menuBarBack
blogging the final frontier since 1996        Beam Up News | Join | Your Account
Home
Advanced Search
boxBottom
News Tribblets
boxBottom
Stardates Calendar
Feature Story

Features

Reviews Ex Deus: "These Are The Voyages..." Ends It All

Features

By O. Deus / 12:45, 16 May 2005 / ENTERPRISE Reviews

Reviews Ex Deus

Title: "These Are The Voyages..."

Overall: 7.5
Performances: 7.5
Writing: 6.5
Direction: 7.5
FX & Prod Value: 8.5


Synopsis: Riker looks to the NX-01 Enterprise crew to help him make a decision as ENTERPRISE and STAR TREK itself comes to a close.

Review: It's been a long road getting from there to here. STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION was the second ST series revived when it seemed impossible. It was widely popular and highly-rated. ENTERPRISE is the last ST series; it is not remotely popular or highly-rated. The gap between them seems difficult to imagine and "These Are The Voyages...", no matter how well-meaning, finalizes the process by turning ENT into a footnote in a minor ST:TNG episode.

It is hard not to feel a sudden sense of joy and homecoming when the holodeck's yellow lines light up and Riker walks out of Enterprise and into the Enterprise-D corridor, and we feel as if we've never left. There is something homey and comforting about TNG, there always was. The spacious ship, the genial crew, the comfortably carpeted rooms. It's the place to come home to and at the end it's where ENT's producers came home to.

Blalock and others are right to feel cheated. "Voyages" is not an ENT episode, not in any meaningful sense. It might have been intriguing at any other point in the show's history, but as a finale it is a dismissal of ENT. The touching final seconds of the three ships, and what is undoubtedly the best and most moving part of the episode, suggest an equality that was never there. The original series and TNG were successes, whether for creative or commercial reasons, ENT is a failure. When Riker and Troi leave and the audience with them, before Archer begins his speech, it is meant to be a touching note that speaks of an unfinished series; but it carries a note of dismissal too. We go off with the TNG characters and leave ENT's behind. Indeed "Voyages" reduces ENT and its crew to nothing more than characters in a holodeck simulation whom Riker and Troi can switch on and off at will.

ENT deserved to end with a grand episode like "Twilight." It at the very least deserved a decent send-off and though "Voyages" attempts to suggest that this is about Enterprise's legacy, it is actually nothing of the kind. "Voyages" does a poor job of wrapping up anything about the Enterprise crew. Trip is killed by a clash with a gang of idiot robbers who board the ship. It's hard to imagine a sillier way to kill off a character. T'Pol does some of her best work in the episode unlocking her emotions, but even Archer and most of the rest of the crew have little to do and less to look forward to.

STAR TREK VI closed an era with peace with the Klingons, ST:TNG ended with the salvation of the universe and the reconceptualization of time, ST:DS9 ended with victory over the Dominion and Sisko's ascension, VOYAGER ended with a catastrophic battle with the Borg. But what does "Voyages" end with? A speech we never see? A Federation we are not even given the chance to see come into being? The culmination of Enterprise's journey is not a story about the building of the Federation; it is a story about fighting space bandits. Riker marching through a holographic recreation to get answers about duty and orders seems more like something VOY's Naomi Wildman might have done, accompanied by Tuvok.

Furthermore, the plot makes little to no sense. Archer complains about the cost of exploration that took Trip's life but it wasn't exploration that killed him; it was Archer using the Enterprise to intervene in a private criminal dispute. Riker goes to learn and decide whether his higher duty is to his Captain or to the Admiral and learns the value of personal loyalty from Trip's example but really did Riker need to wander through a holodeck simulation of the NX-01 to figure out personal loyalty to Captain Picard after all these years? More importantly is that Enterprise's legacy, not in its accomplishments, but in the personal loyalty of the crew to Archer? Was there any other ST series that this could not be said of?

All of ST's finales have been sad but they were leavened by crisis and confrontation and some transcendence. Captain Kirk sailing the Enterprise to the second star on the right after confronting his demons and ideals and emerging rejuvenated from them. Picard entering the room to play poker in order to solidify that bond with his crew for the future. Kira confronting her new role in running DS9. Voyager finally returning home to be greeted by a waiting fleet after Janeway has torn apart the future and the Borg for her crew. All of those had a clear message: this was worthwhile and this isn't over yet. "Voyages" struggles but fails to offer any such message. The crew can muster little but a sad apathy at the future. It is over and they know it and the writers know it and we know it too. Archer gives his speech and we live because it would be too hard to bear this final goodbye.

In "All Good Things...", which "Voyages" not so cleverly references, the future destroyed the past in a paradox that defied cause and effect. ENT too is a paradox, a show set in ST's past produced in the future. It has also completed the final task of destroying ST. Not because it was a thoroughly awful show -- ENT had brilliant and memorable episodes. But never enough. And so it goes out not with hope for the future but a sad resignation; not with a bang but a whimper.

STAR TREK, though, lives on. All things that live must die but ST has left behind a great legacy that continues to blossom today. When we look up at the stars and see Klingons, Vulcans, Romulans and Tholians among them, ST continues to dream on inside us. When we find our fingers drawing apart in a Vulcan greeting by force of habit, that too is the product of hundreds of hours of a TV show we watched, memorized and loved.

ST has had a great and noble legacy. The first space shuttle was named Enterprise. The shuttle fleet is being retired now to make way for a crew exploratory vehicle that will take us to the Moon and Mars and beyond. It will be Earth's first true spaceship. It seems somewhat appropriate that STAR TREK's death, the passing of a wonderful fictional series about space exploration, comes in the dawn of the birth of a new era of real space exploration here on earth.

If ST was a dream that fired men's souls to see the stars, to walk among strange new worlds; then perhaps we have woken from the dream and are moving closer to the reality. And when man does step foot for the first time on a foreign star, the engineers and scientists, the astronauts and visionaries whom ST inspired will have helped to make it happen. That is its true legacy and ours.

Next week: the Future...



More Top StoriesComments
Feb 09J.J. Abrams Will Not Direct Tom Cruise in Mission: Impossible IV6
Feb 09Book Review : Star Trek Inception1
Feb 09Exclusive : First Look at Artwork from Upcoming Original Series Comic Book from IDW1
Feb 09Phase II Fan Series "Origins" Features Prime Timeline Prequel Story of Young Kirk 6
Feb 08Exclusive : Scott Tipton on Writing Star Trek Comic Books for IDW and Much More0
Story Archives...Browse:   
Recent Reviews
May 8These Are The Voyages...62
May 8Demons50
Apr 18Bound81
Feb 28Divergence15
Feb 21Affliction22
More Reviews...
ENTERPRISE Mission Schedule | Logs by Season: 1 2 3 4
Episode Number Title Airdate

Talkback

64 comments Post New | Help
View:

Thank You, O. Deus | Report this post to moderator
By: Klytus (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:04:55 on May 26, 2005

Your contributions in both the commentary of episodes and your posts when you used to visit here were inciting and always showed some forethought on your part.

Perhaps, in the not to distant future when Paramount has purged itself of the Berman era of Star Trek, there will actually be a new Star Trek to see and Trek Web can look forward to you adding your thoughts to the situation once again.



Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.

J. R. R. Tolkien (1892–1973), British novelist, scholar. The dwarf Gimli, in The Fellowship of the Ring, pt. 1, ch. 3, The Lord of the Rings, bk. 2 of trilogy (1954).


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

Almost from Gene himself | Report this post to moderator
By: crow4040 (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:29:12 on May 23, 2005

At times the words in this review almost started to sound like they were coming straight from Mr. Roddenberry himself from the great beyond. I would believe that once humans get into space and start expanding and building colonies that science fiction like Star Trek won't be necessary. We will still want entertainment, yes, but I agree there will come a time when it is more important to start looking to reality.

I enjoy watching the inhabitants of the ISS bounce around the station every day even though its mostly news about hum-drum experiments about water droplets and moss. I just keep on believing that the new crew exploration vessel will come to fruition and that we will finally get back to the Moon and move on to Mars. Hopefully the youngest generation now will use Star Trek as their influence to be the one to step foot on Mars twenty to thirty years from now.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

Thanks, Deus | Report this post to moderator
By: matt_j (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:28:51 on May 18, 2005

Your reviews have been great. Yes, many were negative, but true. I'm not a rediculously defensive fan of ENT. The fourth season wanted to be better, but they went about it the wrong way. Even I was too gullible to think that Coto would be a saviot. The third season was okay (particularly toward the end), except for the T'Pol thing.

TATV: If ENT was continuing and Trip hadn't died so pathetically, it would have been an okay episode.

In TATV and Terra Prime, I was really enjoying T'Pol. She didn't seem to suck as much anymore. She seemed a little more respectable and lovable, not just a sex symbol. So much could have been done with her. I never really liked the Seven of Nine character - although her Borg technology did save the day more than once.

If I get the time, I may start reading Trek novels. If they're good, why didn't Paramount hire people like the authors? Wasn't TNG's "Disaster" written by some different people than usual?

ENT's season 4 seemed to want to improve the fan's appreciation of the show by making references to material already existing in the Trek universe, rather than thinking up something new. I've heard people say "Why haven't we heard of the Xindi already". Did we really need to? Also, we'd even see notable Trek actors brought back - like Spiner. We almost had Shatner. The only episode that ever had me interested at all was Observer Effect. I thought it would be a rip-off of Scientific Method, but it wasn't. This episode tried to feed the continuity dogs, but it succeeded in being good, unlike the others.

Like the Canadian government, I think Trek needs a break and some truly new blood - people who love and respect the Trek universe, but also know how to write insteresting stories.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

Loved the eps | Report this post to moderator
By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:08:24 on May 18, 2005

It actually doesn't matter what others say. If I like an episode, then its a good episode. I loved "these are the voyages..."


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

;-) | Report this post to moderator
By: FastFashion (Odo's file, contact) @ 01:15:37 on May 18, 2005 | Edit History (1)

It's interesting that these past few years have been more marked by interesting fan comments and arguments and discussions than interesting Enterprise episodes. The Paramount assembly line took a concept I loved (and still do) and turned into into a mediocre, formulaic POS with crappy uniforms, bad theme music, Vulcans that didn't fit in any relation to TOS, boring scripts... Good riddance to the current writing staff, in a few years something good will come of this.

Goodnight, Mrs. Kalabash, wherever you are.

Ad astra per aspera. Next stop, Mars.


Dana Curtis Kincaid

--------

DC Kincaid
1-800-CYT-FLUFF
angel2285@hotmail.com


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: ;-) by hiikeeba @ 19:49:34 on May 18
RE: ;-) by katefan @ 13:01:45 on May 18

THANKS | Report this post to moderator
By: Locutus (Odo's file, contact) @ 00:40:44 on May 18, 2005

Still waiting for that review of "In a Mirror Darkly" ...

;-)

Seriously, I have really enjoyed reading your reviews over the years. While I most certainly have not agreed at times, they are always thoughtful and allow me to ponder yet another wonderfully intelligent perspective on the Star Trek franchise.

I hope that Star Trek is not dead. I hope that in the years to come, I will be returning to this place to read your reviews again and enjoy/despise yet another addition to one of the greatest mythos Science Fiction has yet conceived. But my faith wanes after this dismal conclusion.





--------

I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been is over. From this time forward, you service us.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: THANKS by O. Deus @ 19:00:52 on May 18

Thanks Deus | Report this post to moderator
By: SkyGuy (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:16:49 on May 17, 2005

Thanks, Deus, for the thoughtful insighful reviews you've turned in over the years. You've done great service to the Trek community, and I wish you Godspeed with your future endeavors.

Indeed, there is hardly a satisfied fan anywhere in Trekdom. Even the loyal B&B drones are bashing them here at the end. As the finale episode was a classic, Berman-esque anticlimax, so was the entire ENT series -- ill-conceived, hastily thrown together and amateurishly executed at every turn. Trek truly died with a whimper.

The new test of Trek will be the same as the old test -- how will Trek survive in reruns. Will history repeat? Will there be wildfire clamoring for Trek as there was in '70 through '72? I personally doubt it. There's much more other stuff on TV to watch these days. And the same stupid studio is still mismanaging the Trek franchise (Desilu, we need you now!)

Star Trek was a phenom of the last third of the 20th century. Now is the time to look ahead to a new 21st century without Star Trek. Life WILL go on!

--------

Image



GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show!.... You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! -- William Shatner on Saturday Night Live (1986)


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Thanks Deus by O. Deus @ 22:38:10 on May 17

Live long and prosper | Report this post to moderator
By: Peacekeeper (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:49:34 on May 17, 2005 | Edit History (1)

Well O. Dues. Your reviews mostly have been on spot and thanks for all the years and series you went through reviewing for us.
You are 100% on this review. The finale was APPALING in one word. I have never seen such a watered down, mundane and simplistic series finale to date. It looks like they ran out of budget as well as any more desire to work on the series. This episode felt nothing more than a long-lost filler TNG episode...nothing more or less. You can see the tired faces of both Trip and T'pol to see how humiliated and sorry enterprise cast was feeling. Its sad to see star trek and enterprise go with such a whimper.
B&B needs to now move on for good and destroy some other well-known franchise. I hope they never rest in peace knowing that they have destroyed completely what was once a mighty pinnacle of sci-fi...Star Trek


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Live long and prosper by O. Deus @ 22:40:53 on May 17

Thanks for the reviews | Report this post to moderator
By: psp1 (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:57:18 on May 17, 2005

Thanks for your reviews. You were one of the few voices of sanity and reason.

The finale was a disgrace and an embarassment. I cannot believe what a mess B&B made out of this. It seems like all the ST fans that wanted to see a finale about ENT and their crew were ignored to mollycoddle the TNG fans.

Hard as it is for B&B to believe, there are plenty of Trek fans who did not think much of TNG. I had a tough time viewing it as anything more than a bunch of social workers in space doing the 'right thing' all the time. Although there were a handful of excellent episodes, I can't say I was really interested in any of the characters.

Setting aside my feelings about TNG, it is totally inappropriate to inject another series as the primary story mechanism into an ENT finale. If this were a holographic recreation from DS9 with Sisko and Odo, I would have the same objection (I thought DS9 was terrific, the most realistic and gritty portrayal of what a future Federation might really be like. No cardboard cutout heroes there). Or if they brought Shatner back and he dominated the series. That would have been obnoxious as well.

This was a final slap in the face. No matter how unpopular the show, the characters should have been allowed to leave with dignity intact- not as props in the 'great' TNG show. The right thing to do was to write a complete 2 hour ENT finale, with possibly a couple of cameo appearances as a true valentine to the fans.

As it stands now, this is not a valentine. It's the stuff that the flowers grow in to make up a valentine bouquet.



--------

psp1


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Thanks for the reviews by O. Deus @ 22:42:55 on May 17

Decanonize now! | Report this post to moderator
By: Hepkat (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:08:13 on May 16, 2005 | Edit History (1)

Like I said in my thread posted yesterday, we need to completely decanonize Enterprise. B&B clearly have no respect for our intelligence, therefore we don't have to accept their writing.

Decanonize now!


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Decanonize now! by O. Deus @ 22:42:08 on May 16

Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? | Report this post to moderator
By: timmer33 (Odo's file, contact) @ 18:08:23 on May 16, 2005

"STAR TREK, though, lives on. All things that live must die but ST has left behind a great legacy that continues to blossom today. When we look up at the stars and see Klingons, Vulcans, Romulans and Tholians among them, ST continues to dream on inside us. When we find our fingers drawing apart in a Vulcan greeting by force of habit, that too is the product of hundreds of hours of a TV show we watched, memorized and loved."

Jeez. You helped kill the show, Deus. Your constantly negative reviews were placed above all others as the "official" review of TrekWeb - a site that Paramount execs and ST execs frequently visit. You talk about some noble show that will continue forever ... too bad you helped kill it. I agree the finale wasn't great, but at least I'm not nitpicking or focussing on the negative, which you always did.

The single bright spot about the end of Trek is that your inane reviews are done. Period.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Bella Oxmyx @ 20:10:40 on May 16
    RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by timmer33 @ 20:18:47 on May 16
       RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Spot @ 00:02:47 on May 18
       RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Bella Oxmyx @ 22:29:37 on May 16
       RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by vich @ 22:02:43 on May 16
       RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Steve Krutzler @ 21:25:12 on May 16
          RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Chewie @ 14:21:28 on May 17
             RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by Bella Oxmyx @ 17:02:26 on May 17
                RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by O. Deus @ 22:47:10 on May 17
RE: Another brutal review. Why should we be surprised? by O. Deus @ 18:24:06 on May 16

Thanks for your reviews... | Report this post to moderator
By: NAFF (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:37:59 on May 16, 2005

... they were usually on the money.

As was this one.

Even the Action Figure Brigade haven't supported tbis monstrosity of an episode.

I wish Riker could have done 'end program' 97 episodes earlier...


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Thanks for your reviews... by O. Deus @ 18:25:57 on May 16

..excuse me... | Report this post to moderator
By: Sabotman (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:40:57 on May 16, 2005

I agree w/ most of what you have to say.
Enterprise does go out as a footnote in TNG lore.
My only disagreance is w/ the Voyager referance.
We watched for 7yrs as the show got worse & worse.
The final episode was more of the same crap.
Suddenly 2 characters can't live w/o each other when only the episode before they were stranded on a planet & we saw as much sexual tenson as a wall.
I wont bother going through everything wrong w/ End Game [try going to firsttvdrama.com for a bigger thrashing], but the very last scene was the worst.
Voyager finally home [no tension in the last few minutes anyways], we pan toward Earth...QUICK FADE TO BLACK! PUT B&B's NAMES UP THERE!!
As it is I can barly watch Voyager any more [which is sad considering how often I'll sit through a TOS rerun].


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: ..excuse me... by O. Deus @ 18:28:11 on May 16

Finally a review that's accurate... | Report this post to moderator
By: luckybucky (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:30:42 on May 16, 2005

You know, O. Deus finally wrote a review I could connect with. Too bad it's the last bloody thing he'll get to write about Star Trek for a long while.

--------

"Aha! Advancing on me only brings you closer to the cold wrath that is my spork!" - Bucky the Katt


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Finally a review that's accurate... by O. Deus @ 18:29:48 on May 16

Terrible ending to a series that was just finding it's voice... | Report this post to moderator
By: vich (Odo's file, contact) @ 16:10:43 on May 16, 2005

My review here:

The Appalling End of Star Trek: Enterprise

Vic


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

One good thing... | Report this post to moderator
By: mlsmithjr (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:51:30 on May 16, 2005

I'm glad Enterprise is gone for only one single reason -- to save everyone from these pompous reviews.

Not that I disagree with the sad assessment of TATV, but the article reads like a bitter review from a fat balding man in a smoking jacket with a huge cigar, and a glass of port in the other hand pretending to be some literary genius.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: One good thing... by O. Deus @ 18:31:11 on May 16
    RE: One good thing... by TRexx @ 12:02:41 on May 17

Seeya round, Deus | Report this post to moderator
By: Bucky (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:18:54 on May 16, 2005

Assuming you don't do a "Terra Prime" review, its been a blast reading your reviews for the past few years. Have a good one.

--------

An elephant never forgets . . .TO KILL!


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Seeya round, Deus by O. Deus @ 18:32:50 on May 16
    RE: Seeya round, Deus by steveleenow @ 02:44:29 on May 17
       RE: Seeya round, Deus by O. Deus @ 05:51:21 on May 17

The Future | Report this post to moderator
By: JohntheGay (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:40:11 on May 16, 2005

Maybe he is correct in his thinking that it is time for Star Trek to die. The future is on its way, and if Science Fiction is going to go on it needs to progress as well. As he said in his Demons review, Enterprise was too close to modern times to be truely inspired Star Trek. We Trekkies have always yearned for the unknown, which Enterprise struggled to provide with their temporal and dimensional incursions... Goodbye Star Trek... maybe we just outgrew you... or the world outpaced you.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: The Future by O. Deus @ 18:34:26 on May 16

Terra Prime: The Real ENT Finale | Report this post to moderator
By: El4short (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 13:37:41 on May 16, 2005

I agree with Deus' great review but I'm sorry there's nothing about "Terra Prime" (especially after the trashing he gave "Demons," some of which I think was unfair and overboard). As far as I'm concerned, "Terra Prime" was Enterprise's true finale. It was excellent, complete with wonderful character moments and acting, the stirring speech that we never got in "Voyages," and a lot of emotion among the ENT family that had me completely choked up at the end. I'm going to watch it again as soon as I can.

"These are the Voyages..." wasn't as bad as I expected, and it really was nice to see Riker, Troi and the Enterprise D, but I agree, it was just bland. A rescue mission for Shran? He's a great character, but I expected to see him at the Federation ceremony, not hiding out like some lame "Rockford Files" con artist. Alien gangsters? Perhaps it's logical that Riker wouldn't watch the aftermath of Trip's death, but those of us who have been with this show for 4 years, WE needed to see the crew's goodbye. It was a cheat, just like shutting off the holodeck before Archer's speech.

There were some nice moments here and there -- I did like Archer and T'Pol's hug at the end, and the final montage of Enterprises was VERY well done. But everytime Riker and Troi popped up amid the ENT crew, it just left me flat. It's a shame that the final episode couldn't have simply been a standalone "Enterprise" story 6 years in the future without the TNG framing device.

Just for the record, I'm an ENT fan who watched the first 2 seasons mostly out of loyalty, perked up when Season 3 showed big improvements, and finally got excited to be a fan again with Season 4. This was a sad weekend ... but at least "Terra Prime" gave the show and its cast the proper finale that it deserved.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Terra Prime: The Real ENT Finale by O. Deus @ 18:35:56 on May 16

Yes | Report this post to moderator
By: Akita1999 (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:23:23 on May 16, 2005

I felt the same way. I thought the final three episodes of Enterprise were terrible. I am so sorry and disappointed to see Trek go out this way. Perhaps the future will bring something wonderful and regenerate the franchise and its legacy.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: Yes by O. Deus @ 18:37:29 on May 16

Yes | Report this post to moderator
By: Akita1999 (Odo's file, contact) @ 13:22:41 on May 16, 2005 | Edit History (2)

Sorry double post.


Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote

lol | Report this post to moderator
By: EntFan! (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:53:06 on May 16, 2005

I love how he only focuses on the negative, where were you for "In a Mirror Darkly"? Couldn't find anything wrong with it so you didn't post on it....yeesh...

--------

"Whose gonna watch Girls Who Love Girls Who Love Ghandi!"

--Hollow Men



"I didn't want to be drunk in pub-lic, these assholes threw me out into pub-lic, I want to be drunk in a bar...arrest them!"

-Ron White



"They call me....Darth Tater!!!"

-Ron White starring in"Star Wars Episode Three (And One Quarter): Revenge Of The Hicks"



ULTIMATE PROOF WHY NO FAN SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF STAR TREK




Reply
Reply
Quote
Quote
RE: lol by O. Deus @ 18:38:00 on May 16
RE: lol by cooper2000 @ 13:05:15 on May 16
    RE: lol by EntFan! @ 15:17:54 on May 16
       RE: lol by Bella Oxmyx @ 19:57:59 on May 16
          RE: lol by EntFan! @ 22:36:10 on May 16
             RE: lol by O. Deus @ 22:50:47 on May 17
For once I agree with O. Deus by MoulinRouge @ 13:04:35 on May 16
    RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by O. Deus @ 18:42:49 on May 16
    RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by EntFan! @ 15:21:50 on May 16
       RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by Chigliak @ 16:52:49 on May 17
          RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by EntFan! @ 20:07:15 on May 17
       RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by O. Deus @ 18:39:17 on May 16
       RE: For once I agree with O. Deus by O. Deus @ 18:39:17 on May 16
Promenade










TrekWeb Merchants
Amazon.com
Amazon.co.uk
Amazon.ca
Amazon.de
Barnes & Noble

Get Firefox!
Privacy Policy | About Us | Legal Notice | Contact Us | | Get Firefox!
© 1996-2010 TrekWeb.com and Steve Krutzler. All rights reserved.