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By: Postdoc (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:50:36 on Dec 21, 2004

TOS Characters interpreted in post TOS Trek

Captain Kirk-- a shoot by the pants cowboy responsible for destroying Starfleet in the Mirror Universe (which as a brutal dictatorship it deserved) and selfish old coot in the Nexus (Picard's first thoughts) although he dies unnecessarily (because Picard could have left the Nemesis (Sorry, Freudian slip there) sooner. Dies.

Mr. Spock -- troublesome ambassador causing trouble for Picard and crew.

Sarek-- Dottering, senile old fool unable to understand his prime years are gone. Dies.

Mr. Scott -- seen as a dottering old fool at first, saves the day, becomes space hobo (highly educated).

Kang, Kor, Koloth-- one of these three becomes a dishonorable warrior, dies. I think, DS9 fans. I have much more appreciation for DS9 these days though.


Vulcans-- once highly ethical, logical, unemotional race. Now seen as highly unethical, abusive of controlled substances, and warlike in the extreme.

Zefrem Cochrane-- In Metamorphosis, a dedicated, intense, almost monastic hero devoted to his life's work. In Generations, a selfish drunk who does somehow find resources to construct warp drive on a post holocaust Earth where bare essentials are in short supply.

The Andorians -- an erudite, crafty group of aliens well versed in galactic diplomacy. Thelev was a spy. Now, a bombastic, super aggressive warlike species, evincing a 2oth century bigotry by constantly calling humans "pink skins."

To come now, The Organians-- super beings of near godlike power, totally committed to non violence. Now, most likely insentive, over powerful light wisps, unsympathetic to the plight of humankind.

Please don't bring Kirk into this.

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By: sid (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:54:42 on Dec 21, 2004 | (1)

(oops slipped up on the reply button: this is in reply to J-Dax's commment)
You're probably right that I jumped to the wrong conclusion regarding the Organians being the source of the virus. For beings who are millions of years ahead of us on the evolutionary scale and who can simultaneously be on Earth, Organia, and "the Klingon homeworld" negotiating a peace treaty, their presence, timing, and interest for the above episode represent a slight stretch, but as I said above I'm looking forward to the episode despite all this.

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By: sid (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:55:55 on Dec 20, 2004

One thing that was constant throughout Errand of Mercy was the Organians hatred of violence. According to the above, they expect some or all humans to die from their experiment. That does not sound like Organians (and don't give me BS that their culture could have changed radically in 100 years). As usual, I'll put aside stuff like this and try to enjoy the episode on its merits.

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By: SkyGuy (Odo's file, contact) @ 11:31:00 on Dec 20, 2004

It would be nice if, at some point in time, some Trek series would provide some connective tissue between all the "superior beings" introduced in the history of Trek -- the Organians, the Q, the Metrones and whoever else. It seems unlikely that the Feds would encounter these races but that they would be unknown to each other. Perhaps they have a common origin, or perhaps they are the hyperevolved descendents of the early species of the galaxy, like the Preservers or the proto-humaniod race in that one TNG ep.

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By: Faxanadu (Odo's file, contact) @ 06:43:30 on Dec 20, 2004

As soon as this episode was made, people were whining and moaning that it was a filler episode. Well, it really isn't a filler after all, since we are now talking about the real deal here.

And just because Organians were shown on TOS does not mean it was the FIRST time we have ran in to them. Either Archer and Co. never learn the true name or they do and Kirk just never remembered them or never looked them up before.

Not much of a continuity issue.

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