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By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:34:41 on Jul 04, 2005

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Berman killed Kirk later that year. His most insulting attack on TOS to date.

I saw Generations back in 1994 but I never really noticed that Kirk died. Not until I read it sometime last year on the net. But I remember how painful it was to watch the NCC1701-D crash. My favourite ship! But the truth is, I've gotten over it.

I respect that some fans are TOS fixated, just like I've grown up with TNG. But I don't understand why TOS characters would be more relevant for the finale episode of ENT. Correct me if I'm wrong but there was no holodeck in the TOS era, right? So it would change the premise of the final episode completely.

I consider the story in TATV a metaphor for the current situation with Star Trek. It wasn't really a Troi/Riker episode although they did steal our attention (not necessarely a lot of screen time, but our attention). I think the episode is more like a letter from B&B to the fans of ENT and I think, it makes it an intersting episode to try and decipher. Riker, Trip, Archer - is sort of speaking on behalf of B&B.

Of course, the finale episode could have turned out another way, but the most important thing is, it turned out well... (subjective opinion, I know)

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By: McCoy666 (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:59:24 on Jul 04, 2005

Quote: "The writers have a responsibility to get us put into the web of the historical context of the STAR TREK franchise in general, and so they are bringing 'Riker' [Jonathan Frakes] and 'Troi' [Marina Sirtis] back."

As opposed to Kirk or Spock. C'mon, surely there were better to tie this to the rest of the Trek universe. There was no tie here to the Star Trek franchise in general, only to Rick Berman's Star Trek.


Quote: "There's a holodeck story and 'Riker' wants to visit with our crew, kind of slip in behind the scenes, in a sense, and get to know 'Trip'. I'm flattered that the last episode is kind of about me. I'm also said it is the last episode."

This episode had nothing to do with you, Dude. It was all about Riker and Troi wasting time during an important mission of grave concern to Federation security interacting in a remake of a meaningless mission undertaken by your crew. Boy, when it was Barkely screwing around on the holodeck when it was time to work, Riker would chop him down. I honestly liked your character, but this had nothing to do with getting to know trip. And I'm sad too that this was the final episode, your character had so much potential that was thrown into the toilet.

Quote: "But I thinks ultimately, the responsibility that [executive producers] Rick [Berman] and Brannon [Braga] felt they needed to accomplish was to make a connection to the rest of TREK history and to bring [18 years of STAR TREK] full circle."

Again I ask: Why does "full circle" only include Trek that Berman was involved in? This should have somehow tied to the original series. And don't give me "Because they're all too old." Frakes and Sirtis both looked terrible! In no way was it beleivable that these two were supposed to be the same age as they were during TNG.

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