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By: c.p. (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:32:09 on Feb 01, 2005

I just want to take this opportunity to agree with Mr. Spiner and voice my appreciation and congratulations to the ENTERPRISE cast and crew for turning the ship around. I haven't held back too much in the past when I've been critical of the show and I want to be equally vocal in my praise. This season has been really good. I was afraid all the scrambling would just lead to a series of plot gimmicks and guest stars designed as a last ditch effort to drum up fan interest without anything deeper. But instead they've handled it creatively and with some panache. The dialogue has been improved a lot too, especially what they wrote for Spiner's character.

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Gene-o-vision | Report this post to moderator
By: cgrest (Odo's file, contact) @ 09:01:47 on Jan 30, 2005

I think the greatest thing about Gene's vision, and that of Star Trek, is that it's always expanding and changing, but the core is still the same.

Take TOS for example. Kirk, Spock and McCoy had this great relationship together. The show centered around that trio. And the show was fabulously written around that relationship.

Now TNG evolved around a more quiet, withdrawn Captain. But it was the rest of the crew that had relationships with each other. Picard still had this, but not to the same extent as Kirk did with Spock and McCoy.

So I get the feeling B&B just don't have what it takes to harness the Trek vision, and expand on that.

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I want to like this man, I really do | Report this post to moderator
By: spacebeluga (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:23:29 on Jan 30, 2005 | (1)

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I think ENTERPRISE has hit its stride. That's something they need to be given credit for, because it takes a while to shake down. It wasn't so easy for us either. I think they have finally found their footing, and it just took a while to get it together.

The Next Generation was putting out some pretty good shows by season 2, and was a great and solid series by season 3. If Enterprise is finally good now, it's only by season 4; 3 whole years after its premier. And in any case, this argument isn't very good, considering TOS and DS9 were both great from the beginning (DS9 only became more accessable later on).

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Do you think mixing the crews from the five shows is a good idea ?

Spiner : I think it is a decent idea.

Please stop harming your credibility.

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You knew Gene Roddenberry well, Do you think he would be happy with what STAR TREK has become today ?

Spiner : For the most part, I think he would be happy with it. And I will tell you why : I can't tell you the numbers of times when we were doing the films that we wanted to do something and Rick Berman responded, "You know, that's really not Roddenberry, That's really not his vision of this, and I don't want to cross that line."

If Rick Berman actually understood Gene's "vision," then maybe this would be a useful statement. But it is clear that Berman doesn't know what he's doing. All he does is faithfully and blindly follow a set of guidelines that he can't understand. If he actually stopped and thought about just what Gene's vision is, then maybe he'd realize that it's against Gene's vision to allow Star Trek to become a silly contrived and meaningless action show with plots derivative of times when Star Trek was actually good. Since he doesn't understand this, he is content to follow pointless rules, such as the one Ron Moore described about not allowing Spock's name to be mentioned in the TNG episode "Sarek," the fact that he still talks about "Gene's vision" merely shows how ignorant he is.

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People who say Rick has forgotten Gene's vision and tried to create his own STAR TREK are way off base.

He didn't try to, it's just what happened. I'm not among the group of people who claim there's some sort of evil plot because Berman "hates Star Trek."

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By: StarFleet Captain (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 04:53:53 on Jan 30, 2005

As much as I dislike Rick Berman for running Trek into the ground, I have to say that much of post Roddenberry Trek with the exception of DS9 stayed true to Roddenberry's vision of a more perfect Humanity and using other Aliens to portray humanity's faults and characteristics. The problem is that people grew tired of this method of storytelling, and ol B&B did not realize this until it was to late

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