An interesting propsition means they are throwing a lot of money at Stewart.
Well then, just enjoy whatever TREK you like, TOS, TNG, DS9, VOYAGER or ENTERPRISE because it will never get any better than that.
Yup, those WERE the voyages....
No one will go see Kirk on screen. Only the die hard fans would......just like they raised millions of dollars for Enterprise, which was a really stupid idea.Donate money to help feed people, not to save a show that no one watches. Only a TNG movie would attract a wide base of viewers. Where did all the Trek watchers go when DS9 came on the air, where did they go when Voyager came on the air, where did they go when Enterprise came on the air? A lot of you guys think that anything that has the name Star Trek too it qualifys it as gold. You might want Kirk back but the majority of the Trek watchers do not. Whats best for Trek is not what you want, but what will attract the widest and biggest audience. We know now that pre-quels do not work. Recasting kirk and crew would be a failure as well.
Hi, this is my first post and I thought I would add my two credits in how to breathe life back to Trek.
First, we all eventually have to come to the realization that Shatner and Stewert are getting/are old and easily within the next 10 or more years these guys we love will not be able to do much more than enjoy the rest of their lifes and pass on commitment.
I personally think Trek needs to go back to basics and simply film another "classic episode" only with new actors portraying the classic crew of Kirk and Company.
At one time this senario was considered blasphame, but after seeing other actor's re-create familar roles sussessfully throughout the past several years, maybe, just maybe, our favorite characters could breathe again.
But it would have to be done by someone who doesnt mind re-creating someone one else's work, rather than someone who wishs to do their own "version".
The lead actor would need not to study Shakespeare for acting the part of Captain James T. Kirk, but study Shatner.
And the same for all the other actor's characters.
We would need to hear the bold classic music, not the mostly lame elevator movie music.
We would need to see the simple classic NBC sets, rather than techno-style sets of the movies.
And finally, all the famous fly-by shots of the Enterprise recaptured with digital photography using the orginal ship from the Smithsonion.
Not computer generated.
And no more starship dog fight scenes, that's Star Wars, not Star Trek.
We need STAR TREK re-created, not re-invisioned.
We need STAR TREK RETURNS, not STAR TREK REDONE.
A film version of "Naked Time" and "Tommorow is Yesterday" combined like the original producers wanted would be a nice familar foot in the door to get back what we lost.
Nobody outside the people on this board want to see a film with a new cast or a film version of Ds9,Voy or Ent. A prequel film w/out Kirk and Picard would not make $40 million at the box office.
The only way the public stands up and takes notice of ST 11 is if Shatner and Stewart are attached to it. It's as simple as that. Look at the traffic this board and others get when Kirk and Picards return (seems to happen once a week) is brought up. The return of Kirk,Picard and Spock is the only way a new ST film makes a dent at the box office.
Kirk,Picard and Spock are the only thing that gets people's attention. Nobody but die hard ST fans care about anything else. That's not to say they can't introduce a new cast in this film. Infact it would be a smart thing to do. What better way to introduce a new cast than to stand side by side with ST's greatest legends? The new cast would have instant credibility.
Kirk and Picard are going to return in some form or another. Why not get it done now?
In a related story former Presidents Ford and Carter are coming back to help out the White House.
When is the franchise going to forget about these two old 'hamosaurouses'? They are both real good at chewing scenery, and I like their acting, but come on.
Time to move on...
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"Weighty people in Hollywood have come up with a very interesting proposition." he said
Is this a hint that it is Shatner that has something to do with this?
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People on this thread should not be concerned with the age of these two great thespians. Look at Christopher Lee. He was the only one who had any charisma in those Star Wars movies and the guy was 80. Trek is in serious trouble, with or without this movie being made. The strength and longevity of Trek has always been in their series-based shows, not in the movies. True, this movie could be a launching pad for a new series or something completely separate from the series. And people are correct, the TOS movies were successful because of the character-driven plots. TNG has not made a character driven movie yet. I guess you could say Insurrection was the closest, but the story was just so terrible. I used to think I had the answers to what was ailing the Trek Franchise, but now I'm not so sure.
If there is a new Trek film in 4 years, think about this. Stewart will be 70 years old & Shatner will be 79 years old. I sure wouldn't expect much action from either of them. Although I love both TOS & TNG, I think it's time for a new generation to man the Enterprise.
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“I’d give real money if he’d shut up! “ – Dr. McCoy : Star Trek VI
Captain Picard meet Captain Reynolds.
One of you is going to die today.
Muh ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ya know, I'm almost messed up enough to be a Fox TV Programming Executive.
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Battling evil and the right wing since 1964
I've read rumors that Bryan Singer is interested in doing a Trek film and I've seen Nicholas Meyer's name attached to the next one as well.
Singer is probably going to be tied up with Logan's Run for a couple of years and he may have another project in the pipe that would tie him up for the four years. If so, then what Stewart says makes complete sense.
I think 4 years MAY be a little too far away for Patrick Stewart to do anything but talky or bridge oriented scenes.
I don't know if any of these rumors are true, but if these guys actually work on the next one and got Patrick Stewart and Shatner back there is still hope for a great Trek film.
I have complete faith in Bryan Singer to pull it off...and we all know Nicholas Meyer's track record. If he's aboard, then you know the story and script will be great. That guy doesn't settle for less than excellent.
It CAN be done and done well depending on the quality of people behind the scenes.
It goes without saying Rick Berman's name should not be anywhere in the credits! I seem to have read something somewhere that Nick Meyer said he'd never work for Berman...some kind of issues there. Not sure. Maybe all parties concerned are also waiting for Berman's contract/Trek strings to Paramount to be severed as well.
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by which time I would only be able to sit in the captain's chair ...
Then maybe Picard in the movies, will finally be the same character as Picard in the series! This is good news.
And if the movie is still 4 years into the future, maybe it won't be based on Jendresen's gritty story about, whatever. The one that is supposed to finally break out of Star Trek's "anti-septic" worldview. Whatever that means. As I recall he said something about the lack of blood splattering in traditional Star Trek?
Well at least, we will have peace for a while. Hopefully there is no movie around the corner! Thank you. And for the record I'd rather see them experimenting on a smaller scale, with a miniseries.
Voldermort is right in saying that there should be some new characters. It has been 15 odd years since the Enterprise D/E crew first got together, it's not reality in saying that they will be together forever. In Nemesis we see Riker and Troi leaving the Enterprise-E to head the Titan. Maybe in the next movie we will see Geordi LaForge captaining the USS Challenger (VOY: Timeless), Riker and Troi onboard the Titan (Nemesis), Worf serving as the Federation ambassodor to Qo'noS (DS9: WYLB), Beverley at Starfleet Medical, and several advances in technology made as a result of the return of Voyager and 7of9's technological know how.
Having a movie featuring Kirk from an alternate universe and Jean Luc with the Enterprise-E crew would be the most appropriate way to some how incorporate all of the tv shows.
Just think... how about if the movie had Kirk from the mirror universe joining forces with a mixed lot of baddies launching a battle to destroy the Federation. Picard and the E-E could be called in to help negotiate the situation. Here we could be introduced to Picard's new first officer. Since Beverley Crushers departure maybe the Doctor could be the new chief doctor of the Enterprise and Wesley could be the Conn Officer
to BRING BACK KIRK!!! Stewart can have a guest role if he feels he's not in enough shape to be in the center chair anymore, but let's bring back the man! One more failure of a TNG movie is not going to revive Trek!
This seems to add more fuel to the fire regarding the rumor only a couple of weeks back that there was movement on ST 11 that would feature Kirk and Picard.
Is it simply coincedence that Patrick Stewart goes public only weeks after that rumor was floted out there?
From Patrick Stewart's statement we can infer that the prequel idea is dead.
There is a lot riding on this next Star Trek film. I think it is reasonable to assume that tptb want to invole their most popular characters in order to save the franchise.
I for one think there is some truth to the Picard/TNG crew vs Mirror Kirk rumor. It would be the biggest Trek yet.
Why wait three or four years?
All that talk a couple weeks back got me hoping to see Kirk in ST 11.
I mean they already killed Kirk anbd then Data so it is only logical that they go and put Picard in the grave.
I want a new good TNG film as much as the next guy, but I am extremely skeptical that anyone can pull it off.
TOS = six movies
TNG needs six movies and move on down the line through there. But I doubt we'll ever see a DS9 movie...wishful thinking...
I think that of all the actors associated with Star Trek, Patrick Stewart would be the best choice to star in another movie, even if the rest of the cast consists of new characters. Bringing back everyone else from TNG would be a mistake in my eyes. There just aren't really anymore stories left for them up on the big screen.
I sense that Paramount wants to shake things up, but not stray too far from what has already been established. I'm also assuming that the Erik Jendressen prequel script has now fallen by the wayside. Unless, of course, we get another movie dealing with time travel (groan).
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