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First off, all of us are reacting to a very short and factually anemic story. It's all essentially a 'word of mouth' report, as the actual SFX article states that they did not record Stewart's comments, so it is entirely possible that they either missed something or misunderstood what he said. Also, Stewart's statement "he revealed there've been lots of serious meetings lately about a new film, and there are money men who want it to happen" is entirely subjective. "...lots of serious meetings"... with whom? Paramount? SaveEnterprise? "...there are money men who want it to happen" could be anybody. Lastly, these are the words from an actor, not a studio rep.
Please understand that in no way, shape, or form do I disbelieve or distrust Stewart, nor do I question his character or integrity. I just can't get my hopes up over a very thin report.
All that said, the fact that he did come out and make these statements does bode well for Trek. We just have to -here it comes- wait and see what happens.
LLaP
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I would LOVE to see another TNG movie. I really would. I don't think they could do much worse and with the right story I think it would work.
I think bringing back Kirk would be fine and then sending off Riker in the Titan to start a new series. I think THAT would be awesome!
TNG forever!
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I know it's beating a dead horse, but the only way I can see a new Trek film garnering any mainstream interest while lining up all of us Trek fans (and former Trek fans who have essentially given up) is to bring back Kirk. And I mean really bring him back. Have Picard and Spock rescue him from the Nexus. Have the grand adventure they should have had in Generations. They'll also have to bring back Nick Meyer as writer and director. Maybe even ol' Ron Moore woulod be interested in salvaging the legend. Yeah, it's contrived and we've been there, done that with Trek III, but to my mind, as a Trak fan and an enthusiastic movie-goer, that scenario is the only way at this point to reinvigorate interest in the franchise. Bringing an entirely new cast and crew to the screen? I just can't see it working, even with the name Star Trek attached. That's no guarantee (see fate of Enterprise and Nemesis).
Story-wise, just stay away from baddie of the week. All of the TNG movies had some previously unseen evil overlord laughing maniacally and ruining everyone's day. It's like the writer's used Khan as the archetypical Trek villain and went hell bent for leather trying to copy that dynamic. No, we need something bigger, grander, more important. SOmething involving Q? We like Q, even if Voyager effectively neutered him. We like Romulans, even though Nemesis neutered them, too. We're a bit tired of Klingons and alien marauders from other quadrants. The new film must be instantly familiar. It must reside in the Trek universe. It's a 2 hour film, not a 24 hour long series. We don't have time to efefctively establish new characters or overarching themes. I mean, sure, eevry other (good) film can do this, but this film can't just be something that causes audience members to say to themselves as they walk out, "That was pretty good." It has to make them say out loud, "Star Trek is back."
this movie was a stepping stone for a new TV series with Captain Riker and the Titan crew?
The only way a new movie with *elements* of TNG or Classic Trek is going to work is if its a war film a la MIDWAY or THE LONGEST DAY with Picard in the role of an Admiral (the Henry Fonda role) not in a starship but in a room somewhere looking at intergalactic maps and making decisions. You could then have a fleet of ships with different TNG actors on them.
This would be a crossover film that spans several centuries a la GODFATHER II and tie it to the War motif, this way you could include cameos by many regular Star Trek actors (Kirk, Sisko etc).
You could have a Captain Kirk section and a Captain Picard section and go back and forth between both timelines.
Hollywood road show war films (LONGEST DAY, BRIDGE TOO FAR, etc) had dozens of characters running around doing their own thing personified by major stars. Some had major roles (John Wayne, Charlton Heston) and some had minor roles (James Coburn, Robert Wagner) but all brought star quality to the roles.
We've had murder-mystery/political (ST6), straight action/drama (ST II and III), comedy/adventure (ST IV) and horror/sci-fi (FIRST CONTACT).
We've never really had a STAR TREK war film.It would be an ensemble piece - neither Picard nor Kirk would be the main star.That way you could also throw in a new cast (or group of cadets) into the mix.
I wouldn't mind seeing another movie with Picard, but I think any attempt to reunite the TNG crew will be lame and contrived. I think if Picard is in the movie it should deal with the end of his career as a starship captain.
I think they should wait a while, two or three years maybe, until they are ready to do another series. Then maybe think about debuting the new TV cast in a movie, and continuing in the series a few months later. Berman said they might consider a movie with a new cast, so why not?
But enough with the TNG crew. And I seriously hope they don't try to bring back Brent Spiner as B4. That would be lame in the extreme.
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Start with a new team on this one, please.
Shatner and Stewart did have an excellent on screen chemistry. If Kirk is to be resurrected, he will need a familiar face to bounce off of (Nimoy says he's hung up the ears for good, Kelley and Doohan are no more, Takei doesn't like the guy, and no one really cared about Chapel, Chekov, or Rand. Tho an elderly Uhura might liven things up...).
However, Stewart has proven he doesn't need Trek in order to stay in the public eye. Has anyone considered the possibility that he may only be agreeing to appear in the next film if Picard dies a heroic death?
Or perhaps his function in the next film will be to pass the baton on to generation three?
I don't want anyone thinking from my earlier post that I'm against the idea of Picard and the rest of the TNG crew returning in a new movie. They're the future of the movie franchise, as far as I can see, at least for the near future. I just hope that whatever happens in the new movie results in the return of Kirk, even if he only makes an appearance in the final five or ten minutes, ala Darth Vader in Episode III. I love the TNG crew and seeing them in a movie produced by a non-Berman which also results in Kirk returning would be a dream come true. That would go a long way toward restoring my faith in the future of Star Trek and hopefully for many other alienated fans as well.
It's interesting to note (for us who hate Ricky "we're very pleased" Berman) that Patrick Stewart would not be available for 16 months... which puts filming of this possible film around March 2007 at the earliest. Berman's contract expires at the end of 2006, so it sounds like if there is a Star Trek XI in the works, it'll be without Berman (unless Paramount does something stupid like extending his contract) and will possibly have TNG crew. I really hope it is TNG without Berman's fingerprints all over it.
Now that I've thought about it, a huge big budget film, with TNG crew being pushed to their limits in an exciting and dramatic fashion might be exactly what Star Trek as a franchise needs. I don't mean some big space war movie, but a really epic scope kind of story, with huge dramatic implications for the various characters. TNG crew is an established crew, both in TV and movies. They could generate the kind of interest Star Trek needs, and with someone new behind the scenes, it might actually be a good film.
Guess we'll just continue to wait and see.
The fans don't want a prequel movie. We don't want a VOY movie. We don't want an ENT movie. We don't want a movie that has Berman's hands on it in any way.
We want a TNG movie, plain and simple. In many people's minds, FIRST CONTACT is second only to TWOK. Let's have another film in that vein, but get a director who knows Trek.
Thank god for this news today. TNG can't end with NEM ... it just can't. It is a dismal way for the TNG to end. Give us another TNG film paramount!
I'm very encouraged to read the latest news about Patrick Stewart's comments regarding a new Trek movie. Here's hoping that the "money men" have their way in this regard.
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For me, Star Trek jumped the shark as soon as Berman/Braga took over both the movie and television aspects of the franchise. TNG had just ended, the original crew and movie producers had been shunted aside, and all we had left was Berman-Trek. The only reason DS9 was still quality was because it managed to fly under Berman's radar. What was the first thing Berman/Braga did when they took over? They killed off an icon, Jim Kirk, who for many people personified Star Trek. Not only killed him off, but in the most utterly pointless, demeaning way possible, other than having him slip and hit his head in the bathtub. At that moment, Star Trek as it was ended for me. Apparently it ended for many other people around the same time. There's only one Star Trek movie that I'm interested in seeing, and that's bringing back Jim Kirk and correcting/apologizing for the huge kick in the face that was his death in Generations. Want to get back the good will of many former Star Trek fans Paramount? Admit you blew it and get Shatner for the next movie. By the way, this is my first post. Hello :)
Does anyone remember Stewart on one of those late night shows promoting Generations? He was talking about an idea he had with Carrie Fisher to make a movie combining both scifi franchises into one love story triangle between Picard, Leia, and Solo.
I don't know if this was British humour but he was dead serious.
Please let TNG and TREK rest. They had their chance and they fucked up. No thanks in part to Stewart and Spiner.
Four TNG movies now and I submit that this cast has yet to find their silver-screen legs. Don't get me wrong, I'd give anything to see them again, and I used to think that I new a good way to put them in a great movie. But now I'm not so sure. Does anybody have any good ideas about a story that they would like to see? I think it would be a nice change to see some constructive critical thinking on this forum rather than simply bashing the powers that be, of which I am just as guilty of doing. And although I enjoyed the book, The Return, I would like to hear some other ideas. Anyone?
This is interesting. Lots of $$$ and effort going into this project and the last word is that there's no new developments, from Berman not too long ago. What are they spending time and money on then? I am somewhat skeptical at this point since there is no consistentcy from anyone who talks on the subject. I don't think Stewart is lying or anything but I cannot believe that Paramount is going to risk another flop until, at least I hope until, Berman is gone.
To borrow an old phrase from Monty Python's Flying Circus...
"and now for something completely different."
To which I would add:
"make it so."
We need something new. It can be done... I guess we'll see.
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My gawd. Make up your mind people. Geesh.
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