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George Takei Comes Out of the Closet, Talks Homosexuality

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By GustavoLeao / 13:28, 28 October 2005 / People

Frontiers Online posted an exclusive interview with STAR TREK actor George Takei (Captain Sulu), in which he talks about his new play EQUUS, and decided to publicly acknowledge his homosexuality. Here are a few excerpts.



FRONTIERS: Let's talk about the character Dysart and the play, Equus. It's an amazingly meaty, compelling role, but was there anything personally that drew you to it?

GEORGE TAKEI: I first saw it in London at the National Theatre and I was blown away. I'm an anglophile. I visit England regularly, sometimes three or four times a year, at least once a year. I was roaming around England and I was in Leicester, subsequently, and I saw a small production there, with a different set of actors playing it; it still blew me away. And then I saw Anthony Hopkins in it.

Q: Wow.

Yes, I was so impressed by the play, and then I saw Tony Perkins [in the lead role]. I never did see Richard Burton play it on stage. And then finally, it was my Star Trek colleague Leonard Nimoy,who played Dysart on Broadway. And then I saw Burton's movie, and I was just so disappointed by that. And Burton's one of my heroes. My very first film that I got, while I was still a student at UCLA, I was seen in a theatre-arts department production by a casting director from Warner Brothers, plucked out of this student production, and put in my first feature film, starring Robert Ryan and Richard Burton [the film was Ice Palace]. It was two weeks on location in a small fishing village in Alaska and then two months back at the studio. Burton and I were a perfect fit, because here's this star-struck, stage-struck young actor, full of questions, and here's this legendary figure who loved to talk about himself. I would pose a question, and he would carry on, you know, holding court, and the assistant would come and say, 'Mr. Burton, we're ready for you on the set now,' and then he'd say, 'Hang on, George, hang on,' then go on the set and tear your heart out with a wonderfully performed scene, and when the director said, "Cut," he would come back...Now George, as I was telling you - I mean, it was amazing. And here I am now, playing the role that he played on Broadway and in the movie version. There's kind of a circularity about Dysart for me.

Q: What makes you want to come out, publicly?

You know, it's not really coming out, which suggests opening a door and stepping through. It's more like a long, long walk through what began as a narrow corridor that starts to widen. And then some doors are open and light comes in, and there are skylights and it widens. Brad's my partner, we've been together for 18 years. So, I've been "open," but I have not talked to the press. In that sense, maybe that's another opening of the corridor there.

Since this interview was coming up, I've been thinking on that. I've been thinking of my childhood. You know, I grew up in two American internment camps, and at that time I was very young. My memories of camp -- I was four years old to eight years old -- they're fond memories. We were first sent to a camp in Arkansas. I remember catching pollywogs and seeing them sprout legs, and then it snowed one winter in Arkansas, and for a Southern California kid, to discover snow was magical. Yes, I remember the barbed wire and the guard towers and the machine guns, but they became part of my normal landscape. What would be abnormal in normal times became my normality in camp. We had to line up three times a day, and take our meal in a noisy mess hall -- normal for me to go to school in a black tarpaper barracks, and I used to begin school every morning pledging allegiance to the flag, and I could see the barbed-wire fence out there, and the guard towers, saying, "With liberty and justice for all," without being aware of the irony of those words. But when we came out of camp, that's when I first realized that being in camp, that being Japanese-American, was something shameful. That camp was sort of like jail, and bad people go to jail. So, when you're eight, nine... I didn't want to talk about being in an internment camp. They would ask me, where was I? I would say I was far away... Arkansas. But I never went into details. And there's a sense of some shame being Japanese-American.

Q: I would imagine so, if you have to basically disavow or pretend away four years of your life just because of that fact.

And I can never forget that teacher, Mrs. Rugen -- I hated that woman. She would refer to me as "that little Jap boy," and that stung. But I didn't even tell my parents about it, at home, because I thought, you know, it would hurt them to know that there was a teacher that was calling me "little jap boy." So I just swallowed the pain. I mean, everytime she said that -- she wouldn't say it to me, but I would hear her talking to other people about "that little Jap boy." It stung. But I just swallowed it. And you grow up like that, feeling ashamed of who you are, and having to swallow pain like that. And then when you get this realization that you have a different focus in life, you know, that other boys are interesting to you -- I remember certain boys, you know, who when they would hunker down their pants would go up and I would see their ankles, and that was exciting. At that time, that was exciting, but then you start realizing, that's not 'normal.' And so you start kind of hiding that as well. So [there's] that duality -- of feeling ashamed because you're Japanese-American, and feeling like you're different because of your [homosexuality]. And then [as you grow older], with reading, and talking to other people, your understanding of the situation starts to grow. And you think, 'It's wrong, this [shame] is not right.' And you start sharing it with more people, and you find other friends and organizations. As a matter of fact, I met Brad through Front Runners [an L.A.-based gay running club]. I was a runner from my junior-high-school days. And at a bar, you see a paper, and you see a gay running club. 'Oh, I'll show up,' you think. People would see me and they were kind of astounded, but I ran with them, they saw that I'm George, not Sulu. So your frame of reference, your community broadens. And as I said, that corridor that was narrow becomes wider and brighter. And you start realizing that this is 'normal.' For me. There's a lot of talk of normality. Equus talks about this, too. The large popular normality is that rigid, constrained normality. But there's another natural normality. And you come to realize, 'This is who I am. And by gum, I'm not going to let it be a constraint!' In the same way that I'm not going to let the fact that I am a Japanese-American, who was unjustly incarcerated and grew up with that, be a constraint.

Tell me more about how you met Brad.

We were runners. He was an outstanding runner; he's stopped running now. He's done more than me; I've done six marathons. We'd train together. And we were with the Front Runners, and there would be a lot of Front Runners that were planning on doing a particular marathon, training together. And then, you know, we discovered that we had common interests in the theatre -- he was a journalist -- we'd go to plays together and, you know, things happen. [Laughs]

Are you out to your family and friends?

You know, I've not had a good experience with one sibling. And I won't be specific because it's still a problem. My mother, initially, had some adjustments to make, but she got to like Brad very much. She got Alzheimer's, and it got very difficult for her, so we moved her in with us. Brad was wonderful. He was a saint. It's very difficult when you're dealing with someone with Alzheimer's. And some of the stages were... horrific. And Brad helped throughout that. She was with us for the last four years of her life. And I owe so much to him.

The full interview can be found here


George Takei has an official website, and his autobiography TO THE STARS is available via Amazon in the U.S.A., Canada, the United Kingdom, and Deutschland.



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Takei Is Going To Add Poitical Voice | Report this post to moderator
By: LA70444 (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:41:01 on Nov 06, 2005

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Time to add his political voice
George Takei's public acknowledgment that he is gay is connected to a belief in speaking out about initiatives that would limit gay rights.
By Lynn Smith
Times Staff Writer

November 4, 2005

A few "Star Trek" fans were shocked by the official revelation that actor George Takei — aka Mr. Sulu — is gay. But most accepted the news with the respect for diversity that devotees say is the hallmark of the sci-fi series.

Takei, 68, revealed his homosexuality in the current issue of Frontiers, a biweekly Los Angeles magazine covering the gay and lesbian community. Takei said he and his partner of 18 years, Brad Altman, have been open about their relationship to friends and family for many years.

What prompted his recent disclosure to the media, he said, was Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's veto of a same-sex marriage bill in September.

"The world has really changed," Takei said. "We now have Time magazine doing a cover story on gay teens. Now that the movement is reaching this point, something unimaginable when I was a teenager, I think I have a responsibility to add my voice. I thought that it was time."

Takei likened his experience of coming out publicly to a walk down a long corridor: "At first, it's narrow and dark, then it starts to widen a bit, there are windows that let in some light, then doors that open that give you the prospect of a path to take."

It's an image that also reflects on Takei's early years. When he was a child and young teen, Takei's family was interned during World War II, with his relatives split between two U.S. camps.

For years after the war, he said he carried a public shame about being Japanese American and a private shame that came from knowing he was gay.

"When I was in the internment camp, I pledged allegiance to the flag," he recalled. "The words were 'liberty and justice for all.' I was too young to appreciate the irony of the sight of the barbed wire fence and the guard towers. But the irony of the words for me and for other gay people is penetrating."

Reaction on the Internet included shock and tasteless jokes, as well as praise and good wishes that Takei live long and prosper.

"He must have chosen that magazine called Frontiers as I guess it must have been the final frontier for him to come out," wrote one blogger on starwars .com.

Adam Malin, co-chief executive of Creation Entertainment, which produces the official "Star Trek" convention in Las Vegas every year, predicted that the overall fan reaction would be one of acceptance.

"People in the 'Star Trek' fan universe are extremely accepting…. We all love George." He added that the show's creator-producer, Gene Roddenberry, "certainly believed in accepting all kinds of gender orientation. He stated that clearly."

Takei said his role on the cult sci-fi hit "Star Trek" (NBC 1966-69) was one of the windows that let light in.

His character, Mr. Sulu, was part of an ethnically, racially and culturally diverse leadership team — an idea somewhat ahead of its time. "The idea of diversity as espoused by Gene Roddenberry was part of my broadening horizon," Takei said.

Currently, Takei is starring as Dr. Martin Dysart in the East West Players' revival of "Equus," at Los Angeles' David Henry Hwang Theater through Dec. 4.

In addition to acting, Takei has been active in politics. In 1973, the actor ran for the Los Angeles City Council and lost by a small margin. He was appointed by Mayor Tom Bradley to the board of directors of the Southern California Rapid Transit District the same year and was President Clinton's appointment to the board of the Japan-United States Friendship Commission. In 1986, Takei became the first Japanese American actor to have a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame.

Takei, who lives in Los Angeles, said he plans to continue speaking out against the various initiatives being proposed for the June ballot that would limit gay rights.

"This is a different kind of barbed wire fence," he said. "It would incarcerate a whole group of people in a different kind of internment camp."

In the Frontiers article, he called Schwarzenegger "a dangerous politician, in the same way that Strom Thurmond or other politicians who say one thing in order to try to curry a broad base of support, and then when push comes to shove, they act in a segregationist way." The governor's office declined to comment.


11.04.05 LA TIMES


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By: OV-101 (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:17:52 on Oct 31, 2005

I am sad to hear all the horror stories of George growing up. I can only imagine the pain of being teased because of his Japanese haritage. To compound the issue the feeling of being isolated as he tried to hide his sexuality. I am glad he is finally facing some of the demons and slaying them. I for one am not remotely gay but I want to give him my support and my best wishes. George is a great human being and deserves our support. Besides, I think he is an awsome Starship Captain.

Best wishes George!


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By: cgrest (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:32:17 on Oct 29, 2005

I would never have guessed. Then again, sexual preference for these people was never and will never be of concern to me. They are just good honest human beings.

This news does pose the question as to whether or not Paramount new of it before, and that was the reason they wouldn't go with a Captain Sulu TV Series. Im probably opening a bad can of worms with this, but it does make me curious. It would be a shame if they did not go for the series based on this.


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By: Schleprock (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:21:23 on Oct 29, 2005

Next thing you'll be telling me is that Tom Cruise and Rosie O'Donnell are gay too:))

When it's obvious, it's obvious. How could people not see it? I think Star Trek should have a gay captain, like that guy on Futurama, except not so Kirk-like.

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By: Mad Engineer (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:27:44 on Oct 29, 2005

Well...it seems that some of my friends knew about it. I didn't honestly. George, no matter what.

Your are Sulu, Captain Sulu...as long as you live.


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By: c.p. (Odo's file, contact) @ 23:13:27 on Oct 28, 2005 | Edit History (1)

Well, it's official. I have no gaydar. I'm very surprised.

As a gay man, and more importantly as a Star Trek fan, I am very moved. If I was a total flamer I'd just say, "YOU GO GIRL!" But that's not me, so in all seriousness I'd like to express my profound gratification that Mr. Takei finally feels comfortable enough to even mention publicly the person he loves.

Now, I'm sure he wouldn't want me to pass up this opportunity, so-- where's my soap box-- As with the late Paul Winfield, it's worth noting his relationship has far outlasted that of many of his co-stars or that of a great majority of the formerly married electorate of this country. This is something for Americans to remember the next time they're asked by politicians and "clergy" to invent arbitrary qualifications for Love. Straight, gay, or Harriet Miers, we're all just acting according to our God-given natures.

One thing's for sure. I'll never watch "The Naked Time" the same way again. YOU GO GIRL!


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Out of the kidney, out of the closet... | Report this post to moderator
By: TRexx (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:21:44 on Oct 28, 2005

Quote from George Takei:
I've been "open," but I have not talked to the press.


Well, George, this is one helluva way to upstage Shatner's kidney stone in the headlines. ;-)

Live long and prosper.


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By: admiral_qua (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:07:04 on Oct 28, 2005 | Edit History (1)

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By: admiral_qua (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:06:31 on Oct 28, 2005 | Edit History (1)

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By: cooper2000 (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:37:41 on Oct 28, 2005

I had heard the rumors for years. Glad he did it. Now if more actors would be brave enough to do it.
I remember hearing it from someone at a convention who knew him and said that he had been living with his Partner for years.


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By: CaptainCrashcup (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:17:35 on Oct 28, 2005

That's surprising news. Especially coming from someone who is 68 years old.


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