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By: Canman (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:18:01 on Nov 06, 2007

In Star Trek Generations, William Shatner accepted the role where Captain Kirk dies. What does he want - the Genesis Effect to resurrect Him? He made the decision with Generations. Live with it.

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By: garym (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:51:57 on Nov 05, 2007

Did people make this much fuss when Nimoy wasn't in Generations? Shatner is stoking this. He should ask to do the opening monologue and wish the film well.

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"Marc" spoke to The Mirror, too? | Report this post to moderator
By: JagMan (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:06:43 on Nov 02, 2007 | (1)

Marc sounds like the same guy from The Mirror interview.

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As the old saying goes... | Report this post to moderator
By: sb2004 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:39:34 on Nov 01, 2007

As the old saying goes, there is no such thing as bad publicity.

So fans are organizing a boycott, eh? (Gee, I should have started a pool. So far every single one of my predictions regarding fanbase reaction to Trek 11 is coming true) Well, IIRC a large and rather vocal group of James Bond fans organized a boycott of Casino Royale, and we all saw how well that turned out. So well in fact that EON Productions is paying Daniel Craig the gross domestic product of Equatorial Guinea to make 4 more films.

If you want a film to go away, simply ignore it. Whining that so-and-so isn't in the movie just makes you look silly, especially if the actor you don't want receives any sort of acclaim. The "CraigNotBond" people got not only egg on their faces, but ham, cheese, syrup and the whole continental breakfast.

Al

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What "debacle?" | Report this post to moderator
By: Sam Cogley (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:48:45 on Nov 01, 2007 | (2)

The only "debacle" is contained in the minds of a bunch of fanwankers who just can't bring themselves to face reality, and as a result are making Trek fans look even more pathetic and geeky than than the common perception.

To quote the great Shat himself: GET A LIFE!!!

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By: brett (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:56:05 on Nov 01, 2007

look.

i like shatner. but isnt kirk dead? didnt he want kirk to die in generations? if it doesnt make any sense story wise then he cant be in the film.

personal note to shatner...

your career is at an alltime high in terms of respect, reward, and noteriety. you have surpased the "type cast" curse and taken yourself beyond being considered a "joke" by many. That is hard to do. i like you.

but...

kirk is dead. i know it sucks, it just is.

let it go.
dont make a fool of yourself.
dont come out to be bitter or jealous.

just keep doing good work.

to the fans...

think about what you are asking...

its too much. you want trek to continue (so do i). you want it to be done "right" this time after previous dissapointment (i share that dissapointment). so how in the hell could you get kirk in this movie? how would that work and still make a good film. the movie needs to be about star trek. not two hours of explaining a situation to put shatner as kirk in the movie just for the sake of doing so.

he's dead jim.

this is not guiding light.
this is not the wwe.
i know its science fiction but there are some rules.

this is star trek.

b.

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Sign this petition www.wewantkirk.com | Report this post to moderator
By: NEXUS (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:45:41 on Nov 01, 2007

I saw this petition today over at trekmovie.com

I have no idea who these people are put it can't hurt.

www.wewantkirk.com

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By: God (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 15:32:28 on Nov 01, 2007

I'll boycott any film that has Shatner in it.

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By: Doctor Trekker (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:49:01 on Nov 01, 2007

Remember back during "Enterprise" there was talks about Bill making an appearance? If I recall, one rumored reason he did not was that those in charge did not want to pay the exuberant amount of money he was requesting. They gave the impression that he had the attitude that he was doing them a favor, thus they should pay out the nose. If there was any truth to that, I wonder if the same thing is going on again but on a much larger scale?


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I still think we're possibly being had. | Report this post to moderator
By: Operation: Lemmiwinks! (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:19:26 on Nov 01, 2007 | (3)

I guess I'll just quote myself from a month an a half ago:

How do you get people talking about a tired movie franchise? Tell the fans of said franchise that their "icon" will not be in the film. Then, have him publicly "pout" about it.

Now, I will grant that there's been much more definitive language from Shatner in the past few weeks. However, in my mind, that still doesn't cancel out the possibility of them/him intentionally deceiving us.


If they had said absolutely nothing about Bill, and he ended up not being in the film, would these people still be boycotting it? I guess I can understand their unhappiness, as I felt pretty slighted when NEM was built up as centering around the Romulans and we ended up with... well... Nemesis. But to boycott the film? All that will do is help to ensure that no Trek at all comes out for decades. The Franchise is in new hands now, and we have no way of knowing whether the product will be good or bad until we see the final result. If you think otherwise, you're only feeding your own self-important smugness.

Star Trek is much bigger than one man.

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By: admiral_qua (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:42:19 on Nov 01, 2007

This whole Shatner thing is getting out of hand. I have no respect for fans that are planning to boycott this film, all that will do is hurt trek. It is ultimately selfish and petty just because their pseudo god Shatner is not in it. I have nothing but respect for the man that gave us Captain Kirk but I ask again what will boycotting the film do for trek? What if the film is excellent? How do we look to the general public when we plan to boycott something dear to us? We look like a bunch of whining complacent fools who can't look to the future and accept something as it is. If Kirk cannot fit into the story in a logical way then there is no reason to have him in it. I don't want some gimmicky "HERE'S KIRK!" inclusion, that is dishonest and disrespectful to Star Trek. Bring on 2008 and bring on Star Trek XI with or without Shatner! Here's hoping for a great film.

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How about my fan reaction... | Report this post to moderator
By: SpiritOne (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:38:56 on Nov 01, 2007

So what, Shatner is not in the movie. Did the 7th seal just rupture as a result?

Moon of blood? no
Seas a boiling? no
Shatner not in a star trek movie? check

its not the end of the world people. Give the movie a chance before crying that Shatner isn't in it. Besides, the last Shatner Trek, kinda sucked...

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