About a freakin' corridor?!?
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Once again, this is an 'under construction' corridor. The stark lighting and exposed piping are a product of it still being unfinished. To conclude that this is a BSG-style set is missing the entire point of the viral site.
A couple of more points:
- The design is actually very close in overall geometry to the sets of early Trek episodes (I think mostly the "Cage" pilot). Although expect a great deal of additional detail and lighting effects.
- Expect this and other teaser images to be regularly updated over the next 11 months leading up tho the premiere. For example, this image will gradually introduce walls over the exposed pipes and brighter, softer lighting.
- Although much of the designs will reference the original sets, expect a great deal of redesign and 're-imagining'. The Enterprise may at first glance look much like the TOS version, but at only moderately closer inspection you'll see considerable redesign. Obviously there'll be a lot more micro-detail, but more significantly angles and edges will flow more organically and its overall size will appear larger.
- What Abrams and co. are doing is capturing the essence and potency of the original Star Trek and taking it to the next level. The hope is to take the very best of TOS and then add even more scope, realism, drama, and cinematic punch to anything we've seen before.
But this is A REBOOT. Which means that canon needs to, and will be, sacrificed at times to deliver a great new take on the franchise.
I for one am all for it.
Kind of looks like Krell corridors from Forbidden Planet, too. Also similar to Gorkon's flagship in ST6. Goes along with grounding the Enterprise during construction as a kind of de-fantasizing Star Trek and de-idealizing it-- the same mistake made in many of the spinoffs. Can we expect phasers that look like guns, too? Jefferies put the phaser II grip in the middle because he thought beam weapons would have no recoil. Oddly, while they're buying into this grim darkness, color is coming back in with Spring clothes this year. Go figure.
Kind of looks like Krell corridors from Forbidden Planet, too. Also similar to Gorkon's flagship in ST6. Goes along with grounding the Enterprise during construction as a kind of de-fantasizing Star Trek and de-idealizing it-- the same mistake made in many of the spinoffs. Can we expect phasers that look like guns, too? Jefferies put the phaser II grip in the middle because he thought beam weapons would have no recoil. Oddly, while they're buying into this grim darkness, color is coming back in with Spring clothes this year. Go figure.
But gloomy lighting on a starship doesn't really make sense. They're supposed to be places of work. And even today we have sophisticated lighting designed to raise mood.
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Am I the only one who finds it funny how many responses (esp. negative ones) have been generated from a picture of an empty hallway?
Certainly not a huge departure from what's come before. Rather simular, really.
Why would a supposedly enlightened human race want to live in a dark cave? To those who say this is an improvement, you need to get your eyes examined.
Fortunately this is most likely a corridor under construction and I doubt the final result will look like this. Everything else about the movie seems to be adding up nicely so far. I better trust Abrams on this one.
Give me a break - I've seen every version of ST, the original series so many times, I know the lines, and virtually every single episode of each of the follow ups and whether or not the interior corridors of the old Enterprise C are preserved or not, I think it's really obvious that in general, all the persons working on the new ST are trying hard to preserve so many things. That they've actually managed to keep the outside of the Entrerprise C itself is great too. But,to be honest, I'm completely ecstatic that they're changing that drab 60s interior and not trying to remake it somehow as it was on TOS.
AND why should anyone really care about that, esp if it looks better with the change. Those things are just dressing,makeup - they're just not important and changing them spoils nothing. Be unhappy if somehow the new ST looks like a bad monster rlick on the SCiFi network. But, be happy if things are changed AND at the same time improved. And for god sake, give these people and the project a chance before it happens. Why people almost panic about trivial things is beyond me. I admit that initially I wasn't so keen on the notion od sdoing a film based on the earlier ST tiees, rather than a later notion,But, why not-it could work and hoperully will. And,who knows - it could be better, (I never thought TNG would be as good as it was and I realky believe it far imporoved the OS. And for a second example: Who ever would have thought that anyone could have done what BSG has done using the same exact story line and even some episode stories as that hodgepodge BSG copy of Star Wars that came out in the 1970s and 80s).The JJ Abrahms group seems indeed to know what they're doing. If you have doubts, at least Be open. I just hope people aren't upset about something as trivial as that the corridors in the new 1701-7 just don't look like the old. If you are, just think .. maybe an interior designer came in when no one was looking and just hadn't gotten round to it when the OS was on. :)
That corridor looks awful.
I really, really hope that it is a work in progress. My confidence in this movie just dropped by, like, 50%. I knew they were going to take some liberties: round some corners here, change a color or two there, that sort of thing.
But this looks like a fucking submarine or aircraft carrier corridor. I can almost see the water dripping from a leaky pipe in the ceiling. Actually, to be honest, the first thing that popped into my head when I saw it was the Scimitar corridor from Nemesis. That's the kind of ambience this corridor has-- that's 101% wrong for an Enterprise set.
There is nothing in that corridor that even somewhat resembles a TOS corridor other than the fact that it is, indeed, a corridor. At the very least they could've made the walls light grey and made sure the corridor was brightly lit.
Looks pretty damn good to me. But it's just a corridor. To the extent it looks BSG-ish, well, that may say more about BSG's derivativeness than this movie's. Look at the corridors Kirk runs through in TSFS and TWOK.
Mr. Krutzler below is, in part, correct. It's clear they are trying to occupy the canon between Enterprise and TMP. Nothing new? Nothing objectionable either.
I have not before been in favor of adhering to canon closely if it's bull-headed in approach. But let us now hope the canon remains intact while they manage to tell us a story which breaks with convention.
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I think I could easily get behind this as long as it's better lit in the movie. I doesn't strike me as incomplete but it is very hard to tell in that grainy image.
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If that's a finished corridor, it's a dopy design. Those curbs, especially the jutting square corners, are a toe-stubbing trip hazard and a waste of precious floor space.
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As a hard core trek fan I can say this is fine, again this is in a time before Kirk so the ship was quite different. The Cage is just that...A pilot...In no way do trivial things need to be taken literally, Trek history is granted some leeway. I mean Star Trek Enterprise changed a few things but for the better and overall gave a clarity to that period that we have never seen. I love everything I see so far regarding the new movie.
Man, I just don't understand the goofy desire to have this new production look like the 60's TV show. This interior shot looks great and what one could expect from a military/exploration vessel. And ya, Gene wanted to convey a "utopia", but get real folks. Whether or not Earth is a utopia, the rest of the galaxy isn't likely to have those same ideals. That being said, it would seem to make sense to design your starships with a dual purpose in mind - singing kum ba yah around a campfire and dealing with alien threats from species that simply don't give a crap about a human utopia.
The luxo-barge designs of the TNG era, and the utterly dated look of the 60's TV show, will simply not fly here in 2008. It's gotta look contempory while attempting to not only depict a possible future, but also to have SOME familiar elements from the previous ST incarnations. IMO, they've done a great job thus far.
If I wanted to see the original series, I'd watch the original series, or 'Trials and Tribblations', or 'In a Mirror Darkly'. For this movie, I want to see a modern looking/feeling interpretation of the ST universe. So far, it's looking good!
Man, I just don't understand the goofy desire to have this new production look like the 60's TV show. This interior shot looks great and what one could expect from a military/exploration vessel. And ya, Gene wanted to convey a "utopia", but get real folks. Whether or not Earth is a utopia, the rest of the galaxy isn't likely to have those same ideals. That being said, it would seem to make sense to design your starships with a dual purpose in mind - singing kum ba yah around a campfire and dealing with alien threats from species that simply don't give a crap about a human utopia.
The luxo-barge designs of the TNG era, and the utterly dated look of the 60's TV show, will simply not fly here in 2008. It's gotta look contempory while attempting to not only depict a possible future, but also to have SOME familiar elements from the previous ST incarnations. IMO, they've done a great job thus far.
If I wanted to see the original series, I'd watch the original series, or 'Trials and Tribblations', or 'In a Mirror Darkly'. For this movie, I want to see a modern looking/feeling interpretation of the ST universe. So far, it's looking good!
There's a lot of negative feedback from people concerned about the lack of canonical evidence that this film is going to be set in the same universe as TOS. I mirror that concern in a big way. Yet, I'm still deluding myself with rationalizations for each new visual element we see.
Now... the corridor. Perhaps it's one of the never before seen corridors down near the sump pump and the chemical storage tanks. We're told that we're going to be seeing much more of the ship than we did in TOS, so perhaps this is just one aspect of 'our' Enterprise that has never been shown on screen.
Frankly, though, I'm more concerned with the scale issue of the exterior of the ship. She looks a whole lot larger than she should in my opinion. But that's another post altogether.
Looks just like Galactica's Corridor. here
That pretty much confirms it as a reimagining and not canonical, as far as I'm concerned. The corridor looks fine - but it's a TMP-era corridor, not a TOS-era corridor, and as such it breaks continuity not only with TOS but also DS9 and Enterprise, both of which showed the TOS era corridors being the same as, well, TOS.
Reimagining is fine by me- but unless the storyline establishes this to be some sort of new timeline or whatever, Abrams needs to stop calling this a canonical prequel, because it ain't.
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... I just don't know.
A lot of people say they are "sick" of futuristic technology looking shiny and clean, and there seems to be a fad against it. I am not sure, but I think it started with George Lucas gritting up some of the tech in the orignal Star Wars movies (Eps IV, V, VI).
However, I think Federation starships, -especially the "Queens of Starfleet" as the Constitutions were, should be regal, bright, white, shiny and spotless ... at least when they're 'ready.' Being gritty or dirty should be reserved for if and when they get battered and damaged in a firefight.
I could accept dark corridors like that if it was under construction, but Gene's whole idea for the Federation was it was a utopia, Starfleet was not a military organization and its primary purpose was not war. Its starships should be a beacon of freedom and hope. I think if anything should buck this dark, gritty trend, Federation starships like the Constitution and even moreso the Enterprise should.
I don't necessarily agree that it's "gritty," and I think that's a misuse of the word. With a clearer image, that hallway probably looks very cutting-edge, sleek, chic, etc.
However, it's hard to look at this hallway and think "ship of exploration." Seriously, try it.
Honestly though, I think it's all a moot point, because I have a hard time believing they'd show us a finished hallway -- what with the whole "under construction" angle they're going for.
If one more person uses the words 'gritty', 'dark' or 'BSG', I'm going to lose my damn mind. It's a picture of an artfully lit hallway. That's it.
Just becuase something isn't colored like a Pollok painting, and doesn't make me think of hugs and puppies, and actually looks real as opposed to Trek's usual over-lit candy-cane TV aesthetic, that doesn't make it 'gritty' or 'dark' (two of the most abused words around) or like BSG or anything else.
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looks like a cross b/w DS9 and the NX-01. Nothing new here.
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The Star Trek Tour is going to rock in so many ways. I cannot freakin wait. If money wasn't an issue, I'd fly to L.A. right now to see it. As it is, I have to wait untill it comes to the East coast.
As far as this new movie is concerned....Bah. I'll wait and just rent the DVD. The corridors look too unoriginal. If they were brave enough they'd throw in some reds and bright yellows as a throw back to TOS.
It's quite obvious that this set is 'under construction'. This is a CGI rendering of what the corridor would look like with the walls still uninstalled and exposed pipes everywhere. Quite clever actually.
Clearly the final set will have a less bare-bones industrial look to it.
Excellent viral concept. The reboot is shaping up nicely.
I have conditional contempt for this picture.
If it is an “under construction” shot of a corridor without walls up yet, great. If that is what it is, I think I will like it with its “skin” on.
If it is the “finished” shot of a corridor, than finished is what the NCC-1701 is to me. They have taken a phaser to the head of Matt J. (in memorial, of course).
I am not a “continuity porn” person. I don’t (and have not) demanded that evolution on a motion picture artistic level be stifled. And further, I have been a voice of support for this film on this site when so many others for so long have bashed it. Having said that, if they trash established look THAT much, than call it what it really is: BSG-1701.
The fit-n-feel of this, if this is indeed finished, communicates so much that is contrary to philosophy and attitude of the established Federation. It communicates cold, dark, foreboding attitudes. Furthermore, it communicates a complete lack of skill on the part of Star Fleet Command to provide a “workable” environment for its crew, given the supposed advancements of the 23rd century. Again, this may simply be an “under construction” shot (and I HOPE it is!). But if this shot is a finished hallway, than the previously understood Federation, for my money (hint, hint) has been trashed beyond belief. And if that is the case, it has my complete, utter, horror-stricken contempt.
(One, non-emotional caveat: If they want to argue that this is what the NCC-1701 looked like under Pike, but had a refit prior “The Cage,” while it would be stretching things quite a bit, I suppose it would be no more convoluted than Orci’s argument as to why the ship was built on Earth. However, if the film does indeed end with Kirk in command, that's out the window)
That's not too bad. The look of a hallway doesn't give an indication as to the quality of the movie, though, for all the nitpickers out there. :P
However, I'm inclined to believe this hallway, much like the other video feeds, depicts the ship under construction. I am positive that in the end, the hallways will look different. They'll definitely be more brightly lit.
Hooray for new Trek movie. What a time to be a fan.
I like it pretty well, though I'd like to see more, higher quality shots.
With the exception of the obnoxious spotlights, it actually looks like the interior of a starship, not a hallway in someones apartment complex.
I gotta say, the graininess of the picture and the lighting (which I adore) hearken to the Galactica.
This looks far removed from the luxury-liners-in-space we've grown accustomed to. Hell, NX-01's corridors look downright whimsical compared to this.
Bravo (so far) to the set designers.
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Is it just me or does that look like the interior of a Klingon Garbage scow?
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Is it just me or does that look like the interior of a Klingon Garbage scow?
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This didn't come off a BSG web site did it? Doesn't look like Star Trek at all. Except maybe DS9.
RE: BSG?
by GustavoLeao @ 12:08:23 on Jan 22
RE: BSG?
by OV-101 @ 11:48:33 on Jan 22
RE: BSG?
by Who Mourns for Lemmiwinks @ 11:47:50 on Jan 22
RE: BSG?
by Fort N'zur @ 11:46:33 on Jan 22
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by Beamer @ 12:55:31 on Jan 22
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