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By: Captain's Blog (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:51:17 on May 12, 2008

Well, IF Spock needs a lift on a ship, there was no reason why Picard or Riker couldn't have been involved.

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By: NEXUS (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:41:12 on May 11, 2008

Does anyone know if William Shatner was offered a cameo?

There seems to be a school of thought that would suggest he was offered a cameo and refused.

Can someone clear this up?

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What Shatner Wanted | Report this post to moderator
By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:00:12 on May 11, 2008

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Actually, there exist a fair number of good reasons as to why this movie shouldn't be a vehicle for catering to the whims of a relative handful of actor obsessed fanatics...


Yet that's exactly what ST:XI was to be, since Team Abrams desperately wanted to put Shatner in their script. Abrams deemed this an appropriate goal, despite GEN. Well into the WGA strike, meathead Orci posted loaded words about the possibility.

Just prior to Xmas, Damon Lindelof said "There are still ongoing talks" about Shatner. And, a real kicker: "Obviously it would be huge if Mr. Shatner wanted to be any part of the franchise. It's a challenge for us, though, because they killed Kirk off ... But hey, it's Trek, anything's possible, right?"

Along with Abrams' nod to Shatner's kibosh of cameos, Lindelof alludes that this was a matter of what Shatner wanted.

You bluster about how "this movie shouldn't be a vehicle for catering to the whims of a relative handful of actor obsessed fanatics" -- a group that includes Team Abrams.


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By: Postdoc (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:19:17 on May 10, 2008

I just hope they leave the TOS timelime intact. Seeing the original show changed into an alternate universe would be weird.

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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:40:45 on May 10, 2008

This isn't exactly a revelation, right? I guess when they said old Spock would be involved, I assumed it would start off in Next Gen territory.

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By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:43:05 on May 09, 2008 | (1)

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Here's the entirety of Abrams' latest remark: "It looks at the formation of the core characters from Star Trek, so it serves as a prequel, but it's also more than that."

That's it.

Anything else is blogger hearsay or mass hysteria.


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What I don't get... (Long Post) | Report this post to moderator
By: PeteFernbaugh (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:09:09 on May 09, 2008

What I don't get...actually, what I haven't gotten since tidbits about the movie were revealed is, "Why?"

Why do we need a reboot (if it is indeed a reboot)? What's wrong with Trek as it is? Even with all the canon, it's still possible to make a new movie accessible to the general public. I didn't start watching Trek regularly until midway through Voyager's seventh season, and even then, it didn't seem all that inaccessible.

The essence of Star Trek is pretty simple to grasp--starship in space with a captain and his/her crew encountering strange new worlds and boldly going where no one has gone before. When the Klingons are the villain, they're always identified as the Klingons...not hard to grasp that. Same for the Romulans, etc. etc. Part of the fun of watching the franchise so late in the game is discovering all that has gone before.

LOST is much more inaccessible than Trek, and it's only been on for four years!! I think Star Trek has been given a bad rap in the last decade or so, especially in light of the numerous serialized television shows that demand gargantuan amounts of time from viewers. One can devote as much time as one wants to Trek without losing track. Like I said before, boiled down, it's not all that complex.

And if Paramount is trying to shed Trek of its (once again, unfair) "nerd/geek image," they'll have to do a lot more than recast the original series with pretty-boy-and-girl actors, forget all that has gone before, make it look like STAR WARS, and act like the past is best left in the past.

It's got to be pure arrogance and snobbery (and profit margins) that is motivating Paramount and Co. to do a reboot (if it is indeed a reboot).

And for those who think that the Rikers should be the focus of a new TV series or the next movie (I would prefer a TV series), I'm there. I think Riker is a cool enough character, interesting and complex, to make STAR TREK: TITAN the answer to Trek's ratings woes.

After all, Trek is primarily a creature of TV. That's why the movies have always seemed to be more intimate and familial than say, oh...I dunno...STAR WARS. (It's also why TMP didn't work so well...it was trying to be what it was not. Memo that to Abrams.)

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Pine's Kirk lives. Shatner's Kirk remains dead? | Report this post to moderator
By: NEXUS (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:50:34 on May 09, 2008

If this second time line rumor is to be believed. It seems logical that Spock would preserve the time line that we currently are familiar with. Thus no role for William Shatner as Kirk. His Kirk will remain dead because Spock will succeed in saving their time line.

On the other hand Nero's actions will somehow create an alternative time line that Spock can't change. It that second time line all the characters and situations will be starting with a clean slate.

Pine's version of Kirk (as well as every other character) will not have his fate set in stone. In this time line Kirk does not die a stupid death by falling off a bridge. On the other hand any of the characters could die.

It's the perfect compromise. All that has gone before will stand. At the same time these characters will be able to go in any direction the writers choose.

I'd bet my life that somewhere in the film it is explained that there are an endless number of alternate universes. It some of those universes Spock remained dead. Kirk never dies. Khan defeated the Enterprise...etc. All the BBK people can rejoice that in some universe Kirk is still alive. Perhaps the Scotty for "Relics" is from one of those Alternative universes?

This is clearly the way they are going. The possibilities are endless.

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RE: And Frakes visited the set... | Report this post to moderator
By: Blessedwith3 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 15:27:05 on May 09, 2008

And truth be told, I haven't even watched the "Dreaded Episode" yet. I guess I've just been avoiding it..

But, what would it be like, after the starting credits roll we get treated to a big sweeping view of the "Titan" with the Rikers and spock on board.

I wouldn't be complaining too loudly I think....

Maybe we should watch for reports if Marina Sirtis "Visits" the set of JJ Trek.

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By: JagMan (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:23:00 on May 09, 2008

If it begins in the Next Gen era this would seem to indicate that everything from the Next Gen on remains untouched but TOS era gets a new look across the board to match the look of Trek from 1979 on.

My take:

TOS ERA: New look, new actors, more closely resembles everything post TOS.

TOS Movie era: All remains the same with the original cast now essentially older versions of their new, younger counterparts.

TNG Era: All remains the same.

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And Frakes visited the set... | Report this post to moderator
By: JagMan (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:16:09 on May 09, 2008

Hmmmm....

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