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By Steve Krutzler / 06:41, 2 May 2006 / Feature Films

As every Mission: Impossible: III interview is watched closely for the slightest hint about his plans for a 2008 Star Trek feature film, J.J. Abrams is remaining tight-lipped for the most part.

In an interview with the Times Online, the Lost writer/director has added another couple sentences worth scrutiny:

“We have a take that I think would be very interesting,” he says, guardedly. “I grew up with the show and it feels like a good time to take another look at it. There’s an opportunity to do something you haven’t seen before that could be very exciting.”

Abrams also talked briefly about Star Trek XI to Canada.com

"I am very excited but luckily I'm working with the Lost folks and the writers from Mission: Impossible III," he said.

Asked about casting and the shooting start date, Abrams raised both hands to stop the enthusiastic inquiries. "It's too early to talk about," he said smiling. "Way too early."

These are the first remarks about Trek since last week's Empire article claiming that he denied Variety's Kirk/Spock Academy years plot report, but which contained contradictory quotes from Abrams himself.



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By: falcon (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:33:39 on May 03, 2006

...based on some of the comments being made about a movie that HASN'T EVEN BEEN CAST OR WRITTEN YET, LET ALONE FILMED, I find myself wishing that the asteroid would actually hit in 2008.

Come on, people, haven't you heard of a little thing like PATIENCE? Or ANTICIPATION? Give it a rest, already.

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Kirk/Spock "Meeting" at SFA - Temporally & MultiGramatic | Report this post to moderator
By: Michael X. Maelstrom (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:46:28 on May 03, 2006 | Edit History (1)


Hail Spartacus,

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Pardon me, but how could a young Kirk meet a young Spock?

Spock was on the Enterprise under Pike!


True, that does require an explanation.

One could argue that Spock was an excellent student :)

Additionally, an explanation is provided to account for this in the SFA novel: Crisis on Vulcan, Starfleet Academy No 1.

The Explanation: While accompanying his father on a diplomatic mission, a young Spock met Captain Robert April and more importantly here, First Officer Christopher Pike aboard the Enterprise.

It was purportedly Spock's "positive" meeting with 1st Officer Pike and the Enterprise crew (who easily accepted him as part of their extended family) that led to his decision to go to Starfleet Academy (instead of The Vulcan Science Academy).

Not canon of course, but it's an explanation for the Pike/Spock seemingly long-term bond.

Finally, according to www.StarTrek.com there is no discrepancy issue on the Kirk/Spock SFA attending years, it unambiguously states that,

1. Kirk Attended Starfleet Academy: 2250-2254
2. Spock Attended Starfleet Academy: 2249-2253

So, their time there does overlap.

Meaning that if Abrams wants to focus on Kirk-Spock at Starfleet Academy, it's consistent with StarTrek.com's established timeline.

Even so, you may be right, it doesn't mean that Trek XI will be an SFA Kirk-Spock movie.

if you look at the original article at Variety, it doesn't actually state that Trek XI will center on Starfleet Academy with Spock and Kirk _attending_ together.

That was an _assumption_ made after the Variety article on Trek XI largely because the wording is grammatically nebulous and/or misleading, or at least, can be read in several ways.

id est. the original Variety news item stated,

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(the) Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto OrciRoberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission. - Variety

Though "Kirk-Spock Attending SFA together" is one possible interpretation, it could also be much more literal, meaning it involves Spock and Kirk _running into eachother_ / their first meeting on the SFA campus.

(as opposed to the film centering on them going to school together there at the same time)

The "SFA first meeting" aspect could be an extremely minor plot point, that was blown out of proportion by misinterpretation (interestingly that would explain Abrams followup statement that the story circulating was not exactly correct)

ie. The _main focus_ might not be Spock-Kirk at SFA, but rather might actually be on their first outer space mission together.

Guess we'll 'ave to wait and see what Abrams is cooking.

*pause*

I hate waiting.

Michael X.


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Abrams leaking like an Airlock: Schtum. MUTOS (?) | Report this post to moderator
By: Michael X. Maelstrom (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 15:48:12 on May 02, 2006


//BEGIN Opine and Speculation.

Crytpic bugger that Abrams, there are moments when I should like to train an MQ-1 Predator's Hellfire missiles on him to make him talk. But that would be wrong.

He's like an Mars landing thruster, feeds you with ultra-pure hydrazine only to then decelerate.

Very difficult to ascertain with any degree of certainty where he's going with Trek XI.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm(n) Mirror-Universe TOS Trek?

^Raise-Other-Eyebrow.

//END Opine and Speculation.

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RE: Abrams leaking like an Airlock: Schtum. MUTOS (?) by Spartacus @ 05:32:59 on May 03
RE: Abrams leaking like an Airlock: Schtum. MUTOS (?) by Spartacus @ 05:32:20 on May 03

Dump Abrams... Get Davies | Report this post to moderator
By: seventhstar (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:00:36 on May 02, 2006

If the next Star Trek film will be a reboot instead of a continuation, then clearly he does not have the imagination necessary for the job.

The existing Star Trek universe is so rich for creative exploration, whether a prequel, TOS era or post-Nemesis, that a reimagining is a cop-out for "we're out of ideas."

Perhaps a better candidate for the job would be Russell T. Davies. Look how the new Doctor Who has been essentially reinvented, while maintaining the continuity of the show. It's so different from the original series, but still the same character and concept.

Anyone can "re-imagine" something. It takes real creativity to pull off what Davies did with the new Doctor Who.


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RE: Remake shemake hemake | Report this post to moderator
By: cooper2000 (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:55:57 on May 02, 2006

They have to be very careful with this propert. Piss of the fans and they will turn on the movie. I say, do a movie in the future not in the past and do it with cast members we know.


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Stop me if we've heard this before... | Report this post to moderator
By: Sabotman (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:57:37 on May 02, 2006

Now don't take this the wrong way, I want another Trek movie, I want Berman out of the picture, but consider this before we errect a monument in Abrams name...

Back a few decades Robert Wise was hailed as a great director & everyone was behind him and Star Trek: The Motion(less) Picture.
There was a lot of excitment around his Star Trek before it began.
Only a few years back we had John Logan (like Abrams a long time Star Trek fan) who wrote ST:Nemesis.
Who can forget that hoopla of excitment?
I will get excited when the movie is actually playing and something exciting is happening, not a moment sooner.
All I have is his glowing resume (like Wise) and his detication to Trek speach (same thing Logan said).


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RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by Terry212 @ 12:45:42 on May 02
RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by thestuff @ 10:54:38 on May 02
RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by c.p. @ 10:48:18 on May 02
    RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by GustavoLeao @ 11:33:49 on May 02
       RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by dashock @ 12:21:05 on May 04
       RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by c.p. @ 10:15:56 on May 03
       RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by The Imagemaster @ 21:16:13 on May 02
       RE: Stop me if we've heard this before... by CoveTom1 @ 13:37:10 on May 02

Remake shemake hemake | Report this post to moderator
By: Scorpius (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:43:12 on May 02, 2006

If it's a remake there is no need for a "younger" Kirk Spock academy first mission story because they may as well jump straight into Captain Kirk. Mr Spock and the Enterprise.

If it's a contunuation/prequel of the existing mythos pre-TOS Kirk and Spock makes more sense.

Whatever it is it would need the official onscreen handshake of Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner as their older counterparts for me to care about it.

Just keep Ron Moore the hell away from it if it ever leads into a series. He can't write Kirk for shit.

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RE: Remake shemake hemake by Sir Gary of Makin @ 09:24:11 on May 02
    RE: Remake shemake hemake by Scorpius @ 11:17:11 on May 02
RE: Remake shemake hemake by Terry212 @ 09:07:52 on May 02

Let the whining commence | Report this post to moderator
By: Ensign Ro-Your-Boat (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 07:57:44 on May 02, 2006

Something is becoming wonderfully obvious: Abrams' movie is going to be some sort of re-envisioned adaptation based on the original Star Trek TV series. And I couldn't be happier. :)

Let the unreasonably contrived mental pretzels about how "another look" and "a different take" doesn't mean exactly what it says it means.

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RE: Let the whining commence by MaxPower @ 23:22:13 on May 03
NO reboot, thanks. by Hbasm @ 04:18:38 on May 03
RE: Let the whining commence by fx7 @ 09:08:22 on May 02
Abrams says "interesting" not "different" take by TRexx @ 08:38:25 on May 02
    RE: Abrams says "interesting" not "different" take by Ensign Ro-Your-Boat @ 09:02:51 on May 02
       RE: Abrams says "interesting" not "different" take by GustavoLeao @ 09:25:34 on May 02
RE: Let the whining commence by Dukat @ 08:31:58 on May 02

And the trickle of tangible information continues... | Report this post to moderator
By: NX-47 (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:57:10 on May 02, 2006

OK, so here's what we KNOW so far (Steve/Trexx/Gustavo, correct me if I'm wrong/add to my omission(s)):

1. JJ Abrams is 'helming' (producing, perhaps directing, perhaps writing)
2. His LOST cohorts will be assisting
3. He's stated that he's a longtime Trek fan


And here's what might be safe to infer, based on his statements:

1. Trek XI will likely be set in the TOS era
2. It will be as different from all previous Trek iterations, akin to the difference between Batman Begins and Tim Burton's Batman

Anyone care to add to this list? I can re-edit it based on people's input....

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RE: And the trickle of tangible information continues... by Rahmadi Sumahidro Bambang @ 07:06:52 on May 02
    RE: And the trickle of tangible information continues... by NX-47 @ 07:23:15 on May 02
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