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Ira Steven Behr on Voyager, DS9 and Star Trek XI

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By GustavoLeao / 13:35, 31 May 2007 / General Star Trek

At a press round table discussing the premiere of the fourth season of his hit series The 4400, former Star Trek Deep Space Nine producer Ira Steven Behr also talked about the past and future of the Trek franchise.

"For one bright shining moment I thought there was a Camelot." he said "For Deep Space Nine they let us really mess around with the formula quite a bit and maybe that was bad or good I don't know. ...I still remember the day (and I loved Michael Piller) but the craziest thing he ever said to me is when he came into my office and said "listen Ira you are doing a great job on Deep Space Nine, but you just have to realize that Voyager is coming out and it is going to be the tentpole for the franchise and you will always be in the shadow of Voyager because that is the real Star Trek."  But I can point to the moment when they put the Maquis into the Starfleet uniforms, that was the beginning of the retreat."


"Since then it has always been trying to regain the past and that is the only thing I can say about the movie. It's the safe thing, it could be a huge hit, it could be the greatest thing of all time, but the fact that they had to go backwards into the future...the Marshal McLuahan thing where ‘we march backwards into the future' when he was talking about the media, well that is a perfect example of it by having to go back to Kirk and Spock. But I wish em luck because what ever is good for Star Trek will sell Deep Space Nine DVDs."
 

"The safer the franchise got, the weaker it got."

The full report can be found at Trek Movie Report.



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Huh? Going back has been successful...too | Report this post to moderator
By: Chaotic Asimov (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 08:37:56 on Jun 01, 2007

The Voyage Home, though not my favorite TREK film, was a big hit...big! It went backward in time... And, in my opinion, The Wrath of Khan is the best movie, and it is centered around a character (Khan) from an episode 15 years earlier. No new idea there...

And the best TNG movie was FIRST CONTACT, again another reach back in time. DS9's own episode "TRIAL AND TRIBULATIONS", a favorite of mine, definately didn't go forward...heck, even the "THE WAY OF THE WARRIOR" from DS9 borrowed from the past (Klingons are bad guys) to bring some ommmph to DS9...

So, sorry Mr. Behr. usually I agree with you, but on this one I do not. Borrowing from past success isn't a bad idea if done properly. Even your own 4400 touches on story aspects from other famous movies or tv-shows.

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RE: Huh? Going back has been successful...too by wingsabre @ 23:01:24 on Aug 12
RE: Huh? Going back has been successful...too by guardian452 @ 14:41:37 on Jun 01

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By: Jean-Luc (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:14:06 on Jun 01, 2007

I watched The 4400 steadily at first, then caught most of it when it came back. But now it seems like a year or more since I've seen it and at this point I don't have any interest in trying to get caught up again. I didn't even know the show was still being produced.

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By: timmer33 (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:52:50 on Jun 01, 2007

"The safer the franchise got, the weaker it got."

Truer words have never beeen spoken about Trek.

Except maybe: "Geez, Voyager sure did suck."


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Boldly Going Back | Report this post to moderator
By: c.p. (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:41:56 on Jun 01, 2007

Again, returning to the original characters isn't "going back" anymore than returning to a formula that hasn't worked for over 10 years is "going forward". Centering this movie around DS9 or VOY characters, or creating all new ones would, I believe, be seen as "going back" by the general audience and critics alike. Whether it be another chapter of a spin-off they've already dismissed or yet another whole NEW spin-off, it's more of the same post-NG formula they've already tuned out. Fans to a large degree have done the same. "Going back" in this case is Star Trek's best option for going forward--boldly where no Trek has gone before.


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By: Brannon (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:14:00 on May 31, 2007

Nothing inherently wrong with going back to the future. It's done all the time with a variety of results....music, advertising, business. All of these have at one time or another returned to a previously successful point and tried to recreate the magic.

Hopefully, in this instance, it will be the rebirth of a franchise.

In one of my favorite books, Inigo and Fezzik discuss what Vizzini has told them if they lose their way, "Fool, fool, back to the beginning is the rule."

Made sense to them, makes sense to me.

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