure I read somewhere that the two have a scene together. From what I am reading here and there, I am staring to think that they do not, that old Spock accomplishes his objectives through young Kirk, and Scotty, to some degree. Which, is also fine by me. One final thought...not that it really matters, as it seems this movie will not follow any true canon, as they say, so, this is irrelevant, but, anyway, from what I know...Enterprise was supposed to take place about 100 years BEFORE Kirk and crew were flying around the Galaxy. If so, then, Archer, would be somewhere around 150 years old?? And, Porthos...his beagle, would be over 100 as well...but, I suppose, it could be another beagle, one of many, Archer got over the years, or, a clone, perhaps...I don't know, just thinking about all the little stuff that doesn't seem to fit.
I guess, at the end of the day, all that matters is that the movie is good, has a strong plot, (from the few scenes I have seen, the acting appears very strong, so, I feel good about that)and, brings in enough new fans and $$ to lift Trek back up.

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RE: Scotty & Trans Warp?? by captainkoloth @ 11:03:14 on Nov 18

New Bridge Screenshots | Report this post to moderator
By: GustavoLeao (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 05:47:44 on Nov 18, 2008

I really loved those pics of the new Enterprise bridge. More and more I am beginning to like this redesign. Okay, so maybe it is an alternate TOS timeline or universe (ala Marvel Comics Ultimate Universe) but gosh, the bridge looks gorgeous !

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RE: New Bridge Screenshots by mustangman289 @ 07:44:08 on Nov 18
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       RE: New Bridge Screenshots by mustangman289 @ 14:02:09 on Nov 18

WTF?! | Report this post to moderator
By: Uroboros (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:09:56 on Nov 18, 2008

I know a lot of people are just going gaga over this, but sorry those scenes sound awful.

Kirk with big swollen hands so he can't type. Oh boy hilarity will ensue I'm sure

Scotty inventing transporter technology. Must have been pretty easy to invent something that was already being played around with during Archer's time. And this Admiral let Scotty transport his beagle to "who knows where"

Uhura speaking three dialects of Romulan? Did the Federation pick all that up during the war with the Romulans. Oh wait did Enterprise establish those events did not happen?

Movie sounds like not only will ignore what has already been established in the past..it plans on trampling on it. Then pulling down it's pants and pissing on it.

I mean really would it have been so hard for them to hire new actors and perhaps have all this take place after the 5 year mission and before TMP. Were there not enough gaps in what we've already been shown that they had to start from scratch?


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RE: WTF?! by Kamen Rider Blade @ 07:21:11 on Nov 18
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RE: WTF?! by Logic Incarnate @ 05:37:19 on Nov 18
    RE: WTF?! by Admiral_Bumblebee @ 07:28:01 on Nov 18

Teleporters?! | Report this post to moderator
By: Miroslav (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:43:47 on Nov 18, 2008

I truly don't understand this crap about teleporters. If that is true, than this movie would undermine use of teleporters in the ENT.

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Pet beagle??? | Report this post to moderator
By: JimmyP (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:21:32 on Nov 18, 2008

Pet beagle-could the Admiral be an elderly Archer??


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RE: Pet beagle??? by Squall @ 05:34:13 on Nov 18
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TRANSWARP? | Report this post to moderator
By: Tom Shaw (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:47:06 on Nov 18, 2008

Referencing Scotty's interest in transwarp tech would be interesting. This would lead to Scotty's involvement in the Excelsior project...

But Transwarp has NOTHING to do with transporter tech as far as I know. Silly reviewer.


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RE: TRANSWARP? by digital_moose @ 10:15:09 on Nov 18
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